Start working towards getting organic visitors is what I suggest.
My consistent $100/day method Noob friendly Grey hat
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dietbird
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- Nov 3, 2009
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OK, guys, I have a question for you. How do you deal with returning visitors? I have like 70% returning visitors today. I know I haven't worked much on promotion, just utube spamming.
The problem is, when I have that much returning visitors, when they fill my offers, I don't get credit for them. So, what should I do, change the offers (I'm already rotating 5 offers) or try and promote more so the percentage of returning visitors decreases?
The problem is, when I have that much returning visitors, when they fill my offers, I don't get credit for them. So, what should I do, change the offers (I'm already rotating 5 offers) or try and promote more so the percentage of returning visitors decreases?
This is what I'm having trouble with.
You have two options here:
1. Return visitors are good so try to monetize them some other way. If you put up more offers, your % of returning visitors will decrease dramatically since people don't want want to fill out offers more than once.
2. Keep changing the offers and reduce the access time to your site. So if someone completes an offer, they only have access for 24 or 48 hours until the gateway pops up again.
I've experimented with both and #2 works better for me. Even though most people won't come back, you will still have a few that will keep completing offers if they know the actual content is there, which will bring in quite a few extra $$.
I've gotten A LOT of PMs over the last few weeks. I've tried answering most of them but now I'm busy and they are getting really repetitive. So I'm posting some common questions in here with my answers for everyone to see. Enjoy!
** For everyone asking me for my exact sources of traffic, Sorry but I can't reveal that. I need to keep some information for myself or else my exact methods would get very saturated. The groundwork is here, so put your head to this and spin it.
I'm currently using Wordpress and it's very easy to create a gateway on different posts. I'm not really familiar with other kind of sites but I'm sure it's possible. The number of videos on your sites is endless. More video = more $$$!
Read this thread: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/cpa/37204-fake-referrer-cpa.html
I'm not sure what people don't understand. I find all my links on Sidereel. Sure some are dead, but there are also a lot of live ones.
The best offers are the simple one-field ZIP or E-mail submit. Those work the best for US traffic. For international traffic, there are some 2 page submits. Pretty much every single network has them
Currently doing 50/50. WH with CPAL3ad and BH with other networks. I need some guaranteed money each month!
** For everyone asking me for my exact sources of traffic, Sorry but I can't reveal that. I need to keep some information for myself or else my exact methods would get very saturated. The groundwork is here, so put your head to this and spin it.
dietbird
Junior Member
- Nov 3, 2009
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Well, I'm currently giving them 48 hrs before the gateway pops up again. But what I'm most concerned about is this: Inevitably, a user will complete the same offer twice. When that happens, won't the advertiser suspect something? The same IP filling the same offer again? It's totally pointless, in the normal way of things.
If you've worked a way around that, feel free to share.
And, #1 would only work if I have some other way of monetizing the returning visitors (which are currently 70% of my site traffic) like adwords or something, but I can't put adwords or chitka on my site, and the others are simply not worth it.
The only possible alternative is private advertising, but I'm getting way ahead of myself.
Anyways, thanks for the useful post, craigs!
THUNDERELVI
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- Sep 12, 2009
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I think there is a script that can record/check the IP of a visitor on a database and then deliver results based on it's IP Location(Geo-Targeting) and also filter results, which means you can choose not to display the same offer twice to the visitor,but a different one!
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm not a programmer, but I remember I've read this somewhere, or maybe it was about CS
Anyway, you need to ask a programmer or go to GAF and buy a custom made script.
Any programmer here on BHW can answer this question plz? I also need to know that...
And mate, how do you get returning visitors????
Most of my visitors(95% of them) don't get back, although I update the website with the latest movies and also give them a chance to download the movie, make them subscribe to RSS Feeds,etc... It's like I shoot them in the head lol
, they go and never look back.You mind sharing a few tips with us?
shaqsquash
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- Nov 17, 2007
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This is a solid method. Certain networks you can bank enormously off of. I got EPC of like .75 cents per click off of perfecttracking but their support was absolute crap.
Also note you can build one of these websites and later slip them on digitalpoint and flippa for about 2-3 months revenue so thats a nice added bonus. I would suggest you stay in smaller niches and try to get SEO traffic long term.
Also note you can build one of these websites and later slip them on digitalpoint and flippa for about 2-3 months revenue so thats a nice added bonus. I would suggest you stay in smaller niches and try to get SEO traffic long term.
birddogswife
Newbie
- Dec 3, 2009
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I am new, but why would I fill out a survey or something to watch a show that I can watch for free from the network website? Did your post and method just go over my head?? Crap, enlighten me please. Does anyone have any suggestions on where to go to learn how this works? I have spent several hours reading the whole thread and I am more confused now then when I entered this thread! Help
dietbird
Junior Member
- Nov 3, 2009
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And mate, how do you get returning visitors????
Most of my visitors(95% of them) don't get back, although I update the website with the latest movies and also give them a chance to download the movie, make them subscribe to RSS Feeds,etc... It's like I shoot them in the head lol
You mind sharing a few tips with us?
Beats me. I don't even have download links, lol. Maybe I should add dl links too. Somewhere down the line I remember I thought about it but decided it's a bad idea or something. Or maybe I was lazy, I don't know
Anyhow, I don't do anything special. Just add the latest movies and TV Shows, just like you do.
Btw, I haven't thought about the IP Filtering in such a way. It's really clever, props for that.
THUNDERELVI
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Beats me. I don't even have download links, lol. Maybe I should add dl links too. Somewhere down the line I remember I thought about it but decided it's a bad idea or something. Or maybe I was lazy, I don't know
Anyhow, I don't do anything special. Just add the latest movies and TV Shows, just like you do.
Btw, I haven't thought about the IP Filtering in such a way. It's really clever, props for that.
Yeah, it's a bad idea, because you'll get in trouble for copyright laws for distributing movies, but since I'm hosting my website in an offshore server and I'm NOT in US, I don't really care and this is BHW after all.
Warez and Torrent sites have been doing this for years and TPB is still standing. They won't catch a fish like me, when there are sharks in the sea right?
Anyway I double my money sometimes for giving dl links to my visitors, because I protect them with adscendmedia new file gateway so they must fill another offer to get the movie. This is perfect in addition to content gateway...
And as for the script, I found a thread here on BHW 2 days ago(sorry can't remember it) and someone was asking how to do Geo-Targeting. A fellow here recommended Kblinker.com as a solution. I checked it out and it was a good script, but I can't figure out if it does what you're looking for. It does filter IP-s based on Location or Referer or IP/Hostname and I think it delivers different traffic/results. But still it's costly...
Synthetic
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- Feb 16, 2009
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Can somebody give me a little help cuz i am a newbie , i am having domain names , hosting and good wordpress skills for now , just haven't expirience with CPA , different plugins and Video niche + THE MAIN - I can't understand what is gateway and other things
PLEASE IF U KNOW HOW THIS BUDDY DO THE METHOD - PM ME ! cuz he's probably too busy to explain ....
Hope some of u can help me and have time + nervs for one noob like me. Thanks !!!
I will appreciate that !
PLEASE IF U KNOW HOW THIS BUDDY DO THE METHOD - PM ME ! cuz he's probably too busy to explain ....
Hope some of u can help me and have time + nervs for one noob like me. Thanks !!!
I will appreciate that !
Just go check out Wordpress Guardian. That is a content gateway. It locks content so that the viewer has to fill out a CPA offer before seeing whatever content it is they want to see. This in turn makes you money.
Have you read the thread??? You PMed me asking me to pretty much explain my method which you would answer if you had read the thread. I only reply to PMs that have specific questions.
michaelwesten
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- Sep 18, 2009
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This is confusing.. why would anyone complete some stupid surveys to watch an episode that is available on
websites like yidio,megavideo,free tv project and countless other sites?
websites like yidio,megavideo,free tv project and countless other sites?
This is confusing.. why would anyone complete some stupid surveys to watch an episode that is available on
websites like yidio,megavideo,free tv project and countless other sites?
Same thing as saying why would people pay to buy them off iTunes or why do people buy software when they can find most of it online for free?
A lot of people don't know any better. You have to target people who are noobs on the net and don't have the skill to search around.