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My case study/testing about Google traffic for all of your guys to reference

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by cookman, May 18, 2014.

  1. cookman

    cookman Newbie

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    Google recent update make all huge websites to the top page, ebay, amazon, aliexpress etc. google want to tell you guys he is equal and not evil, so google put those big website to the top, because no other website has so many high quality backlink like ebay, amazon has. if strictly followe. google algo, then all top 100 pages of any keywords releated to B2C products will be ocupied by ebay, amzon, aliexpress etc. Actually, google doing evil things everyday in order avoid himself dead.
    But actually, google already dead from B2C, and B2B business. i have did a test. some of my websites on the top page of google search in the past 6 month, e.g. iphone 5 cases, iphone cases, phone cases, cheap phone cases, wholesale phone cases, cell phone accessories, cell phone cases, mobile phone case; i got most of those keywords on top 1 page, and rest on page 2~3. but unfortuntiy, i only get arround 5000 traffic every month (based on semrush report), and i keep an eye on my online vistors every hour, but there are not a lot visitors, normally 20~60 different IP online including engine bot. my sell volume arround 3~5000 USD per month, my profit less than $500/m, becasue i cut the price down to the lowest.
    that's all what i got from google traffic as the top websites on google.
    i also have store on ebay and aliexpress, they report that my traffic is 600 visitors each day, that means get 5 times traffic more than my top website on google. my sell volume above 3~50000 USD. profit $5000/m, and my store are not on the top of ebay or aliexpress, the best keywords on the page 10~20 etc. of the B2C platform. you see, traffic change to order rate much higher than google.
    I found google has a big defect in B2C business, that never can compete with those hugh B2C platforms. in B2C platform, you can sort price, but google can not sort price. in B2C platform, customer are feel saftey, but shopping in a independant website, they feel not safety, because B2C platform has strong policy to punish store sellor, and protect buyers much more than protect sellors. in b2c platform, buyer not only can sort, but also can find hot sell products, that big discount promotion, or best reputation stores, that all those function are that google do not have. people can not use google to find out those import information.
    as i said before, when buyer first find a good plaftform, then they will stick with it, and use internal search in stead of use google. sooner or later there are will nothing need google invole in.
    i believe 99.99% of independant B2C website will dead within 3 years. SEO level strong as i have, to push all those supper hot keywords to top, still can not survive whoelse can survive?
    i believe the only space for a website to make living by google traffic is sell something that forbiden sell in ebay, aliexpress, amzon etc. for example, drug, gamble, fake LV bag, etc.
    people who do google adver, is a kind of cheating, as how expensive google adver per click in. only the profit at least 5 times higher than product ex-works price then can survive. a person like me pay google 0 dollar to stay on top page can not suvive, how can others do business by earn a normally profit survive? no way! all those websites on top burning money are actually switch cost to consumer, to buyer. not all people like me do SEO with zero cost, most of website spend a lot money to buy seo service, so the top of google are all much expensive than the product normal market price. only stupid guys should buy products form a web who is doing google adver or on the 1st page of google, honestly- by cookman!
     
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  2. cookman

    cookman Newbie

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    In order avoid being catched by Matt Cutts, or some others google employees here, actually, i am not sell phone case, i am in a similar industry, my keywards on the top page have exactly same monthly seach volume as above phone case keywards.
     
  3. cookman

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    the future of search engine may still alive due to ebay amazon forbidden sell fake LV bag, or forbidden sell sex service etc. products.
    but more and more people will agree to make independent B2C website sell normal products that ebay, amazon also allowed to sell is equal to bankrupt soon. there are still a lot newbies will try this way to see whether he is lucky to survive. google has to combine those newbies' websites together with ebay, amzon, aliexpress etc. to put them to top page by random or some certain rules in order to avoid ebay, amzon, aliexpress, etsy, overstock etc. huge websites occupy all google's top 100 pages' search results, that's how evil protect himself avoid of death.
     
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    Pilfer7 Regular Member

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    paragraphs bro, please
     
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  5. cookman

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    the secret you don't know is: google do not forbid blackhat method, google do not care whether you use blackhat or whitehat, they just want to see how hard working your are working on your website. if you do whitehat, then do it to utmost, if you do blackhat, then do it to utmost, i mean, ten thousands of backlink are not enough, you should blasting billions of backlink for one site.
     
  6. cookman

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    semrush report that my traffic value above $8000 evey month, but actually i earn $500 profit. i'd rather to get this traffic money instead of sell something. that's why most of people here do not sell anything through their web, they just do ad, earn money by transfer traffic to some of other stupid independent website. the truth is the click is overvalued, should be 1/10 of current value. there is a big bubble in this economic, so as google stock price.
     
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    Post of the year
     
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  8. cookman

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    the biggest enemy to B2C website owner is traffic cost. if most of people in this forum earn money by sending traffic to others, that means the traffic price overvalued. if the traffic cost only can make some 1000% profit product survive, e.g. lucxy industry, fake brand products, insurance, loan etc. then the traffic price is overvalued.


    for ebay, amzon, aliexpress etc. monster webs, they buy 1 dollar per click is worth that money, because there are huge amount products and categories in their store, vistors always can find some products that like it. so each click change to purchase rate is very high. but for small B2C web, they have limited quanity products and categories, that visitors can not easily find what they want, so change rate very low. so 1 dollar per click to small b2c site are too expensive, that's unfair to compete with those monster websites by spend same money buy traffic with lower change to buy rate, so burning money in that way only let samll business to kill themself faster.
     
  9. cookman

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    The Panda 4.0 is definetly update for fight against GSA SER, i can tell you more, but as i said this forum is under control by Google employees that do not allow me to speak a lot.
     
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    carcamera Regular Member

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    This post is one of the best i see here.

    my shipping website has dead several times, i bought thousands dollar link building service here, but this road is dead.

    i also try to sale product on aliexpress, amazon, i upload thousands products, my traffic increased soon, sales is easy

    small store cannot beat big B2C, most product sale on small store can be found on B2C.

    i agree with you, in the future, most people only search product on ebay, amazon, aliexress, etc. not on google

    google rank b2c, because they spend million dollars to google, there are much low quality product on b2c, but google ignore it.
     
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    Is this the funny stuff section?
     
  12. terengganu.boy

    terengganu.boy Registered Member

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    panda 4.0 kick out majorities of ebay pages from google SERP..they want ebay use adword in order to gain the traffics...
     
  13. cookman

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    although it's easy to rank website, but it's difficult to get traffic from google, because google dead from fetching traffic. it not worth spend too much time on google now. in this way google killed all small e-commence, and then killed itself, because google traffic only suitable to sell fake lv bag, fake ugg etc.
     
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    In that case you are doing it completely wrong.

    SEMrush is always right.

    Why would you willingly miss out on 7.500 $$$ ??? dont you need any money?
     
  15. cookman

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    the problem is i can not transfer all my traffice price to incoming. i guess my competitor also can't, otherwise why they do not put a ad on their page? i guss if i put an ad on my page, only 1% of people will click it. that can not give me 8000$/m, as i said, all traffic is overvalue on internet. the wise guy only sell traffice, e.g. google, and bhw guys here. the stupid guys try to use those traffic to sell something. guess what result it will be? only 1000% product profit can cover to buy traffic cost. that's why i said, only fake ugg, fake lv bag ecommence can survive. of course, those have 1000% profit company also can survive, e.g. lv company official website.
    so that mean what? that means on google top page, are fulll of fooling buyer websites by sell 1000% profit to those foolish customer. that's why people leave far away from google when they what to buy something. they should go directly to ebay or amazon. google have no reason still can survive in this area:-normal e commence, the only area leaves for google survive in ecommence is those who have 1000% profit products and fake lv bag, fake ugg etc.
     
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