Music Marketing & Promotion Discussion Thread.

[NProductions]

Hello ALL,

I just wanted to know how many are we here who is an artist, manager, label owners or have music, podcast, shows or involved in the music industry.

Tell us Your STORY? Why & When Did you start your Journey?

What do you think of the music industry of today's world?

What are the challenges to stand out?

What Should be Done & whats not?

Let's Talk abt your experiences with Distribution Companies ..?

Would you join a distribution network, who promotes your music and makes you money of your Music/Endorsement?

Let's have the Healthy Discussion

 

[IG Growth]

1) I can say that the current world industry is based mostly on Marketing, that is my main thought. It does not matter how talented the artist is, but the way in which it is promoted.

I have seen people with a very incredible talent and that nobody knows them next to great artists who have only been lucky enough to have good managers and advertising agents.

2) If we talk about a challenge for me personally, it has been that being an independent producer of any record label and that I do not have enough money (Not even to eat sometimes to be honest) It is difficult to have to be the person that I promote myself, I design the covers and I make all the attempts to carry out my "career"

3) At this moment I can't think of anything hahaha.

4) In the only distribution company that I have been is Amuse in its free version, I think that the release of the song lasted too long with respect to those who pay the 5 $ asking. But after all, they released my first song in many stores, something that I thought was impossible a long time ago.

5) The idea sounds great, could you tell me more about it? How is your point of view?

 

[NProductions]

1) I can say that the current world industry is based mostly on Marketing, that is my main thought. It does not matter how talented the artist is, but the way in which it is promoted.

I have seen people with a very incredible talent and that nobody knows them next to great artists who have only been lucky enough to have good managers and advertising agents.

2) If we talk about a challenge for me personally, it has been that being an independent producer of any record label and that I do not have enough money (Not even to eat sometimes to be honest) It is difficult to have to be the person that I promote myself, I design the covers and I make all the attempts to carry out my "career"

3) At this moment I can't think of anything hahaha.

4) In the only distribution company that I have been is Amuse in its free version, I think that the release of the song lasted too long with respect to those who pay the 5 $ asking. But after all, they released my first song in many stores, something that I thought was impossible a long time ago.

5) The idea sounds great, could you tell me more about it? How is your point of view?

you can add me on IM , we can discuss

 

[digglakes]

@NProductions I have a friend who's super talented, and would like to build his audience. His band has an EP, some facebook likes, but not much on YouTube and Spotify. I don't have any experince in the music industry, but I am more geared towards it being about who you know and how you market

 

[Rolf LeStrange]

1. I started my sh*t a few years ago. My account is meant to be anon, since some of BHW tools can get you flagged on other sites.

2. The music industry is worse than ever. There an abundance of "artists" that don't write their music or even their lyrics, but they get most of the airplay in my city because it is run by evil corporations. They also have this annoying habbit of looking for the youngest person they can find and acting like they are so great, when in reality these are also over-produced losers that can't write a song to save their lives. Very frustrating that there is so much talent in the world that doesn't get heard.

3. The challenge is getting heard at all. Even if you have a strong presence online, it isn't going to make a difference. Basically everything on social media requires a hefty investment to go viral and the general public has this idiotic perception that "anything good will just go viral," but that's a fat lie. So they're always putting other people down and classism is rampant.

4. Labels (major mostly) should fire everyone that doesn't write music. They are dead weight and the reason that music has gotten so bad. They should open their doors to real talent, instead of blocking out everyone and not taking any submissions at all. "Artists" that sing karaoke and can't write a song to save their lives are worthless. At the very least they could do something in pre-production, or they aren't pulling weight.

Major labels probably need to get broken up, so they have less of a monopoly; the last I heard they blocked a Sony-Universal merger, but both of them are still monstrously destructive as it is. Cities need to make municipal laws to protect their local culture because it has been destroyed by the corporate monopoly. There's a reason that people from states with larger economies seem to be succeeding more often than others nowadays. It's highly corrupt, with an abundance of fake metrics (especially streaming), bots and it's all terrible honestly. The entire industry needs to be re-structured.

5. A distribution network could be interesting. I would give it some thought, but depends on relative benefits, if I'm required to repost others, costs, etc.

 

[Vinland]

Hey, I have a friend that is currently a rapper and is trying to increase his reach. He has found traction in the form of a paid submission to a twitch music reviewer. I am currently looking for other ways for him to promote his music. He has 1 video on youtube with 15k views, and has a spotify // soundcloud. Please let me know if anyone wants to discuss this any further. All ideas are welcome honestly .

 

[GNews]

Tell us Your STORY? Why & When Did you start your Journey?
- I've been involved with entertainment since a youth. In 2008, I helped a YouTube channel go viral in music, ended up on MTV/BET/VH1 (Viacom) networks somehow. The last generation of music tv stars.

What do you think of the music industry of today's world?
- Scams galore . If you're not scamming, you're not making money. Real talent is rarely the case of those successful.

What are the challenges to stand out?
- Same ol' deal. A true talent will struggle to sacrifice art for profit. Nwws more label owners who care about artist development and focused on giving aritsts the space to create truly timeless content

What Should be Done & whats not?
- If you're a true artist, focus on your content and message. That will stay in rotation.
- If you just want to be famous for the moment, just keep throwing a ton of content out there until you catch.

Let's Talk abt your experiences with Distribution Companies ..?
Would you join a distribution network, who promotes your music and makes you money of your Music/Endorsement?
- I've set up 2 artists on Tunecore. Positive experiences. They've done well.

 

[Vinland]

Wow since 2008, that's very impressive!
I've been working on music for about 8 years, and think that the music we produce is very authentic.
as for the 2 artists that you've worked with, could I see who they are? and how much do you charge for any services you provide (if any)?

 

[GNews]

Wow since 2008, that's very impressive!
I've been working on music for about 8 years, and think that the music we produce is very authentic.
as for the 2 artists that you've worked with, could I see who they are? and how much do you charge for any services you provide (if any)?

Tactics I used back then help today but aren't as influential as then.

Today, you really need to pump content OR have a SERIOUS penmanship. Understanding of lyrics and composition to connect with audience.

Your budget has to be realistic when pumping content as well.

In Hip-Hop you see a lot of talent flourishing today from the streets because they have money to fund taking 100 shots. That's really what created a 'strong hold' on music I'm convinced. Hence all the problems with the Hip-Hop culture as well because you're seeing criminals, not rappers.

The real artists, even if they were once criminals, have to dedicate themselves to the craft and not the 'street life' nor 'club life'

A lot of people put on the image of money but only the ones who really have it survive. They are the only ones who can use the 'flood' technique 99.9% of the time b/c of the work ethic 1 man would need to have to compete with a team of 5.

If you would like help, you can see the link in my signature. Be careful of how you jump out with random 'can you' on this forum as it's not permitted outside of the proper section.

You can ask for professional help in the 'want to buy' section.

 

[chbicolosira]

You need 10k Stream/Day on spotify to make a living from music , so unless you have a big fanbase of more than 5000-10000 people who listen you everyday u not gonna make a living , or you can go viral but it mostly wont happen , cause its only 1% of people who go viral

 

[chbicolosira]

1. I started my sh*t a few years ago. My account is meant to be anon, since some of BHW tools can get you flagged on other sites.

2. The music industry is worse than ever. There an abundance of "artists" that don't write their music or even their lyrics, but they get most of the airplay in my city because it is run by evil corporations. They also have this annoying habbit of looking for the youngest person they can find and acting like they are so great, when in reality these are also over-produced losers that can't write a song to save their lives. Very frustrating that there is so much talent in the world that doesn't get heard.

3. The challenge is getting heard at all. Even if you have a strong presence online, it isn't going to make a difference. Basically everything on social media requires a hefty investment to go viral and the general public has this idiotic perception that "anything good will just go viral," but that's a fat lie. So they're always putting other people down and classism is rampant.

4. Labels (major mostly) should fire everyone that doesn't write music. They are dead weight and the reason that music has gotten so bad. They should open their doors to real talent, instead of blocking out everyone and not taking any submissions at all. "Artists" that sing karaoke and can't write a song to save their lives are worthless. At the very least they could do something in pre-production, or they aren't pulling weight.

Major labels probably need to get broken up, so they have less of a monopoly; the last I heard they blocked a Sony-Universal merger, but both of them are still monstrously destructive as it is. Cities need to make municipal laws to protect their local culture because it has been destroyed by the corporate monopoly. There's a reason that people from states with larger economies seem to be succeeding more often than others nowadays. It's highly corrupt, with an abundance of fake metrics (especially streaming), bots and it's all terrible honestly. The entire industry needs to be re-structured.

5. A distribution network could be interesting. I would give it some thought, but depends on relative benefits, if I'm required to repost others, costs, etc.

this is clearly the truth , people think that with good contend u gonna go viral but its big ass fat lie , only 10% of the artist in the world can make a living , im probably sure that its even more like 5-3% , there is a ton of artist everyday , 40,000 new track upload on spotify everyday , for going viral nowadays u gonna need a lotttt of money for advertising or getting luckey with algorithm and shitt , if u wanna be sucessful its probably gonna take many years before its happen so i would advice for someone who want start a music career , u should think twice