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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by finxx, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. finxx

    finxx Newbie

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    I run a local shop around a metro area. I have a question maybe you can help me out with. I have a website that does great with google adwords. I want to make 20 different websites targeted at 20 different cities/keywords around the area. One question I have is on the morality or legality of it. Basically I'll have 20 different websites with 20 different keyword rich urls. All with hidden registration info, not false info.

    If I have 20 different websites that have different addresses and contact information but the phone numbers are all forwarded to me, is that illegal in some way? Everything is fair in love, war and business but I wont do anything illegal. Any help would be appreciated!

    I could do a dba name addition if that makes it legal with the state.
     
  2. Techxan

    Techxan Elite Member

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    I do this on a small scale, and have no problems with it, just use different contact info for the sites and you should be fine. I routinely build a site for a customer, then another targeting an aspect of his business, then another targeting a new aspect, and so on.
     
  3. taranisman

    taranisman Newbie

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    Wont the other sites be seen as duplicates and therefore ranked lower, with less traffic, and less money from adsense? I was thinking about making a site for a niche i found with another similar EMD available but don't want to have to make all new content...I guess I have to though...
     
  4. finxx

    finxx Newbie

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    adsense isnt really what i'm looking to do. maybe adwords. I get conversions when the customer calls. If i can have a lot of different websites that all forward to my office number I would dominate. I hope. I just dont want it to be illegal.
     
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    Endire Elite Member Premium Member

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    Finxx,

    Your strategy is not illegal and would be comparable to opening up multiple store fronts. I don't think there is anything morally wrong with this either as long as you aren't trying to deceive or cheat people. If you offer great content, services, products on all of your sites, this seems fine.

    I would just be careful to make unique content on all of your different properties so that you don't get hit with duplicate content problems.

    Here is an interesting article on having multiple websites,

    http://www.seobook.com/should-you-have-multiple-websites

    Here is another good piece on the subject,

    http://www.searchengineoptimizationjournal.com/google-multiple-websites/

    Hope that helps,

    Shawn
     
  6. ok180

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    It's not illegal but Google will ban your arse if they pick up on the fact your trying to use adwords on different sites for the same business. Is that what you mean your trying to do? If it's just for organice traffic then yes it's an option but again Google will consider the new sites "doorway" pages which they don't like. It's unlikely they would catch you themselves, it's more your competitors you have to worry about.
     
  7. finxx

    finxx Newbie

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    Thanks! Thats great news! I'll write a lot of different content on each just to make sure. Every customer I've had (knock on wood) have given us glowing reviews. I feel like it would be a disservice to let them go to a competitor and the customer not experience what we have to offer :)

    Also, Why would I worry about the competition? Thanks again!
     
  8. ok180

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    Because they will be the first ones to dob you in if your doing anything you shouldn't be doing according to Google. Don't underestimate how jealous competitors can become of your online marketing startegies. I recently had a competitior who couldnt handle the fact I was out ranking them blast my site with xrumer blog crap. It happens.
     
  9. geezer466

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    Just make sure you don't link any of them to each other in any way and you should be fine.

    Many places will make separate sites for say blue widget, green widget and red widget. Provided the content on each site is useful and unique and provides something for the end user you should be ok.
    As has already been mentioned they do frown upon kw rich doorway sites ranking high and with a deliberate attempt to deceive the end user and send them to another site. In any event where this may have worked in the past, it is unlikely to now.

    You say you intend to use Adwords in your business model. This means you will be passing revenue to google and no matter how much of a monopoly they are they do not cut their dicks off to spite their face.
     
  10. finxx

    finxx Newbie

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    Yeah, I'm not really worried about the competition. Just the customers. I have so little time to invest and I have marketing, servicing, parts ordering, sales, customer service, invoicing, bookkeeping, general business admin, etc. I wish I had time to worry about the competition.

    Thanks Geezer, What I'm trying to do is have 7 websites for "blue widget", 7 websites for "red widget" and 7 websites for "green widget". Each website is going to have a completely different theme, completely different content, completely different address and phone number. The only way the SEO's would be able to know if it was all the same person is if they call the "fake" websites number which is forwarded to my main business line. I dont really see that as cheating or illegal. Hope not.

    Same principle as the grocery store. Take cheese for example. If you go to the cheese isle you will see 10-20 different manufacturers of cheese. What people dont realize is that it's all made from the same 3 manufacturers. Kraft, Kellogg, or land-o-lakes. All the other brands are just dummy brands that flow into the same bank account.

    Or sunglasses. You ever buy any of these glasses?

    Arnette
    Eye Safety Systems
    K&L
    Mosley Tribes
    Oakley
    Oliver Peoples
    Persol
    Ray-Ban
    Revo
    Sferoflex
    Vogue
    Anne Klein
    Brooks Brothers
    Bulgari
    Burberry
    Chanel
    Chaps
    Coach
    Dolce and Gabbana
    DKNY
    Donna Karan eyewear
    Miu Miu
    Polo Ralph Lauren
    Prada
    Ralph Lauren Purple Label
    Paul Smith
    Stella McCartney
    Tiffany & Co.
    Tory Burch
    Versace



    Then chances are your glasses were made by Luxottica. Nobody really knows and as long as their getting a great product with great service, nobody really cares too much. Just trying to see if that model works for my industry.

    Thanks for all of your input. When I make google local account with each website should I use a different computer or just delete the cookies and swap the external IP address via modem reset? I'm not sure what google records. Do they know your information to a point where they can detect the same computer created all accounts or should I do each one in a virtual operating system? Will I be good with just a cookie deletion and IP address renew? Please let me know, thanks!



     
  11. richardknightseo

    richardknightseo Newbie

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    and you don't want that!