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Most "exact" domain name?

Discussion in 'Domain Names & Parking' started by wallofiron, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. wallofiron

    wallofiron Power Member

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    Which domain would rank higher all things being equal?

    Consider keywords "best grill", how does "best-grill.com", "the-best-grill.com" perform, as compared to "bestgrill.com"


    what if all those "bestgrill" keywords domains are taken... .com/.org.net.info..

    would "10bestgrill" be better than "best4grill" or even "mybestgrill" or "Bestgrillwebsite"????


    Is there even an answer?

    Have you found one outperforms the other?

    Thank for sharing your experience.
     
  2. DebtFreeMe

    DebtFreeMe Regular Member

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    From what I have seen any one of the sites you show would be ok. But it is not a make it or break it thing, it is just one small part in the whole SEO strategy, but it is an easy one to start with.

    Once I have chosen my key words I most often look for a site name people would remember, which is usually whatever the keywords are, with no hyphens or other characters.

    If you want people to be able to more easily understand the name just capitalize the first letter of each word in your advertising. So like MyBestGrill, or TheBestGrill, etc.

    Hope that helps...
     
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  3. wallofiron

    wallofiron Power Member

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    Does google consider an "exact" match doman the same in both these circumstances?

    "TheBestGrillWebsite.com" vs "The-Best-Grille-Website.com" ?
     
  4. bobbylove321

    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    From personal experience and talking with other successful marketers, I've found out the following:

    .org with the exact keywords will outrank a .com ("bestgrill.org" if you keywords were "best grill")

    If the exact keyword domain is not available, then a hyphen would be a good choice, so "best-grill.org"

    No one knows 100%, but I believe .org has more authority in Google's eyes.
     
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  5. bobbylove321

    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    Regarding your question about:

    "TheBestGrillWebsite.com" vs "The-Best-Grille-Website.com"

    TheBestGrillWebsite.org will outrank TheBestGrillWebsite.com and TheBestGrillWebsite.com will outrank The-Best-Grill-Website.com

    Remember the MOST important factor IS Quality and Quantity of backlinks to your site.

    So you have the site MyBestFriend.com and it could be about the best grill website, but if it has 1 million backlinks it will outrank the site with the exact domain name.
     
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  6. Bryan

    Bryan Power Member

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    Are you sure .org will outrank .com because I see a domain available for .org but not for .com and that exact keywords gets about 20k searches a month, should I grab the .org one?
     
  7. bobbylove321

    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    Bryan,

    Yes a .org carries a bigger authority to it than a .com and the reason is because a .org is meant for "Organization" while a .com is meant for "Commercial" purposes.

    Google gives .org more weight.
     
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  8. Bryan

    Bryan Power Member

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    Awesome, thanks for the info
     
  9. hayw0027

    hayw0027 Newbie

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    Yes, I have done an enormous amount of testing with domain names. .org does have a slight advantage over .com, and .com has a slight advantage over .net. They are the only 3 TLD's that get the exact match bonus from Google. .biz and .info get zero exact match bonus in my opinion.

    The reason there are still a truckload of .org exact match domains still available is due to Gurus always enforcing that people stick with .com's for branding purposes. Since iv been aware of the exact match bonus for 18months now, iv managed to pick up some rippers. Even just a few weeks ago I picked up nowinnofeelawyer.org and it will blow your mind what lawyers are paying per click in adwords for that exact match phrase. I havent done anything productive with the domain yet other than threw wprobot to get it nicely indexed. Go have a look in the Google adwords keyword tool for the cost per click estimates if your intrigued. Here is a quick example.

    no win no fee accident claim - ave cpc = $292 - 2900 search/month
    no win no fee claims - ave cpc = $260 - 1300 search/month
    no win no fee - ave cpc = $255 - 8100 search/month

    I picked up 5 exact match domains from this niche that day, my highest pays out at $130 per click with 4000 monthly exact match searches.

    Exact match domains are extremely easy to rank for their accossiated key phrase. Only takes 5 or 10% of the seo and backlinking a normal domain would take. But remember thats obviously only for its exact match phrase. There is still a benifit if you have a domain nofeelawyer.org and somebody searches plural, "no fee lawyers", but that benifit is only a fraction of what the exact match bonus is, so would take a lot more work to rank.

    Ill do some round about calculations for my domain. Lets say I get it to number 1 ranking in Goog and get a 50% click through rate to my website. So 50% of the predicted 4000 monthly searches for my exact match term is 2000 visits. With most of my developed adsense monitized exact match domains I get between 15 - 30% CTR on my adsense.

    Nobody knows because Google wont tell, but adsense gurus believes we as adsense publishers get around 60 - 65% of the value of the adsense click.

    So lets say I get a 20% CTR on my adsense with this new domain, Google pays me 60% commision on every click, each click is worth $130 x .60 = $78 per click

    2000 x .20 = 400 x $78 = $31,200/month, jeez thats not bad eh, haha.

    I very much doubt I will get $78/click due to other content on the web page diluting the value of the clicks but still, its definitely got potential and the 4 other exact match domains I picked up from that niche that day are not far off it either.

    Hope those ridiculously high numbers inspires you to go out and get some high search volume, high cpc exact match domains for yourself. You will be amazed at how many pots of gold are still available. Get into it.
     
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  10. darkface

    darkface Senior Member

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    Mind hitting us up how much you end up really making with that site? Would be interesting to see mate
     
  11. biks

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    When I explain to people how I'm making money off of niche sites and I end up getting a .org for whatever I'm selling, they always ask "I thought .org's were for ORGANIZATIONS?" My reply is usually:

    I just bought fuzzytoiletseats.org. There are no organizations for the betterment of fuzzy toilet seats. I am now that organization! :p
     
  12. iitob

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    Thanks for the extensive info - very interesting stuff.
     
  13. Elitepinki

    Elitepinki Power Member

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    wow never knew .org was better than .com
     
  14. vickygarg

    vickygarg Power Member

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    I did not know .org was better,lets see,also hayw could u please share the cpc and ctr u r getting for ur sites?
    Because what I have seen is that out of the avg cpc in adwords I usually get only 10-20% of that.
    For eg. lets says xyz keyword has a avg cpc of $10,U may only get $1-2 a click with it,but it depends on adv comp and how many sites actually r competing for that keyword,this thread was actually very informative.