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Monetize torrent website with CPA/CPM anonymously?

Discussion in 'Pay Per View' started by g_bot, May 16, 2014.

  1. g_bot

    g_bot Newbie

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    Lets say i have a torrent indexing website no hosted content just magnet links and it starts getting few thousand hits a day and increasing steadily.

    I try my best to hide my identity, but if i put an ad-network's code on my website it'd be the weakest link in the chain.

    Even if i stay away from Paypal, wire transfers and checks, ad network can still be made to giveaway details of prepaid cards that many of them offer payments to.

    How are the big guys doing it? I see banners and popunders from major networks all over on similar sites.
     
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  2. Blackmanray

    Blackmanray Newbie

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    Ive had a few cases with torrent traffic being converted to movie download sites and related niches. Be careful of legal action on your torrent site though.

    good luck
     
  3. Phunky

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    I think the main thing is just finding the right network that is comfortable with your kind of traffic. Most of the big sites that have ads always have the same damn ad every time you visit. I can't even remember the last time I visited TPB without Russian women being pushed in my face.
     
  4. g_bot

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    I have found sites like TPB are using networks like Propeller Ads, ExoClick, PopUnder.

    My main concern right now, is getting paid without leaving a big trail towards my identity. The other guys just couldn't just be getting paid via wire transfers.

    If someone here has any advice, i'd really appreciate it.
     
  5. derpberp

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    I think most of the large torrent sites use ad programs that pay in Bitcoin. There is plenty of affiliate programs and link shortening sites & ad sites that pay only in Bitcoin. You then take the Bitcoin to "LocalBitcoins.com" and trade them out for cash directly with one of the traders in your city. You meet up somewhere in town and do an exchange from bitcoin to cash in person. No paper trail, only cash deals with no use of I.D. (If you're really paranoid, log into LocalBitcoins via Fresh Proxies or a VPN. I wouldn't use TOR, I think they've beaten that and is no longer safe to hide behind). I hope I've helped! Take care!

    Edit: Just do a google search for "Bitcoin site monetization" and tons will pot up. Can't vouch for how well they work, but I do know some work very well. I've shortened links for Youtube videos on how to "mine" alt coins and such, each time they click the link, they see an advertisement and I get paid. Thats from "CoinURL". There's plenty of other sites that work more along the lines of Adsense but pay in Bitcoin.
     
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  6. derpberp

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    P.S: If I were you I would use a Bitcoin Tumbling Service. They basically take your Bitcoins and exchange them for unrelated Bitcoins of the same value. This way you really can't tell where the coins have been coming from.

    The only scary thing about that is what if the coins you were exchanged came from some where more shady than your original bitcoins? LMAO
     
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  7. CyHead

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    Wow - bitcoin to real cash meetup sounds dangerous!
     
  8. helper44

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    It's not honestly, you just can't be retarded about it. I've traded quite a bit through localbitcoins, always in person to person trades. The online trades are the ones that scare me, due to paypal chargebacks and such.

    I always do the trades at flying-star or starbucks, or any other public place with cameras and free wifi internet. The people on Localbitcoins have track records of transactions with written reviews, most of them having 100+ $1,000 dollar transactions with good reviews. They are registered as a business, my local bitcoin trader pays taxes and all. He follows guidelines and is registered as a money transferring service and charges 7% sales tax and everything. He is not required to get my identification, only required to charge sales tax. There's also Bitcoin ATM's if you'd rather deal with a machine.

    They are making quite a bit, around 15% or more depending on arbitrage opportunities from buying from one exchange and charging another exchanges price. They have plenty of incentive to be legitimate. The site itself acts as an escrow system. You send the BTC to LocalBitcoins, then you have to release the coins once the cash is in hand. If you really feel unsafe, I know it's legal to open carry in my state. :) Use your rights to arm yourself. But honestly, I've never had a problem. Just trying to help. Just don't be stupid about it kay? Don't invite the guy in for tea and pancakes and you should be alright.

    As long as you trade with people that have good reviews, and I mean more than 10... and you meet in a public place you should be fine. I've exchanged quite a bit worth of bitcoins this way (over $10k) after the last rise. I even made my trader show me his business license. Hes "Abqbitcoins". I've traded for paypal and other things but I always felt safest doing cash transactions. I also rarely did more than $1,500 per transaction. Hedge your risk.

    This way there's no way the payment can be reversed. I'd rather have a nice stack of bengy's in a bank envelope and know its over, than to wake up to a paypal payment that says "reversal" a week later. ;) Or a fake cashiers check that only the person that cashes it can get in trouble for.

    Yes there's risk, but if you do it correctly, and protect yourself from obvious threats, you should be fine. I've never had a problem. I've always felt there was more risk in online Bitcoin trades due to ways of charging back after the transaction is complete. Alot of the payment styles used by those guys could be charged back after you leave a review, Whats to protect you from that? You can't even knock the guy if you've written the review already.

    Once you find your guy you build a relationship with him. You trade with him locally and for cash only. You are much safer than accepting Paypal and putting your identity out there. 15% is cheap when looking to hide your Identity. Treat it the same way as using craigslist. Don't be too friendly or put yourself in a situation you don't want to be in. Be smart about it.
     
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  9. g_bot

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    I am not sure about that, unless these ad programs act as mediators for bigger ad networks like Propeller Ads or Popunders because they're all over the torrent sites. Perhaps they're getting payouts to offshore bank accounts or addresses.

    Bitcoin ad networks i have checked mostly have advertisers related to bitcoin niche, so it wont work for a torrent website.
     
  10. helper44

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    Sounds like you answered your own question then. Enjoy Jail. Lol.