Monetization of Music Channel

boy_toronto

boy_toronto

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Hey guys,

I started a music channel a few days ago and I'm trying to understand how music channels make money on youtube. Channels such as Chill Nation, MrSuicideSheep, Proximity, xKito Music, Trap City, CloudKid, Monstercat ...
All their songs have copyright claims and they can't be monetized. I uploaded the same songs that they have as a test and they all have copyright claims.
Those channels post videos daily. Why have all the trouble of creating videos daily when they can't be monetized? I must be missing something here.
Please shed some light if you have an insight on this topic.
 
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Those channels are releasing these songs mate. They are only reuploading content that they got permission to reupload. Artists gives them rights to reupload the music in exchange of social links in the comments/desc. The niche your in is extremely difficult. People doesnt search for copys of NCS or Trap Nation. Good luck with the niche.
 
drago007mc said:
Those channels are releasing these songs mate. They are only reuploading content that they got permission to reupload. Artists gives them rights to reupload the music in exchange of social links in the comments/desc. The niche your in is extremely difficult. People doesnt search for copys of NCS or Trap Nation. Good luck with the niche.
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Thanks for your reply, but I don't buy this idea that all these music channels have permission from all record labels.
There are thousands of record labels out there, just all the logistics to get in touch with all of them would make it impossible.
Maybe these channels buy a license to stream music, I don't know, that's what I'm trying to find out.
Some music channels grow from 0 to 1M subs in a year. How is that possible when you're posting copyrighted songs and you can't monetize it. I'm not even talking about Trap Nation.
An example is Magic Music. Channel was created a year ago and it has more than 1M subs already, he has a music video posted 2 months after creating the channel with 30M views. It seems to be very odd for me.
Record labels won't be giving permission for new channels, and even when they do, how do they clean the copyright claims when the video is uploaded? It takes days to clean a copyright claim.
 
I'll give you 2 examples:

1) They reach out to artists/management and ask them if they can upload the songs, and have them sign the form.
They've done this with the artist I manage.

2) The artists/label/management reach out to the channel, and ask if they can upload their artist's single.
I've done this for my artist as well.


It can be either of the 2. Some labels are seeing these youtube channels as benificial, so they are reaching out to them to get those Views.
 
Gassly said:
I'll give you 2 examples:

1) They reach out to artists/management and ask them if they can upload the songs, and have them sign the form.
They've done this with the artist I manage.

2) The artists/label/management reach out to the channel, and ask if they can upload their artist's single.
I've done this for my artist as well.


It can be either of the 2. Some labels are seeing these youtube channels as benificial, so they are reaching out to them to get those Views.
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Thanks for your reply.
I created a music channel a few days ago and I posted 20 songs so far. My goal is to understand how they are running these music channels so I've been doing some tests in regards to the copyright claims. For example I uploaded a remix of Justin Bieber - Despacito and I had no problems at all.
From what I could see the Content ID let's you upload pretty much any song to your channel, but it doesn't let you monetize it.
So these channels are reaching out to the record labels to ask permission to monetize the songs in exchange of publicity, there's no need to ask permission to upload a song since the Content ID has most songs in the database already.
 
Yeah you are right most of the time or almost everytime those channels wont be able to monetize those content but they create a very authority channel and can flip it for a big amount who knows. Or can deal with local agencies to promote their content, who knows possibilities are endless and adsense is not the only option to earn from youtube
 
boy_toronto said:
Thanks for your reply.
I created a music channel a few days ago and I posted 20 songs so far. My goal is to understand how they are running these music channels so I've been doing some tests in regards to the copyright claims. For example I uploaded a remix of Justin Bieber - Despacito and I had no problems at all.
From what I could see the Content ID let's you upload pretty much any song to your channel, but it doesn't let you monetize it.
So these channels are reaching out to the record labels to ask permission to monetize the songs in exchange of publicity, there's no need to ask permission to upload a song since the Content ID has most songs in the database already.
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I dont think they ever monetize them bro... The channels make their money in different ways, like somebody paying them to post an artist's song up for publicity since they have a huge reach. Or they throw their own music events because they've become a solidified brand. Some of them sign artists for a few songs and release them like a label basically too..
 
Gassly said:
I dont think they ever monetize them bro... The channels make their money in different ways, like somebody paying them to post an artist's song up for publicity since they have a huge reach. Or they throw their own music events because they've become a solidified brand. Some of them sign artists for a few songs and release them like a label basically too..
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Obviously they are making money somehow. What would be considered a big youtube channel? 1M subs?
I just don't believe that didn't make any money in the beginning.
Who is crazy enough to start a channel, work everyday on it, posting videos, promoting the channel without making any money til they become big enough with 1M subs to start capitalizing on it, when there's no guarantee that they willl ever reach 1M subs or it might take years for that to happen.
 
boy_toronto said:
Obviously they are making money somehow. What would be considered a big youtube channel? 1M subs?
I just don't believe that didn't make any money in the beginning.
Who is crazy enough to start a channel, work everyday on it, posting videos, promoting the channel without making any money til they become big enough with 1M subs to start capitalizing on it, when there's no guarantee that they willl ever reach 1M subs or it might take years for that to happen.
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well ill tell you that they def not making money off the videos that have copyrights on them... 100%. cant run adsense on them. you can run them on the artists who are blowing up and have a decent following, but who havent distributed their music to retailers yet.
 
Gassly said:
well ill tell you that they def not making money off the videos that have copyrights on them... 100%. cant run adsense on them. you can run them on the artists who are blowing up and have a decent following, but who havent distributed their music to retailers yet.
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I had an idea that I want to test to see if works. There are some songs that will be released Aug 15, I'm trying to get those songs and I'll upload as soon as I get them, hopefully before they are added to the Content ID database, this way it won't trigger any copyright claims on those videos. I'll keep those videos privates til Aug 15 tho. This might be a way of bypassing the Content ID.
 
Links in description? 10.000 views can lead like a 100 clicks everyday, totally automatic. Not bad for backlinks or cpa.
 
boy_toronto said:
I had an idea that I want to test to see if works. There are some songs that will be released Aug 15, I'm trying to get those songs and I'll upload as soon as I get them, hopefully before they are added to the Content ID database, this way it won't trigger any copyright claims on those videos. I'll keep those videos privates til Aug 15 tho. This might be a way of bypassing the Content ID.
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I think you will never monetize with youtube copywrighted content, never. You will get a warning or a ban.
If you have 20.000+ views a day total and think you can get lots of sub in six months, go for it and use links in description to monetize: fb page likes, suscribe landing page, related blogging niche of your music genre with adsense, plain cpa with pop ups. Or then you can buy or make some original music and monetize that video and use all the traffic from your previous unmonetizable work. Some ideas.
 
boy_toronto said:
Hey guys,

I started a music channel a few days ago and I'm trying to understand how music channels make money on youtube. Channels such as Chill Nation, MrSuicideSheep, Proximity, xKito Music, Trap City, CloudKid, Monstercat ...
All their songs have copyright claims and they can't be monetized. I uploaded the same songs that they have as a test and they all have copyright claims.
Those channels post videos daily. Why have all the trouble of creating videos daily when they can't be monetized? I must be missing something here.
Please shed some light if you have an insight on this topic.
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Pm me. I sell real traffic.
 
BrandoBando said:
Pm me. I sell real traffic.
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In on this topic. This is something has struck me for a long time, as I am planning on running multiple music channels and have always wondered in the past how other people do it.

Anybody got some more knowledge to drop on this one?
 
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