Interesting. I have my own process of automatic content generation, it's crude but clever and works. It's perfectly readable and grammatically correct, though it makes no semantic sense whatsoever
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Expertpeon
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Interesting. I have my own process of automatic content generation, it's crude but clever and works. It's perfectly readable and grammatically correct, though it makes no semantic sense whatsoever
My method is not "automatic" rather, it does make semantic sense when you're done. Also, it's not being pulled from any other online source.
In fact, it's content that takes up to 3 days to generate, but is absolutely worth it.
It's several million words when completed.
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Mine is semi-automatic, involves a lot of work on my end. I think I make 1 million words in about a day. You don't manual spin do you? My spinning is automatic but uses a RIDICULOUSLY customized thesaurus in my spinning software. I basically wiped everything and started the english language from scratch, taking into account all the grammatical contexts of a word when adding synonyms. It took me about 3 months of 12 hours a day work to complete, but I couldn't be manual spinning it would have killed me.
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Either way, you have to manually generate the sentences. This is the 98%+ of all the work.
I rewrite 60 variations (6 groups of 10) of interchangeable sentences and then use those groups to generate 1 3 sentence paragraph (each paragraph encompasses nearly all permutative possiblities for such placement before or after each group in the paragraph). I do this, 5 times to generate 5 paragraphs, this is after dropping the synonyms in.
You can automate the synonyms part (though it'd probably inherently ruin your capitalization to do so), but it wouldn't really save too much time anyway.
Such spintaxes are usually 7-10mb in size, and 2-3 million words. But the goal is actually to permutatively capture every possible combination and ruin the spider's ability to detect the spun content (even if Google has a n-gram check, which I'm certain they don't). The problem is, not only is the uniqueness very high (even comparing n-grams of 8 or 9) within the article, but overlapping sentences of content push this to another factor of around 50 more than just 60 sentence replacements.
The usable lifespan of such an article is around 1 million + articles. if not much higher. I'd also much rather do this across some extremely unique resources I've built than dump xrumer posts into forums. I'd bet my methods decimate the results from this xrumer spam, but it's tough to say as I have not spent a ton of time modding my xrumer.
They also have the benefit of being exceptionally readable if done right, and semantically correct.
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That sounds really good - I don't quite fully understand it i.e. how you can get a 1 million variation document out of such a relatively small amount of rewrites. Does it fool G at the moment? But it sounds more like what folks at BLACK HAT world should be discussing rather than people just buying overpriced SEO services or talking about how much of a guru kensai is (lol).
There is so much, and people are afraid of hard work. If someone told you how to do and what to do, you would still be scared to do it. Also, you need shit loads of custom tools and scripts to complete many of the steps. People love the idea of Xrumer because you press a button and out comes cash. If it were that easy, everyone would be rich, prices around the world would skyrocket so everyone would be poor again (I think, or something like that, I was never good at economics but I am good at spamming). When I finally set everything up, pre-penguin, and finally pressed the "Start" button, waited two weeks for my sites to rank and saw my affiliate earnings go up and up and up, it did feel fucking AWESOME. I think that's the dream of Xrumer. Press Start button, walk away, drink a beer and maybe screw a chick, while Xrumer works and cash comes out. But then I th ink how hard it was to set up everything, to learn everything, the failure, the day after day work for months on end with no reward. Any sort of teaching would have to be hundreds of pages long, combined with shit loads of custom tools and scripts, and a whole lot of motivational speech as well to prevent you from shooting yourself. I think the worst part for me was programming my thesaurus from scratch. It was seriously the most insane fucking thing I've ever done in my life, and now I don't even use it anymore because I have suspended production of any new sites until I can see what is happening with this Penguin shit, i.e. how often the updates are, whether all my sites will be hit, and so on. I kinda miss Xrumering though... might just build and SEO a batch of 10 sites for the hell of it, lol. Just got to transfer the domains to my good ol' chinese registrar.
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It's quite simple, as far as how the permutations work, however, the actual variation of the article will be in the quintillions of unique articles (if not many factors higher than this, I don't bother calculating such things).
I cap it at the 500k or so range for my own use because, quite simply, I want someone who manually checks it to not find any n-gram of 8 or higher for any article.
It's very simple how this is done and why it works.
You actually have positional changes of where the actual sentences appears and in what order... 60 sentences can be randomly displayed in 3 locations within a paragraph.
Do you use this content for search engines specifically or for it to (somehow) pass some sort of site's manual reviews e.g. guest posting and the like? I do my content very differently but it works for G. However despite almost perfect grammatical correctness it makes no sense and therefore funny reading at times. Sometimes I like to read my link spam and laugh at it. I get a slight buzz seeing my juicy link within a bunch of grammatically correct bullshit.
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thanks for sharing but I am not interested in using Xrumers anymore. some of my sites have been affected very severely.
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With mixing and mashing many articles like 50-100 in paragraph level with at least 20-30 paragraphs variations and on top of it (if required) auto word spinning gives very good results especially when the outcome is no less than 1000 words per article.
That said, none of my wordpress.com blogs are getting deleted with this type of content and they get indexed without sending links towards them.
That said, none of my wordpress.com blogs are getting deleted with this type of content and they get indexed without sending links towards them.
With all do respect aren't you basically saying that you don't like Kensai because he gives newbs, newbie advice in Xrumer? I mean isnt that exactly what a newb would want? I've never got his training so I can't speak to that but I have seen him state numerous times that you should read the manual and get your feet wet before getting his xrumer coaching and come with a list of questions. Like I said, i've never gotten his coaching so perhaps someone whose had it could correct me...
I use AI files but your right having multiple instances of xrumer customized per platform is the way to go.
Oh yeah I forgot... this somehow has to be about how awesome you are.....
I mean first you say its crap, then you say its not groundbreaking, etc, etc. I mean I would imagine we would both agree that if its just you, the internet, and newly purchased xrumer - you'd have a hell of a mountain in front of you to climb. The very existence of that guide would be extremely valuable to me in that position and I know it would be for you as well.
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Thanks to those who contributed to the thread.
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Roland - Herein lies the problem, newbie advice will get you fucking nowhere. Spend a day fiddling with Xrumer and you will learn its basic functions, and you will save yourself 200 bucks or whatever ridiculous amount kensai charges, plus 50 bucks or so for his useless AI file. XR has been translated into english so it's not hard to see what everything does.
To get any sort of success with Xrumer, you HAVE to aim to be the exception rather than the general masses of people trying to spam profile links. You DON'T need a fucking AI file. At least GODOVERYOU is trying to help dudes for free and stuff (well I hope). Look at Expertpeon and the shit he does with content generation - that's the kind of stuff that gets money in SEO, not all these tools like NHSEO, wiki bomber (or whatever it is) , AMR and such. It's a great fantasy and we would all love it to be true, but pressing one button doesn't make you rich. kensai gets rich from newbies who still believe in this dream. i.e. that Xrumer is out of the box some kind of money printing monster.
To get any sort of success with Xrumer, you HAVE to aim to be the exception rather than the general masses of people trying to spam profile links. You DON'T need a fucking AI file. At least GODOVERYOU is trying to help dudes for free and stuff (well I hope). Look at Expertpeon and the shit he does with content generation - that's the kind of stuff that gets money in SEO, not all these tools like NHSEO, wiki bomber (or whatever it is) , AMR and such. It's a great fantasy and we would all love it to be true, but pressing one button doesn't make you rich. kensai gets rich from newbies who still believe in this dream. i.e. that Xrumer is out of the box some kind of money printing monster.