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Michel Scammed me

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by superman, Feb 5, 2008.

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  1. superman

    superman BANNED BANNED

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    I think if you did a post on how many people have been ripped off by Michel you might be shocked.

    Ok michel offered a money making program on your forum. Which now he won't refund ....
    He said he was making 20,000 - 30,000 a month.
    So I joined he offered me a discount rate of 1300.00.

    That was back in Dec 2007 I paid by paypal.

    So I waited and waited ...

    Before that 1300.00 I gave him 500.00 to create a sec website (back in Oct 2007 (I have been cloaking for years sec forum I am Chronicles of Dan ) Michel said he had a better way . So he built themedicinestore.com for me .. I got a site that gets 9 real visitor he keeps saying you got 350 hit ??
    The man doesn't even know hits mean nothing ???

    Well back to the $1300.00 he built me 3 more site that do nothing and has given me no documentation
    of any kind for creating this money making program.
    Today I asked for refund he lol and said no ....

    How long would you wait ? remember his post on War Chest he asked for a refund and got it

    Is this really the kind of Mod you want on your Forum ?
     
  2. DrGonzo

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    That sounds well out of order, if all the facts are correct! If you offered a service or sold a product that did not meet the description you are entitled to a refund.
     
  3. andyred

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    themedicinestore.com looks like crap.
    I don't think that website gets more than 10 visitors per month.
    Superman haven't you learned so far. Don't pay anyone until you see the final results. It's like in any successful business. Work first money after.
    Too bad to hear this crap happens to good people
     
  4. Michel

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    I will leave this topic open and not use my Super Mod power.

    One thing I will say before I respond (or not), you are a sick person to put this into a forum. First I made you different websites and now you putin a claim at PayPal after 5 weeks for services.

    Coming here and start complaining and hurting my reputation is just pure evil.
    I haven't even seen your whole post yet, but I find this very very strange......
     
  5. Michel

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    Oh and also, please put up a list here of people that have been scammed by me.
    I will leave that alone and all those people can say whatever they want in this thread.

    Never knew there were people like you..............
     
  6. superman

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    Michel is just LOL in im because he think loosong 1300.00 is funny ?
    offer says:
    lol


    Michel promised a program to teach people how to build money making website not to build them website himself .


    He has done nothing of what he promised ... Michel I only asked for a refund ...

    Not to fight about it ...

    Everyone can look at the 3 sites he build and tell me if no traffic is worth spending money on.. Again I have built sec website for years ...

    Michel if you really back up you product why not refund as drgonzo_
    said. Who wants to buy from you when you won't refund or do as promised .

    People read his post on his product he said he will teach you how to make website that make money !! He never sent me and anything to do with learn a better system on cloaking sites ... That what I paid for Michel ...
     
  7. Michel

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    So why are you taking it here then?
    I filed a claim against you in PayPal, but you can't wait for that to see what PayPal decides.

    And then you say "not to fight about it" but still bring it here.
    Trying to hurt me, because you don't understand what cloaking is and think you can become a millionair in one week.

    Could be me, but I don't think this is normal, so please don't say you are not looking for a fight.

    Because you don't understand something, I will have to suffer.......again strange!
     
  8. pdaguy9

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    Michel,

    Is there a For Sale post he's referencing?
     
  9. Michel

    Michel BANNED BANNED

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    No there isn't.

    He would even pay me the second month but he didn't and now after 5 weeks filing a refund and I have made that to a claim.

    Actually there is only one scammer here, but I will let you all decide.
    I don't think this is normal human behaviour, but then again it could be me......
     
  10. superman

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    Yes there is his post on his cloaking partners
     
  11. DrGonzo

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    What is the post, can we see?
     
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    provide a link. This sounds like a lot of confusion to me. Also sounds like one party was selling one thing and the other party thought they were getting something else.
     
  13. Michel

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    oh so now you paid $4,000? LMAO

    This had NOTHING to do with that site. Just tell us when we started this please..........

    You know what keep trashing me and just keep saying I broke my word.
    Hope you are feeling great about it. I will leave it at that and everybody can post here..... unbelievable!
     
  14. superman

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    Michel you know you I paid before the increase..
    I paid you 1300.00 then I was to paid another 1300.00 later on...

    Funny sunshine was a 3 way partner with us ask him .,..
     
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    Facts on what that I paid 1300.00 ?

    I am warning people dude ....
     
  16. alderous

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    I have worked with Michel now for about a month and couldn't be happier. I have gained more knowledge in the past few weeks then i have in 5 months of trying to learn elsewhere. I really doubt Michel scammed you.. hes been nothing but GREAT HELP for me. I don't know what you are expecting from him? To make you 20,000 a month? get real! Why don't you try putting some effort into the sites as well? cloaking isn't an automatic money making system...
     
  17. DrGonzo

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    Michel what was the service you sold to him?
     
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    Michel sold me on the cloaking partnership ...

    He said buy before 2008 and I will give you a break 1300.00 then another 1300.00
    later on... I had 150 or give or take domains to bring into the pot .
    I then kept asking michel when are you going to do something ...

    2 Weeks went by nothing but promises. I then said michel refund he said here watch I will build a few site watch them get traffic ... Remember I paid him in sept or oct 2007 for one site 500.00 still doesn't get any traffic he said you got 350 hit in feb.. Folks you know hits mean nothing a hit can be image jpg or what ever.....

    Then he said ok let's bring in sunshine we will be 3 way partner ???

    Still nothing but talk again Luther13z I only asked for a refund ....

    I never wanted this... Michel said you want War I give you War ????

    I even trust him with my godaddy account login so we could work together ...
     
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    Superman - please provide a link to what Michel was going to do for you and what you were expecting!

    Right now, you make no sense at all.
     
  20. cabuki

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    show us a paypal reciept screenshot or logs from past emails!
     
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