I think if you did a post on how many people have been ripped off by Michel you might be shocked. Ok michel offered a money making program on your forum. Which now he won't refund .... He said he was making 20,000 - 30,000 a month. So I joined he offered me a discount rate of 1300.00. That was back in Dec 2007 I paid by paypal. So I waited and waited ... Before that 1300.00 I gave him 500.00 to create a sec website (back in Oct 2007 (I have been cloaking for years sec forum I am Chronicles of Dan ) Michel said he had a better way . So he built themedicinestore.com for me .. I got a site that gets 9 real visitor he keeps saying you got 350 hit ?? The man doesn't even know hits mean nothing ??? Well back to the $1300.00 he built me 3 more site that do nothing and has given me no documentation of any kind for creating this money making program. Today I asked for refund he lol and said no .... How long would you wait ? remember his post on War Chest he asked for a refund and got it Is this really the kind of Mod you want on your Forum ?