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Methods involving email submits

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by megaforcetkd, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

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    Hey guys, I was just wondering about something..

    I've read up on a lot of methods that utilize email submits, and have taken steps to implementing them. However, I notice that all of the email submits that I've found include a second page, even though the payout is on the first submit.

    If I manage to make around 30 or 40 bucks a day through email submits and none of the leads continue on to fill out the 2nd page (iframe then redirect), wouldn't this raise suspicion with the AMs?

    Thanks guys.
     
  2. alcapon3

    alcapon3 Junior Member

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    The AM's don't see any 2nd page stats. The advertisers check on conversions, and when they raise a red flag, they contact the affiliate manager or blacklist you. a 0% 2nd page completion is never consistent with legitimate leads. You will lose your CPA accounts. If you're lucky you will just get blacklisted from the email submits.

    Either find a way to get 2nd page completions or mix in real targeted traffic
     
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  3. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

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    So how are all these people running methods utilizing BHCB with email submits?

    Also, do AMs have the ability to actually see the page the iframed offer is sitting on? I finally grasped the concept of referrers but still can't figure out if there's a code or something that shows them the actual page its displayed on.
     
  4. vladdd

    vladdd Newbie

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    I was wondering the same

    For example, using cakeslice, do all the offers complete the way they would normally even though the offer is iframed?
     
  5. gbmack

    gbmack Power Member

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    Change your IP every now and then, clear your cookies, and do the offers yourself.

    Or get real traffic.
     
  6. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

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    I'm in Aussie so changing IP is not an option :(.

    I was planning on running something with 3 email submits, but I guess that's not really an option...

    So about the impression... Can they not see which actual page their form is placed on?
     
  7. oldenstylehats

    oldenstylehats Elite Member Premium Member

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    Horrible, horrible idea.
    Yes.

    They aren't pushing serious traffic without 2nd page submits and that is the truth.
    Simply, the referer is handled on the client-side (i.e. the User's Browser.) If the method you are utilizing to BLANK or (preferably) SPOOF/CLOAK the referer doesn't handle the browser the user is coming on with, then the AM/advertiser will be able to tell where the traffic is actually coming from. If it does properly BLANK or (preferably) SPOOF/CLOAK the referer, then the AM/advertiser CANNOT tell.

    2nd page submits/conversions are ESSENTIAL to actually making any money long term with email submits. Please believe that your leads are being shaved and if they find any reason to question your traffic, they'll slap you. Remember: Their job isn't to get you paid, it is to be paid by the advertiser.
     
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  8. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

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    So I should look for those submits with just an email required? I've looked through my campaigns in Azoogle and MB but can only find 2 page submits, even though payout occurs on the email submit.

    Also, if I use GodCPA the AM will NOT be able to tell WHERE the offer is being iFramed and impressed?
     
  9. lizmoz

    lizmoz Power Member

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    Or look for offers that can be incentivized. These will convert like crap to the advertiser anyway and they're mostly after the e-mail addy. So make sure your customers insert their real e-mail and use incents.

    Find lots of them from InstantDollarz and MB as well.

    And yes, GodCPA can modify the referrer to be blank or spoofed, so it won't be telling your AM where the traffic is actually coming from.
     
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  10. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

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    Yeah I was thinking about using the incentivized offers.

    I think I went around the impression ideal all wrong. I always thought that the AM could see the page that their stuff was actually displayed on, not just where the traffic TO their offer was coming from.

    So basically GodCPA leaves me completely safe :)?