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[Method] Sudo's Churn & Burn For Lead Generation

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by sudorank, Jun 9, 2014.

  1. sudorank

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    This is the original post (To stop content theft): http://www.sudorank.com/sudos-churn-burn-lead-generation/

    For the past 6 months I've been ranking sites in a profitable but less well known UK Finance vertical.

    Nope, not Payday Loans Lmao - I'll leave that to the absolute churn and burn professionals like DoubleUp et al!

    The Results

    For this website I was only interested in one keyword. Sure, I popped up on the grid for other terms but the money shot for me was getting top 5 on my main term:

    Results (On google.co.uk)


    • Day 1 (Page 44)
    • Day 2 (Page 57)
    • Day 3 (Page 24)
    • Day 4 (Page 13)
    • Day 5 (Page 4)
    • Day 6 (Page 3)
    • Day 7 (Page 2)
    • Day 8 (No 9)
    • Day 10 (No 9)
    • Day 11 (No 7)
    • Day 12 (No 6)
    • Day 13 (No 4) <- Target reached in less than 2 weeks!

    Current Rankings

    The site (Or one of it's variants) is currently no 8 in the serps and churning along nicely.

    How I Did It

    There are 3 components to making this type of site work IMHO:

    1. You have to own an aged domain to buffer the link juice, preferably PR3 or something like that.
    2. You have to have a method of building a million links in a week (GSA is my prefered option for this)
    3. You have to have a method of buying new domains and getting the redirects completed quickly.

    Tools Needed



    If you&#8217;re new to GSA please head over to Matthew Woodwards Blog for a superb tutorial on gsa and building out links.


    The Niche

    The main thing about churn and burn is that results can last for anything from a week to a month or two depending on the niche.

    As you can probably guess, the crappier the niche the easier it is to get a churner to stick around.

    In the UK I've found quite a few niches that are good earners:


    • Logbook Loans (Like a payday loan but you place your car as collateral)
    • The Green Deal (A way to get stuff like ECO Boilers and Solar Panels)
    • PPI Leads
    • Personal Injury Leads

    The main thing with any niche is finding a handful of reputable lead gen companies to work with. Many are dodgy as hellso it's worth doing a little bit of legwork to ensure you're getting a good / safe deal.

    How To Rank

    I'm going to use a now defunct example of a lead gen project I did a while back.

    Solar Panel Feed in Tariff (FIT Tariff) Leads. I was selling these leads for £35 a pop for a couple of months and made a fair chunk of money.

    Money Keyword: "Solar Panels" - Roughtly 50,000 searches a month on google.co.uk (Feel free to correct me my memory sucks)

    STEP 1:

    The first thing is the prep our old PR 3 domain. The one thing we don't want is Google indexing this domain at all.


    • Put this domain within it's own hosting account.
    • Add a robots.txt file.
    • Disallow everything.
    • Wait till the domain is completely deranked on Google.

    Let's call this Domain B.

    STEP 2:

    The next step is to purchase a brand new domain, or use an old one you have lying about.


    • Put this domain within it's own hosting account too.
    • Add a .htaccess file.
    • 301 Redirect to domain B

    Let's call this Domain C.

    STEP 3:

    Now we need to buy a new domain, one branded to the product you're selling:

    In my case let's choose: www.feedintariff4u.co.uk


    • Build out a static website and leave space for a lead generation html form.

    Let's call this Domain A.

    STEP 4:

    The nest step is to use a copy of GSA to build a HUGE amount of links to Domain C


    • As an absolute minimum I build 250,000 GSA links to Domain C - the more links you build the more you're likely to success IMHO!
    • Vary the anchor texts, no more than 10% exactly anchor text.
    • Use a service link Lindexed or Linkilicious to index everything up.
    • Try to keep away from Chinese sites to avoid wierd Chinese characters in your link profile.

    For a keyword like "Solar Panels" I would use something like 750,000 links to crack the top 5 and give me a good shot at a no 1 position.

    STEP 5:

    When you're happy with the number of links you have:


    • Redirect Domain B to Domain A
    • Keep building GSA links to ensure success

    The Result

    Using this method your Domain A should begin to rank within a few days.

    It's almost like redirecting a website that already ranked no1 to a new domain. After a few days you'll feel the power being transfered over.
    How Long Will It Last For?

    Eventually, Domain A will get v&nned by Google. The great thing about this method though is the security of the link juice.


    • Your Domain B won't be v&nned.
    • Your Domain C still has a tonne of power.

    Essentially, to get your top 10 position back all you need to do is:


    • Kill Domain A and get it no indexed.
    • Buy a brand new Domain A
    • Redirect Domain B to your new Domain A once you have it ready to go.

    Being Organised Is The Absolute Key Here!

    To really kill with this method you have to be organised.


    • Have new Domain A type sites ready and waiting to flip over.
    • Never leave your Domain B or C available for Google to index.

    The one major piece of information to realise when using this method is this:

    "Google cannot ban a domain if it's not indexed. If it's not indexed it's essentially invisible to Google"

    It's this that makes my method work so well. Aslong as you keep your Domain B & C tucked away from the Google Bots

    I Hope You Found This Useful

    I hope you can use this method to make bank like I have and please visit my blog for more stuff like this!

    I don't bite! :cool:

    Good Luck Everyone!

    Sudo,
     
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  2. Paulie W

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    Very interesting! Thank you for sharing, will def. try it out!
     
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  3. sudorank

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    Cheers Paulie.

    It's definately worth trying this method. It doesn't work in all niches but when you get it going it's unbeatable!
     
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  4. fren99

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    What if we use an aged Domain A? Will the results be same?

    BTW thank you for sharing! :)
     
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    Sometimes I feel that BHW is not the same as it used to be... then I find threads like this!

    SUPERB Post! Thank you very much for sharing this valuable info with us!

    What you have said really makes sense.
     
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  6. sudorank

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    Yep, an aged domain is perfectly fine to use.

    Infact a certain guy (No idea how btw) was using aged domains in the Payday loan niche not that long ago to rank.
     
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    Thanks for sharing this. Just to clarify, you carry on building GSA links for the entirety of the campaign?
     
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  8. sudorank

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    If you want, yes.

    If i'm attacking an unknown niche for the first time i'll keep throwing links at it until it sticks.

    If i know the niche and roughly how much power to tip in then i'll put that amount and leave it.
     
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    so domain c wont be banned even though you blast tons of links with it? you didn't mentioned domain c to removed from google index.
     
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  10. sudorank

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    Domain C will always be 301 redirected to Domain B so should never even see the Google index.

    Hope that helps :)
     
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    Ah!! Good Point here. Thanks for sharing mate. Will try this sometime Soon.
     
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    one of the finest guide ..i came across in several weeks!
     
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  13. miedy

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    I still don't get it, :) you mentioned we can use old domain for domain c, so what if domain c is indexed? do we need to remove it from google first before starting to blast links and 301?

    also is it okay to use old high pr foreign domain names? like chinese, russian etc.?
     
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  14. CriminalMind

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    how many days buildin links i need ? i mean after i reach 250k+ or more should i stop or keep spammin links to domain c ? and thanls for the method can u tell us how much u earned so far from this i know it s none of my business but that just will motivate us
     
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  15. sudorank

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    It's okay miedy, believe me. It's taken a few months to fully build the method and it can be a bit complicated to get right :cool:

    So, Basically you have 3 domains:

    Domain C = A toally fresh domain

    301 Redirected to....

    Domain B = An aged domain that we use to "scrub" the naughty GSA spam PR nice and clean.

    301 Redirected to.....

    Domain A = The moneysite (Can be a brand new, built for purpose domain or perhaps an aged domain if you want)

    Don't feel silly if you don't get it at first, it's a fairly complicated build.

    I guess if you think of Domain A,B & C a bit like the tiers you have with tiered link building. The principle is kinda the same.

    Hope that clears it up a little for you :cool:
     
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    Thanks for the quick reply, good luck with the blog.
     
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    At this point you are keeping Domain B disallowed by search engines? According to Google they should not be able to read redirects int his case
     
  18. sudorank

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    Ye no problems mate, thanks :cool:
     
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    on this ASAP . will update this thread

    Thanks OP
     
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    I guess you can use Scrapebox for this too right ?
     
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