Yzetien
Junior Member
- Jul 23, 2018
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Not sure if anyone here need this, but since I'm too lazy to register at those bitcoin forum and get spammed to death I'd just post it here...
Recently, since the last spike with a faking sign of bearish market at 19/12/18 it's like the damn flood gates are opened and the platform I'm on for p2p trading in cryptocurrency is increasingly filled with god damn idiots that are either trying to scam with increasingly sophisticated techniques, or trying to use you for fraud. In lieu with the recent idiots who attempted pathetically to part my coins from me deceitfully but lost their accounts instead...
What you get for risking? Anywhere between 10% to 50% per trade returns.
Every P2P platform have it's own guidelines to prevent fraud or anti-money laundering, please go back and read the terms and conditions again that you didn't. There won't be any explanations of common knowledge here, more of my twisted verification tactics.
For those that are willing to venture into the darkness,
- Ask for screenshot of the account's previous 12 transactions (Number derived from the amount seen in my screen from my own account, minimum 8). If the previous transactions are either clearly algorithmic, or it adds up to 0, or it adds up to 100% of the amount being offered to trade, or it adds up to approximately 70-80% of the amount being offered to trade, flag that guy and start screwing him with ID verification as explained below.
- Ask for an ID picture, any frauds will definitely be ready with one else it'd be kind that you gently advice that failure to exit his life cleanly for existing meaninglessly.
- Whatever ID sent, as long as it's distinguishable of about 50% or more DO NOT trust any one on the internet. Now, ask for an ID picture but beside the person's face. For a more intense verification, and fun, request it to be taken with a back view of his surroundings.
- (Optional) If prepaid paypal debit user, ask for pictures of the debit card(s) used.
- Now here comes the fun part, you have a picture of the ID alone and the picture of the ID held beside the person face. Now, these are commonly sold in many dark places online, even generated via services if you know where to look. These fools walk around thinking that according to that googled guide they found somewhere it guarantees a green light to anything. Well, now observe the back grounds for both. The ID will usually be placed on a table, or maybe on some files or paper. Now, focusing on the ID... Kindly inform whoever in trade with that the first picture is unclear, please take a picture of it again, held up in-front of the computer /hold it in a position where it's between the door and the camera /etc... If the guy is a fraud, he will either cancel trade immediately, cancel trade after realizing he couldn't produce that for verification, or simply log off in sadness.
- Alternatively, ask for video call verification if you are no fun.
- Never accept Paypal transfers that does not originates from the account's initially available balance, it's completely possible for advanced frauds to acquire several related credit cards that does not have name or address verification and age them to one single account for the final heist. While uncommon, don't take the chances of facing such advisories since most likely they have a solution to break my image verification troll-pwn either by tech, or by manipulation.
- Never allow transfers to your account, send them an invoice instead. Paypal will charge back a transfer to your account as in it's eyes a payment made due to mistakes, or request for refund for a payment made prior to delivery of goods and services are perfectly fine and are the rights of a buyer. Thus, send them an invoice for goods/services/ completed and verified. Paypal do not entertain people who tries to charge back what they pay for after they have received and acknowledged it.
- Avoid kids that send you $1 to $10 transactions, that is called checking their stolen credit cards funds and we are not making a honest living to become their tools for crime. Not to mention that it might lead to your Paypal /bank account's suspension or even indicted depending on where you are.
Final Ultimatum
- This involves a tiny bit of engineered perspective against the other party, just ask them - Hey, are you free I'd call you in five minutes from your number in <platform name> for a quick chat alright?
- No, there isn't any numbers visible to you. But, usually they won't know that and simply cancel the trade
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Trends that Red-Flag immediately
- Account verified and have many transfers with stupid usernames like 13dkfa831, 134 nkjadfjdak. No Bitcoin traders use such names, we are more or less minimally educated and can spell a proper name like Jennifer1990.
- Accounts inter-verified each other over a span of a few different accounts, or technically speaking at a first-degree basis have many related verification and vouches. It's unlikely a buyer or seller will go to everyone for purchase, and rate the same words for all.
- Any trans-national remittance, why will someone buy from you when they can buy locally. The safest platform for remit is Azimo the rest are highly doubtful of the legitimacy of funds.
Case Study 1
Sending me threats about money laundering not really working, I adhere perfectly to both platform and my country's laws and regulations. Thus, this imbecile tried on the p2p platform's chat threatening about doxing me and summoning his influence in my country's local mafia...? to rain terror and sorrows upon me. After that, he silently faded upon receiving links to my Facebook, Twitter and Instagram profiles as I am a kind person and tried to offer assistance to his dox attempt... Basically, laugh at them no matter what they say, but if you are in more dangerous cities do check that your glock or whatever is loaded. I don't think anyone can send swat teams up your houses even in the US anymore.
I tried to assist his dreams since he didn't even managed to get the correct bank I use in his note.
Case Study 2
For bank transfers, I'd include a very interesting example of my personal experience that I actually sent the scammer a review in Telegram for his scamming techniques since it's reasonably sophiscated and felt like a piece of carefully executed artwork touching on areas including exploiting a human's greed, preying on the soft side of human nature by pretending to be robbed in a city not far from me and left stranded with only his phone left to conduct bank transfer for bitcoins to cash out as his atm card is loot for the robbery. Then tried to force a preliminary release of bitcoins to him before the "funds" actually hit my bank which will take a couple of days by declaring his wife's utmost need to go hospital for a check up before flying off the same night, sadly I'm highly familiar with airport related security and it was funny. The rest of his mistakes are more or less explanatory in my review for him, I must say Ukrainian did put a better show compared to those 401 email legends.
Recently, since the last spike with a faking sign of bearish market at 19/12/18 it's like the damn flood gates are opened and the platform I'm on for p2p trading in cryptocurrency is increasingly filled with god damn idiots that are either trying to scam with increasingly sophisticated techniques, or trying to use you for fraud. In lieu with the recent idiots who attempted pathetically to part my coins from me deceitfully but lost their accounts instead...
What you get for risking? Anywhere between 10% to 50% per trade returns.
Every P2P platform have it's own guidelines to prevent fraud or anti-money laundering, please go back and read the terms and conditions again that you didn't. There won't be any explanations of common knowledge here, more of my twisted verification tactics.
For those that are willing to venture into the darkness,
- Ask for screenshot of the account's previous 12 transactions (Number derived from the amount seen in my screen from my own account, minimum 8). If the previous transactions are either clearly algorithmic, or it adds up to 0, or it adds up to 100% of the amount being offered to trade, or it adds up to approximately 70-80% of the amount being offered to trade, flag that guy and start screwing him with ID verification as explained below.
- Ask for an ID picture, any frauds will definitely be ready with one else it'd be kind that you gently advice that failure to exit his life cleanly for existing meaninglessly.
- Whatever ID sent, as long as it's distinguishable of about 50% or more DO NOT trust any one on the internet. Now, ask for an ID picture but beside the person's face. For a more intense verification, and fun, request it to be taken with a back view of his surroundings.
- (Optional) If prepaid paypal debit user, ask for pictures of the debit card(s) used.
- Now here comes the fun part, you have a picture of the ID alone and the picture of the ID held beside the person face. Now, these are commonly sold in many dark places online, even generated via services if you know where to look. These fools walk around thinking that according to that googled guide they found somewhere it guarantees a green light to anything. Well, now observe the back grounds for both. The ID will usually be placed on a table, or maybe on some files or paper. Now, focusing on the ID... Kindly inform whoever in trade with that the first picture is unclear, please take a picture of it again, held up in-front of the computer /hold it in a position where it's between the door and the camera /etc... If the guy is a fraud, he will either cancel trade immediately, cancel trade after realizing he couldn't produce that for verification, or simply log off in sadness.
- Alternatively, ask for video call verification if you are no fun.
- Never accept Paypal transfers that does not originates from the account's initially available balance, it's completely possible for advanced frauds to acquire several related credit cards that does not have name or address verification and age them to one single account for the final heist. While uncommon, don't take the chances of facing such advisories since most likely they have a solution to break my image verification troll-pwn either by tech, or by manipulation.
- Never allow transfers to your account, send them an invoice instead. Paypal will charge back a transfer to your account as in it's eyes a payment made due to mistakes, or request for refund for a payment made prior to delivery of goods and services are perfectly fine and are the rights of a buyer. Thus, send them an invoice for goods/services/ completed and verified. Paypal do not entertain people who tries to charge back what they pay for after they have received and acknowledged it.
- Avoid kids that send you $1 to $10 transactions, that is called checking their stolen credit cards funds and we are not making a honest living to become their tools for crime. Not to mention that it might lead to your Paypal /bank account's suspension or even indicted depending on where you are.
Final Ultimatum
- This involves a tiny bit of engineered perspective against the other party, just ask them - Hey, are you free I'd call you in five minutes from your number in <platform name> for a quick chat alright?
- No, there isn't any numbers visible to you. But, usually they won't know that and simply cancel the trade
. Trends that Red-Flag immediately
- Account verified and have many transfers with stupid usernames like 13dkfa831, 134 nkjadfjdak. No Bitcoin traders use such names, we are more or less minimally educated and can spell a proper name like Jennifer1990.
- Accounts inter-verified each other over a span of a few different accounts, or technically speaking at a first-degree basis have many related verification and vouches. It's unlikely a buyer or seller will go to everyone for purchase, and rate the same words for all.
- Any trans-national remittance, why will someone buy from you when they can buy locally
. The safest platform for remit is Azimo the rest are highly doubtful of the legitimacy of funds. Case Study 1
Sending me threats about money laundering not really working, I adhere perfectly to both platform and my country's laws and regulations. Thus, this imbecile tried on the p2p platform's chat threatening about doxing me and summoning his influence in my country's local mafia...? to rain terror and sorrows upon me. After that, he silently faded upon receiving links to my Facebook, Twitter and Instagram profiles as I am a kind person and tried to offer assistance to his dox attempt... Basically, laugh at them no matter what they say, but if you are in more dangerous cities do check that your glock or whatever is loaded. I don't think anyone can send swat teams up your houses even in the US anymore.
I tried to assist his dreams since he didn't even managed to get the correct bank I use in his note.
Case Study 2
For bank transfers, I'd include a very interesting example of my personal experience that I actually sent the scammer a review in Telegram for his scamming techniques since it's reasonably sophiscated and felt like a piece of carefully executed artwork touching on areas including exploiting a human's greed, preying on the soft side of human nature by pretending to be robbed in a city not far from me and left stranded with only his phone left to conduct bank transfer for bitcoins to cash out as his atm card is loot for the robbery. Then tried to force a preliminary release of bitcoins to him before the "funds" actually hit my bank which will take a couple of days by declaring his wife's utmost need to go hospital for a check up before flying off the same night, sadly I'm highly familiar with airport related security and it was funny. The rest of his mistakes are more or less explanatory in my review for him, I must say Ukrainian did put a better show compared to those 401 email legends.