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[METHOD] Complementary betting

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  1. Fragmaster

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    Complementary betting

    how to cheat cheaters

    how to cash in incentives betting houses are giving
    they HOPE you'll lose it, they NEED you to lose it, but TODAY you'll learn how not to



    DISCLAIMER :
    This is blackhat. This breaks TOS of betting sites. Betting sites know about this, and they made great deal of effort to make it hard to pull. However this is not unscrupulous. They want your money , you want their money , natural friction exist here. If i was a casino , i would kick out winners too. However you will not be breaking any serious RULES OR LAW.

    It's possible that you guys have heard similar stuff before, i don't hold any patents, i just want to help guys who are in desperate need for few hundred $ , to pay rent and stay afloat. I will not put any affiliate links here, i will not put any betting house name, and this will be discussed in DOMAIN of THEORY.

    I'm not responsible if betting house is not reputable or refuse to cash out your winnings. This will be discussed in RISK paragraph.



    INTRO:

    Complementary betting is betting on every outcome of SAME event/match. In further text i will talk about football , but it applies to all sports.

    You do not need to know much about sport itself, teams participating, their forms, players.However you need to know some specifics.Those specifics are including ONLY rules of draw matches, how are those handled , extra times , penalties etc... Importance is to have every outcome covered, and every payout calibrated to be same. If every outcome is same, and there are 3 possible outcomes, it won't matter much which outcome it was.

    There is no risk involving picking wrong winner, as i will explain , outcome of event chosen is NOT important.

    INVESTMENT
    You will need to add starting funds. Most of signups double your starting funds, and if you do not use full bonus on first load , you might not be able to do it later.Better to find betting house with smaller bonus cap,and save bigger for when you can utilize it fully. After payout you will end up with more cash than you paid.

    Elimination of outcome importance:

    You will bet 3 times on same game. You will bet in 3 DIFFERENT betting houses. You will have 3 accounts, as this needs to be maintained separate.
    HOME/DRAW/AWAY or in some countries 1 X 2 are names of bet choice.


    you bet HOME (1) in 1st house for X dollars. if u pass this , u'll get D dollars.
    you bet DRAW (x) in 2nd house for Y dollars. if u pass this , u'll get D dollars.
    you bet AWAY (2) in 3rd house for Z dollars. if u pass this , u'll get D dollars.

    You will win 1 bet and lose 2 , obviously.

    Aftermath:
    You bet X+Y+Z
    You gained D

    Who is more familiar with betting , will know that X+Y+Z> D , and that you lost 5-10% in this bet.

    Why would you bet and lose?

    It's simple , this will make possible to FULFILL betting house conditions of FREE BONUS cashout, that you need to use your capital few times.

    Free bonus usually doubles your sign up investment , with hard cap. IF cap is 50e , and you load your account with 50e , they will give you 100e.

    Imagine that you found 3 betting houses, that don't have same owner , with largest SIGNUP FREE BONUSES. Bonuses and loaded cash don't have to be exactly same , but 3 accounts with balanced funds makes choices easier.

    What choices you may ask? Only choice will be game you are betting on. Well some games have bigger house edge, some have smaller.This is not crucial, but i will add it in update.

    Choices will be obvious when i explain what a FLOW is.


    FLOW


    Flow is your current state of 3 accounts involved.

    You start with accounts with A,B,C total cash respectively.
    You invested A/2 + B/2 + C/2 , betting houses provided with rest
    After first bet , your accounts might look :

    first account : A-X1
    second account :B-Y1
    third account: C-Z1+D1

    After second:

    A-X1-X2
    B-Y1-Y2+D2
    C-Z1+D1-Z2

    As you can see you cannot exactly choose where funds end up.It's important that you have some funds in every account at all times. Why? if 1 account dries up , you cannot pick all 3 outcomes, and you'll be forced to switch to 2-outcome sport to cover all outcomes,and that must be saved for wierd moments.When account is dangerously low, always pick a match where you can use low funds account on outsider - that way it burns slower, giving you enough time to turn around all cash for payout.



    You can play ALL-IN style, you can play it as small as you like to build credibility of your account .Smaller bets, smaller total loss will be (5-10% as i said earlier). After every game , you will lose X+Y+Z ,and gain D dollars.
    Just be sure to:
    Fulfill payout conditions on all 3 accounts OR
    Fulfill payout conditions on 1 account and make sure that all money end up in it.

    How to calculate numbers X Y and Z when you pick match that you like?

    There are 2 ways to display quotas , fraction and decimal . I will help with both.

    I will have 1 simplified example first with generous quotas

    Home : 2 (decimal) 1/1 (fraction)
    Draw: 3 (decimal) 2/1 (fraction)
    Away: 6 (decimal) 5/1 (fraction)

    So if i bet 3 dollars on 1st outcome, 2 dollars on 2nd outcome and 1 dollar on 3rd ,i will always lose total 6 dollars , and gain 6 dollars.But i don't know where those 6 dollars will end up .

    my accounts would change like this in case of Home team winning:


    A-3+6= A+3
    B-2
    C-1

    My total sum didn't change , but reason for this is too generous quotas used in example.

    If you look at decimal quotas ,its easy to figure out how i pick my bets .
    Q1 , Q2 , Q3

    1/Q1 , 1/Q2 , 1/Q3 are defining proportion how to distribute my bets.
    If i want to win D , i must bet

    D/Q1= 6/2=3
    D/Q2= 6/3=2
    D/Q3= 6/6=1

    I can make calculator for all this if ur not math savvy .

    CONCLUSION
    You'll need several matches played to qualify for payout
    Every match burns your total money pool for around 0.05 of D
    You start with doubled money and expect to lose some in several matches you bet on.
    Game of chance is eliminated.
    This is shortterm method, betting houses will let you register only once, milk each house once.
    Betting houses can compare account info to hunt you down . If they catch you betting on all, they can cancel your payouts.

    HOW TO TRANSFER IT ALL TO 1 ACC and CASH OUT

    If you need all cash to end up in one account, find a match that will have your current cash A, B, and C equal to one betting game bets X,Y,Z .

    A=X
    B=Y
    C=Z

    After that 2 accounts will be empty.

    to be continued...
    more on RISKS INVOLVED AND BETTING HOUSE TOS
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    Too risky.... how much money have you made with this method?
     
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    Hello, i have made around 500 euro . Easiest money ever. But you cannot repeat it , as you need to find new sites all the time , or to search for methods to fake your identities, use multiple CC and IP. Currently i don't it, but keep it for rainy days.

    Which part is risky exactly? I'm mentioning risks only to cover reckless and greedy people who use this. What is obvious to me , might not be obvious to everybody.

    Read any betting site TOS. They mention this in DOZEN of paragraphs. Why? Because that's their weakness. They ban countries, they limit users per IP ,per household per CC , this is proven method, but its bullet they bite. Im just showing that bullet.
     
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    You want hundreds of bookie offers. Sign up through one of my websites, I know who will win.
     
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    Hello.
    Thanks for your useless post. For your harmful betting guru talk. For equating me with charlatans. I don't see any links posted, or any prediction or winner picking involved here.
     
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    Don't mention it mate, just glad I could help.
     
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    FAQ :

    Q: - Why 3 accounts , why not single account?
    A: - Same bookie won't let you bet multiple outcomes of same match. It is important that only you have whole picture. Bookies will see you as regular users, and will not figure out that you are not risking your money. Risk is their ALLY , and they rely on it.

    Q: - Why different owners? why shouldn't i just use 1 site with 3 accounts?
    A: - they can cross-reference bets and bust you. You must play on weak communication between houses , so they can't figure out you're milking them.

    Q: - How to calculate X, Y, Z and D ?
    A:

    X+Y+Z=BET
    X*Q1=Y*Q2=Z*Q3=D

    X=D/Q1
    Y=D/Q2
    Z=D/Q3


    D=BET/(1/Q1+1/Q2+1/Q3)

    Why i use letter D? its short of dollars :D

    D=BET *0.93 , where house edge could be 5% or 7% you can calculate it based on quotas given

    house edge =1 - 1/(1/Q1+1/Q2+1/Q3)

    House edge example :

    Quotas for match : H/D/A , 1/X/2 :
    2.5 3 3 (decimal) 3/2 2/1 2/1 (fractional)
    house edge =1- 1/(0.4 + 0.33 + 0.33)= 1- 1/1.06 = 1 - 0.943= 0.057 (5.7% for this match)

    This way you can calculate your burning amount, its equal to house edge * your payment.
    Play games with smaller house edge, its not always constant .
     
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    Look up on matched betting / arbitrage betting if you want a much cleaner explanation - just an advice :)
     
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    You are not "milking" any bookie. Because one bookie will win, one will lose. The fact that you win or lose is irrelevant to either bookie is irrelevant.
     
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    Stop posting here, because you clearly have no idea what are you talking about. You will take all betting bonuses from all 3 accounts, regardless of any single match played. Its not about single match,its about result of series. After serie is complete , you will withdraw all 3 sign up bonuses , with minimal losses.
     
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    The risk/reward scale on this makes it not worth it. It is called surebetting for a reason, but the only sure thing is the spread that you can calculate.

    You pretty much never get a spread of more than 5% in profits. Which means, to make any decent money you need to make huge bets. The gambling platforms work together on this and they will notice your accounts at some point and take ALL money on it.

    Unless you can evade them for the 20-30 bets it takes before you have covered the loss of just one account, you will not profit. The gamle in this strategy is not the bets themselves but how long the mouse can evade the rat.
     
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    Let me simplify this for you. You have two bookies, let's say BetFred and Ladbrokes. There is a two horse race. One bookie you put one horse on, and the other, the other horse. No matter the outcome, you are not cheating the bookies, because the other bet has fuck all to do with the other bookie.
     
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    This is good perspective. Risks involved are not about bets, its about them not paying you out. But thats where joint venture twist comes in . If you have a RL friend who can complement your bets, there is nothing to be caught. Because you are not 1 person in their logs.
     
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    Although, I am interested to do online betting, but only things holding me back are '' Illegality associated with betting & Second one being Unable to afford initial investment , may be, if i do it in future , i'll use your tips too

    But still i admire your Brilliant Post on betting, covering hidden aspects to make money from it
     
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    I'm sure they can still detect you no matter the name on the account. This is not a new strategy and it is a pattern they can recognize. If it works for you then great, personally I wouldn't wanna take the risk.
     
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    In joint venture option i announced on end of original post , if you cooperate with someone you trust , its not just name on account that protects you. Its different name, IP , credit cards, cookies, everything. And if match is popular, for example Premier league derby , you cannot be caught.
     
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    You are not milking them on bet itself. You are milking them for their SIGNUP bonus, which they calculate you will lose alongside your hard earned cash. This method is about completing their rules and conditions about cashing out. Gambling itself is stupid and not profitable. Please reread this or similar articles on internet first, and then comment.

    TLDR of this method to avoid confusion :

    Betting site has a flashy banner that gives you $20 bonus if you chip in with your $20 . You do that . You do safest possible risk free stuff you can imagine , and lose lets say $5 on house edge while achieving their conditions. You cash-out $35.

    Its about dodging conditions, not betting itself.
     
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    I'm sorry for reading troubles, English isn't my native language. My intention is to help BHW fellas. Feel free to comment and add valuable suggestions, and external souces. As i said i don't hold any patents, this thing is real. If this helps anyone it was worth writing it .
     
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    Example :
    Lets say you found 3 sites , each has 50e bonus sign up .
    You invest 50e in each of them.

    Now all 3 accounts have 100e . I will use following notation for that (100 100 100) means that you have 100 euro in 1st,2nd and 3rd account respectively.

    There is match comming up :

    SK Sturm Graz - RB Salzburg
    23.07.16 18:30

    3.27 3.40 2.08

    I want D=100 for my first payout.
    X=100/3.27=30.58
    Y=100/3.4=29.4
    Z=100/2.08=48,07

    X+Y+Z=108.05.

    I need to spend 108 euro total , and i will surely get 100 euro. I will lose 8euro on house edge.

    In case of Sturm Graz winning i will have (169,42 70.6 51.93) which is total of 292 euro
    In case of a draw i will have ( 69.42 170.6 51.93) = 292
    In case of Salzburg win i will have ( 69.42 70.6 151.93) = 292

    So far i have 150 e real money invested, and my account balance is 292 , so I am at +142 atm.

    I repeat process several times ,losing 5-9 euro per match until i meet bookie requirement.

    I cashout.

    What happens if one account gets all the cash lets say i end up at ( 30 40 210) at particular moment?

    Use match that has favourite.

    Example:

    Scotland, League Cup, Tip

    Dundee FC - Dumbarton FC 23.07.16 16:00 1.20 5.23 9.76

    I will use 210 euro account to bet on dundee FC , and 2 poor account to bet on outsider

    I want D=100

    X=100/1.2 = 83.3
    Y=100/5.23=19.12
    Z=100/9.76=10.25

    X is used from 210 acc , Y from 40 ,Z from 30
    After placing bet :
    (30-10.25 40-19.12 210-83.3)
    (19.75 20.88 126.67)

    Depending on outcome ,one of 3 variants will happen
    (119.75 20.88 126.67)
    (19.75 120.88 126.67)
    (19.75 20.88 226.67)

    I lost 12 euro here. Do your research and play games where you lose less on house edge. Balanced matches have smaller house edge.
     
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