So I've been a member of BHW for about 2 months now and I got a lot of ideas from the forum. I've been plugging away and I finally got a call back from a potential client who needs website design and SEO services. I plan to outsource all the work if I clinch the contract. I just wanted to know how I should prepare myself for the meeting, what points I should keep in mind. Also any links where I can outsource the SEO & web design (not too expensive) would be appreciated. The niche has very low competition so am considering using fiverr.
Meeting my first seo client tomorrow
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Theelenny
First thing which you should do is to talk about non-work related stuff for 5 minutes.
Dress professionally..This will create good first-time impression.
Don't try to woo him by using technical jagron, rather show him what you could do...
For example, inform him about latest SEO stuff like Google authorship, page speed, star rating and tell him you will be doing all this things to ensure he stays ahead in the crowd....
Listen to your client carefully, and try to understand how much he knows, and how much he needs to be educated...Do remember, your goal and only goal is to turn him into the client...
Best of luck!!
First thing which you should do is to talk about non-work related stuff for 5 minutes.
Dress professionally..This will create good first-time impression.
Don't try to woo him by using technical jagron, rather show him what you could do...
For example, inform him about latest SEO stuff like Google authorship, page speed, star rating and tell him you will be doing all this things to ensure he stays ahead in the crowd....
Listen to your client carefully, and try to understand how much he knows, and how much he needs to be educated...Do remember, your goal and only goal is to turn him into the client...
Best of luck!!
netmoney1
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It would be a good idea to know exactly what you re selling before you meet the client right???
How are you going to know what prices and options to offer clients if you still aren't sure of what you are going to be offering.
You will be shooting yourself in the foot if you go in not prepared.
How are you going to know what prices and options to offer clients if you still aren't sure of what you are going to be offering.
You will be shooting yourself in the foot if you go in not prepared.
igniteimages
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I'd suggest you cancel the meeting as you clearly don't know what you are doing.
You have no idea what effect the SEO services will have so may potentially just fuck up someone's business.
You have no idea what effect the SEO services will have so may potentially just fuck up someone's business.
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buckyaustin
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When in an interview it is much harder to lie to the person, so just try to sell yourself and the abilities you have. Don't oversell yourself. You don't want to seem desperate, but you want to show that you care for his/her business and the outcomes he/she want's.
Also throw in something extra for free that will just sweeten the deal for him/her.
Good luck OP.
Also throw in something extra for free that will just sweeten the deal for him/her.
Good luck OP.
Seo-Devil
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i do not recommend to use fiver as full seo service
Find cheapest seo provider, but with some reputation in here on sales thread
And place +50% and will make some money and get some skills
Otherwise if they will find it works you can offer more powerful seo
they will be happy to pay more get better service resell...
But it just my opinion....
Find cheapest seo provider, but with some reputation in here on sales thread
And place +50% and will make some money and get some skills
Otherwise if they will find it works you can offer more powerful seo
they will be happy to pay more get better service resell...
But it just my opinion....
cheekykent
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see you tomorrow at 1pm mate
netmoney1
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There are better ways to get your required posts to PM...this is just blatant crap. Quality posts is the key phrase here...
YellowBoi
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everyone has said it already but i'll say it as well, SERIOUSLY? FIVERR? your're going to risk your reputation, or lack of it with your first client by outsourcing to FIVERR?
To be honest, I would cancel because no real seo that works for clients is going to outsource everything, yeah maybe some graphic designs etc but not everything. I had already done 2 years of building my own sites and ranking before I even took on my first client, and the only thing I outsourced was the photoshop stuff, everything else I done myself, cos frankly if anyone goes wrong with the site you can't really be running back and forth with your outsourcers.
Let me ask you something, do you even know how to build a properly structured site? or what about onpage seo is? and if you think it's just title tags, meta tags, then clearly you haven't a clue about seo. If the client knows a thing or two he will see right through you.
Also, what sites have you ranked? sites that you have built? you'll need to show all this via a laptop to your client, to prove to him that you can do what you say. It's no point turning up with a pen and paper cos frankly that just won't cut it.
SOURCE: My own experience.
To be honest, I would cancel because no real seo that works for clients is going to outsource everything, yeah maybe some graphic designs etc but not everything. I had already done 2 years of building my own sites and ranking before I even took on my first client, and the only thing I outsourced was the photoshop stuff, everything else I done myself, cos frankly if anyone goes wrong with the site you can't really be running back and forth with your outsourcers.
Let me ask you something, do you even know how to build a properly structured site? or what about onpage seo is? and if you think it's just title tags, meta tags, then clearly you haven't a clue about seo. If the client knows a thing or two he will see right through you.
Also, what sites have you ranked? sites that you have built? you'll need to show all this via a laptop to your client, to prove to him that you can do what you say. It's no point turning up with a pen and paper cos frankly that just won't cut it.
SOURCE: My own experience.
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Wilson Grant Fisk
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OP, if outsourcing to Fiverr is your idea of SEO then you should change your user-name to TheLooney
buckybrendan
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don't go and make a bad reputation by outsourcing to fiver. use reputable seo services here on bhw. there are plenty in the marketplace. Your first client may come back if you do get a reputable seo service or they may go and talk about "your" great knowledge and service, bringing you more clients. your first client is crucial.
also there is low cost reputable website designers here as well. you want to make your service appear as the best that the client could find and make the price they are willing to pay more worth while. leave them with the feeling that their money was spent wisely. you will benefit from doing so and so will the client.
if you use a low rep seo service you may end up sinking your business plan in the water before it even begins.
when or if you meet the client make sure that you have studied about their business so that you can pretend to care about their business and also have a good depth of knowledge about it.
also only dress up a bit more than you normally do. that way you don't appear desperate for their money and uncomfortable in the clothing you are wearing.
also best of luck op. hope you get the client's business and take everyone's advice here about outsourcing.
also there is low cost reputable website designers here as well. you want to make your service appear as the best that the client could find and make the price they are willing to pay more worth while. leave them with the feeling that their money was spent wisely. you will benefit from doing so and so will the client.
if you use a low rep seo service you may end up sinking your business plan in the water before it even begins.
when or if you meet the client make sure that you have studied about their business so that you can pretend to care about their business and also have a good depth of knowledge about it.
also only dress up a bit more than you normally do. that way you don't appear desperate for their money and uncomfortable in the clothing you are wearing.
also best of luck op. hope you get the client's business and take everyone's advice here about outsourcing.
mysterysolver
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I think you should try some seo services from BHW and not from fiverr.good luck with your first client,i hope for the best
Just wanted to leave something that might get you going (Plus what twitter.followers have already mentioned).
We already know you'r a noob (you'r not alone, belive me I know nothing about IM) at this but getting the meeting is already a starting point, i don't think you should cancel the meeting, if you don't go you'll never know what it would happened, plus you'll learn more if you go and make mistakes than not going at all.
If you've read over most of the threads people here tries to inspire everyone to take action, so good for you, happy you've made at least part of it, now comes the hard part (for some of us).
That's the Business 101: Selling, for me it's an art, but still nothing that can't be thought, and the best way you can at least test the waters and start thinking about closing the deal is "What's you'r client looking for?"
He already wanted to talk with you, so you've done something right on that part, now imagine you'r him, imagine you'r the owner or manager of the business you'll meet tomorrow. What would you ask if you were him?
Doing this you'll try to understand the needs, what he might be looking for and start targeting that. Do some research about other businesses related to the niche and see what they are doing.
Write down what you have imagined he might ask you and above it all try to get answers to all those questions, doesn't need to be technical language, try to understand if you'd buy that service for yourself if you were the one buying..
Be honest about it and on a face to face conversation my advise is to forget the fake it till you make it, because that will only bring bad business for you in the future.
Hope this helped and try to be as calm and prepared as you can, a good night rest is always advised too.
Once again, Congratulations on taking the action and hope you close the deal, don't forget to keep us posted on it.
Good luck,
Cheers
We already know you'r a noob (you'r not alone, belive me I know nothing about IM) at this but getting the meeting is already a starting point, i don't think you should cancel the meeting, if you don't go you'll never know what it would happened, plus you'll learn more if you go and make mistakes than not going at all.
If you've read over most of the threads people here tries to inspire everyone to take action, so good for you, happy you've made at least part of it, now comes the hard part (for some of us).
That's the Business 101: Selling, for me it's an art, but still nothing that can't be thought, and the best way you can at least test the waters and start thinking about closing the deal is "What's you'r client looking for?"
He already wanted to talk with you, so you've done something right on that part, now imagine you'r him, imagine you'r the owner or manager of the business you'll meet tomorrow. What would you ask if you were him?
Doing this you'll try to understand the needs, what he might be looking for and start targeting that. Do some research about other businesses related to the niche and see what they are doing.
Write down what you have imagined he might ask you and above it all try to get answers to all those questions, doesn't need to be technical language, try to understand if you'd buy that service for yourself if you were the one buying..
Be honest about it and on a face to face conversation my advise is to forget the fake it till you make it, because that will only bring bad business for you in the future.
Hope this helped and try to be as calm and prepared as you can, a good night rest is always advised too.
Once again, Congratulations on taking the action and hope you close the deal, don't forget to keep us posted on it.
Good luck,
Cheers
IProvideSEO
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I would experiment more with your own websites and learn how to do this more before you go out and sell people $100's of dollars a month on a service you provide.
You will lose customers quick and waste time and money if you don't know how to get real results that provide value
You will lose customers quick and waste time and money if you don't know how to get real results that provide value
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