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Maybe It's Just Not For Me?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Elin Dotsya, May 19, 2017.

  1. Elin Dotsya

    Elin Dotsya Junior Member

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    I'm confused. When does IM (any aspect of it) start becoming enjoyable? I hear many members talking about how much they love programming/marketing/SEO, or whatever. I find all of it so dull. I especially don't enjoy spamming. I don't get all this talk about people being motivated and doing the best they can when I'm at the point where I think to myself, "was that 9-to-5 really worse than this??"

    So far, I'm not able to find an answer that is satisfactory.

    I want to achieve success, but I also want to actually love and/or enjoy what I'm doing. It feels like a chore to me. What can be done about this and what is the alternative? There's gotta be something that I can do.

    I've swallowed the "alternative energy" pill of the business world. All those promises of a better life, the temptation of not being some corporate slave, and being fooled into believing that IM will free me from mediocrity. It hasn't. Not yet...

    But when??


    So far, I can't figure out what I'm doing here other than chasing a dream that is always just out of reach but never quite there. No matter which method I choose - I end up forcing myself to go deeper only to feel completely unsatisfied. Much of this online work seems empty to me. Sure you bring in the money, but it's like so... unreal... unnatural?? One of those words. Maybe intangible would be more accurate.
    Most of the time I seriously don't understand what I'm doing. This noggin of mine can't see shit when it comes to creativity and innovation. Whenever some of you guys write about how you achieved success I can't help but wonder how to think the way you do. You are all a mystery to me.
     
  2. ScribScribScrib

    ScribScribScrib Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    get yourself a Kindle account and start writing, might not make you any Money but it'll be fun, you can also try and sell your content here, I find it fun to write for Money!
    I suggest you start writing erotica, you could earn some serious cash with it for sure!
     
  3. redarrow

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    Read all the money methods see what looks intresting and somethink your like doing .

    Once you do that then start the method .
    Good luck

    Ps . All the spamming and silly jobs use a pa or a bot.
     
  4. Mr. Burnham

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    Nobody loves spamming. You will enjoy IM once you start making enough money to have leisure time. When you are under pressure, you can't enjoy what you are doing. My advice is this, keep experimenting till you find a method that allows you to have free time.
     
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  5. AceWallGromit

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    Unplug your computer and go out into the real world. There's a million fun things to do to earn a living beyond the internet.

    Don't get sucked into the IM rabbit hole. Most people who say the want to break away from the 9 to 5 slavery are just not bright enough to make it in the real world so they create their own internet IM world but become slaves in a different way.

    Go out and make something real for yourself.

    Its ok to have a "real job" despite what everyone says.
     
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    You know you're going to earn $$$$, how can it not to be enjoyable.
     
  7. Blakester

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    IM is one of the ways (if not the only way as of yet in 2017) that you can actually make money by creating content about stuff you love with minimum to almost no money requirements - hosting, site.

    It's really easy to get overwhelmed with all those methods lurking around. I've been there and I know how it feels to start 2-3 methods at once, only to go crazy not knowing what to do next.

    The key is simple: Learn the principles (email marketing, capturing leads, social promotion tips) and then focus on creating content on what you LOVE DOING. This will keep your mind sane, targeted and most important you'll enjoy IM.
     
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    I don't like it, to-be-honest. I hate browsers, their languages and the disastrous implementations of them.I get seriously stressed about it. I prefer other object oriented languages but, oh, boy, I've been planning/executing this protect for over three years now, I'm not gonna drop it.

    If you aren't as involved as I am, maybe try changing what you do, but still online. For example, there's a huge difference between a blogger, a programmer, a video producer, a store retailer, etc.
     
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    As I've always told u - writing is your strongest suit and it doesn't bore you. So writing content would be the best thing for you. Start writing content for people, make books , hire people and scale up by making your own agency ? Who knows - possibilities are endless. Wish you good luck for your future ventures
     
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  10. bigvision

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    Your writing is insanely nice and right there is an asset you can utilize. If I was you I'd get enough clients for writing and charge a price enough to satisfy the client. Later on though raise the price most of the time you can get a raise. Writing clients are also great to upsell on with anything. I remember one client mentioned Instagram in the writing requirements and guess what I did? I asked who manages their Instagram and simple offered to do exactly what they were doing for cheaper.

    But you need to relax with these type of questions
     
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    Use the methods and techniques to sell things you are interested in.
     
  12. Carlos TV

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    Come on man! Who told you that this was an easy thing to do?

    You have to do this cause you believe in what aRe you doing. If you don't want to something, stop doing it and think in what makes you happy.

    Here you can find many white SEO methods. Use what you like and more importantly, enjoy doing it!
     
  13. gman777

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    There's no such thing as not being for you. Being an IM means being a creator. And creating something is consuming and not very pleasing.

    Not to mention that there's the learning curve which is annoying no matter how much you enjoy doing that thing. For example: I play this video game called LOL, and I'd play it until dead, or until my dopamine/adrenaline deplets to the point where I can't even move the mouse/I don't feel any joy playing it.

    But, god... learning the ropes to play it effectively? Not a chance. I get bored so easily.

    So, imo creating something it's not necessarily enjoyable, it's more like just doing it. The most important thing however, is to avoid distractions.

    Anything from social media, video games to movies/cartoons.

    Are you still watching that anime right?With that gamer girl drinking unhealthy food? If it's the most thing that you watch, then stop it. After a couple days -> 1 week, if you'd try to watch it, you wouldn't feel the same joy as you'd now. Why? Because that's how our brain works, I'm not getting into details.

    Not to mention that your productivity will increase trendemously.

    You probably won't even understand what I'm saying, I wasn't when I was in your place(yeah I was in your exact spot but I was watching Naruto), but do it, and you may get it.

    TL;DR Stop doing things that are distracting you. Anything that hook you emotionally!
     
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  14. Elin Dotsya

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    I've had a Kindle account but couldn't get anything to sell. Not that it really bothers me. Erotica? Lol, no thanks.

    I have and none of them were interesting in the slightest. I have been lurking here for years. There's a pretty good chance that I read most of the methods already.

    Because money is a piece of paper. I've been in that position once where I could walk into any store of my choice and buy whatever I wanted. It didn't motivate me then and it's still much the same.

    I have learned those things. I still don't enjoy IM. Hmm, there are a few things that I enjoy, but they have little to do with IM, as far as I'm aware.

    The "interested in" part is what I'm struggling with.

    Marketers and a shit-ton of gurutards. I don't believe in what I'm doing. It all feels empty and pointless to me. You know what makes me happy? Video games and music. I would love to just sit there all day and have fun, lol. Nature and history interest me, as well.

    I've only ever tried LoL once and the queue was about 1 or 2 hours 30 mins long, so I dropped it. I'm sure there are "proper ways" to learn it, but then what is the point when it feels like a chore?

    Why do it when it's not enjoyable? Think about this. Think of it in terms of your purpose for working, living and existing. Does the thing you do satisfy you? I come from a lower-class family and grew up in "urban" areas. I know all about that feeling of having to work to survive, etc, but so what? This doesn't mean that I wouldn't rather sit there all day and have fun if I could get away with it. I don't value hard work, because it's not something that brings me happiness but was forced upon me due to tough situations.

    Actually, I watched the anime and read the manga, but then it ended. Let me tell you something about the studies on "how our brain works". Here are some words of advice - I'm the exception to the rule. Always remember this. I don't function the same way that most people seem to. Kind of like how coffee tends to make me sleepy instead of give energy. Alcohol is not addictive to me and I usually have to FORCE myself to drink more than a bottle.

    In fact, I'm one of the last people you should worry about where most things are concerned. People like to read what researchers, scientists, and other 'intellectuals' tell them without seriously studying what they read. If religion is the opium of the masses, then so is modern day science. I won't go into detail either. ;)

    You ever have a sort of deja vu moment where you do something, then the next time you do it again except slightly differently? Your analysis of what I wrote comes from the perspective of someone who is looking into the mind-frame of a person they have known for a limited time. You may not even realize that I have walked both paths before and have analyzed where I failed only to come to the conclusion that both ways aren't necessarily the right paths to take.

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    In general studies about the effects of pornography on the human brain, we learn about fetishes and how they form. There's a point where the person becomes highly aroused by very extreme aspects of hardcore pornography. I have been all there before, but I went beyond it and managed to quarantine it from within my brain. Now I've come to the acknowledgement that no porn is better than vanilla sex.

    The things you learn online and elsewhere are like a double-edged sword. They give some useful tidbits of information, but you can't just take them at face value. Even now people reading this thread will likely miss the mark. Only I know where I stand in my path to success or what I have done to get there. My confusion comes from how people seem to not only grasp IM but also enjoy what they are doing. It's not meant to be an attack on IM or that none of the methods work.

    Anyway, this post has gone on long enough.
     
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  15. Billy_Batts

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    No shame if IM is not for you. Many people fail and even few are really successfull. It's sure ain't easy and everything is a lot more work than it seems.

    I myself had to overcome many things already stuff they don't teach you but I enjoy the learning part. At times it can be extremely frustrating and annoying and I often think, what if I fail but for me it ain't a option!

    I know I will be successfull when the things I got planned and working on get perfected and till that time it's hard work.

    Only you can decide if this is for you or not.
     
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    It's fucking hard. When I first started I used to see other people making BIG money selling their digital products. "what, this guys are making a lot of money with little effort, it'll be a piece of cake for me" -that's what I would think some years ago. Today I know is hard as fuck and the income is completely related to the amount of work, knowledge and effort people have had to go trough in order to get where they are now.

    Most people get the impression -I'm not pointing at anyone here, if any, thatd be at myself- that they're going to be making money while they sleep and everything will be just like their favorite fairy tale. It doesn't work like that.
     
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    MAybe make a big IG page.Anyone can do it with consistency. Just focus.Make it the only goall.
     
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    @Elin Dotsya I understand where you are coming from. Life is kind of sad at times if you are a really analytical person.

    You are the type of person who wants to drill down into what really is reality. The problem is that there is only emptiness once you penetrate through into the core of things. Life simply is what it is.

    However, this is not such a bad thing. Feeling emptiness is better than feeling absent minded stress. Most people are stuck in that state of existence. They lack the intelligence to see through the occasional dopamine rushes they get from sex, candy, buying something, etc.

    Since you are past that point, you can do whatever you want. If IM doesn't move you towards this, there is no reason to do it. You can do whatever you want when you know reality is all in everyone's head.

    Edit: Let everyone else worry about the rat race. You do you.
     
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    What is it that you don't enjoy? What do you enjoy? You just need to move towards the stuff you enjoy, and the stuff you are good at. And find the balance where you are making money (i.e. Good at what you are doing) and that you are enjoying it at least a bit.
     
  20. Elin Dotsya

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    Yeah, I'm a bit surprised that I even managed to make more than a dollar online. Given the kind of person that I am and how I function, it was no small feat.

    Lol, this was one of those things that got to me pretty hard. When you are sitting there at 2 am writing articles and start wondering, "wtf am I doing with my life?" and " so... when will it be mine turn to get rich??". I never thought it would take this level of dedication to get anywhere in IM.

    Once I get a new phone I'll see what I can do.

    It's the dilemma of being a spiritual person in a carnally-minded society. I believe in God, so it makes it twice worse. Not only do I believe that reality has a purpose, but that most people have failed before they even began. It's a pain in the ass believing in the importance of a community, but knowing that because most people (those of whom I am thinking of, not necessarily every nation on Earth) are blind sheep, they will fuck it all up either way.

    Very difficult not to be cynical and nihilistic about it all, lol.

    This is what I enjoy -


    I'm a simple person. Sometimes I play games, sometimes I listen to music on YouTube, and other times I might be outside clearing out the grass. I'm becoming closer to a country-bumpkin than I originally was. I don't know how to monetize my lifestyle, but I'm sure I'll find what works for me eventually.

    Did you seriously just copy/paste what Billy_Batts wrote? Oh, trying to get those 15 posts in before the ban? I miss the downvote ranking system. :(