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Matt speaks. Bad links

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Kosher1, Sep 3, 2012.

  1. Kosher1

    Kosher1 Power Member

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    Thought you would find this useful.

    Google?s Matt Cutts aimed to clear up some of the confusion in a blog post over the weekend.

    ?When we see unnatural links pointing to a site, there are different ways we can respond,? Cutts said, explaining the original messages. ?In many severe cases, we reduce our trust in the entire site. For example, that can happen when we believe a site has been engaging in a pretty widespread pattern of link spam over a long period of time. If your site is notified for these unnatural links, we recommend removing as many of the spammy or low-quality links as you possibly can and then submitting a reconsideration request for your site.?

    ?In a few situations, we have heard about directories or blog networks that won?t take links down,? he added. ? If a website tries to charge you to put links up and to take links down, feel free to let us know about that, either in your reconsideration request or by mentioning it on our webmaster forum or in a separate spam report. We have taken action on several such sites, because they often turn out to be doing link spamming themselves.?

    Regarding the newer messages, Cutts said, ?In less severe cases, we sometimes target specific spammy or artificial links created as part of a link scheme and distrust only those links, rather than taking action on a site?s overall ranking. The new messages make it clear that we are taking ?targeted action on the unnatural links instead of your site as a whole.? The new messages also lack the yellow exclamation mark that other messages have, which tries to convey that we?re addressing a situation that is not as severe as the previous ?we are losing trust in your entire site? messages.?

    ?These new messages are worth your attention,? he said. ?Fundamentally, it means we?re distrusting some links to your site. We often take this action when we see a site that is mostly good but might have some spammy or artificial links pointing to it (widgetbait, paid links, blog spam, guestbook spam, excessive article directory submissions, excessive link exchanges, other types of linkspam, etc.). So while the site?s overall rankings might not drop directly, likewise the site might not be able to rank for some phrases. I wouldn?t classify these messages as purely advisory or something to be ignored, or only for innocent sites.?

    ?On the other hand, I don?t want site owners to panic,? he added. ?We do use this message some of the time for innocent sites where people are pointing hacked anchor text to their site to try to make them rank for queries like [buy viagra].?

    Complete Article here ... http://www.webpronews.com/links-are...and-fear-of-google-has-them-crumbling-2012-08
     
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  2. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    Interesting. Thanks and Rep given.

    Hope everyone is reading between the lines here at the pretty obvious line being toed by MC and the relatively simple ways to avoid being the victim of a SERPs slap.
    Though I doubt many of the more obtuse spammers are.

    Scritty
     
  3. jr_sci

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    Matt's going crazy. We don't charge to put up links. We charge for our time. It's upto the website owner to ask us to put up or remove links. Don't you think the website owner should be penalized and not the website for publishing links?

    Think about a featured link in yahoo directory. Now, do you think Google's going to penalize yahoo directory for asking money to put up a link ? If that's the case, it should be for one and all.

    What he says is simply... Horrible !!

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  4. gorang

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    This is also Google panicking because they see a lot of webmasters drowning.

    Pay no attention to the scare tactics of these messages.
     
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    Another smoke cloud from Matt.
    Payed links will get you rank and that is final.
    Private Networks will get you ranked.
     
  6. JDIZM

    JDIZM Junior Member

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    Too right mate, we charge for our time to put the links up. People still need to eat bro.
     
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    assphuck Senior Member

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    Which weekend are you referring to? The content in this post is a month old and the topic has been discussed in great detail here and elsewhere.
     
  8. closedCaption

    closedCaption Regular Member

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    There is a large distance between Matt wishes->G developers develop->All crazy cases that live on the web are taken into account->Update works as planned->Innocent webmasters are not harmed.
    Do business as usual, do not spam like mad donkey on crack and you will be golden.
     
  9. masterjani

    masterjani Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    we are hearing these type of messages from time to time. No need to worry about those messages from matt
     
  10. omg123

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    "might have some spammy or artificial links pointing to it (widgetbait, paid links, blog spam, guestbook spam, excessive article directory submissions, excessive link exchanges, other types of linkspam, etc.)."

    so that accounts for roughly 34.7% of all websites online.
     
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    this is right, google actually sees websites in the yahoo directory as sites that it should include in its index, but this is because people who will pay $299 (or whatever) arent usually going to pay for a spammy fly by night site, which is a major part of googles indexing/algorithym - trust. which is what the panda update was partly about.
    but its still wrong that you can buy your way up the serps by paying one person, but if you pay someone else then its spam, because yahoo is the biggest spam monger out there.

    "Think about a featured link in yahoo directory. Now, do you think Google's going to penalize yahoo directory for asking money to put up a link ? If that's the case, it should be for one and all."



     
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    so, now we can easily take down some rankings with dozens spammy links? :)
     
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    And the relatively simple ways to do the opposite....
     
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    Thanks for the wonderful insight Matt - Now I understand where your coming from. :dizzy:
     
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    Nobody wants to be build low quality links
     
  16. Kosher1

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    You are right. That's why I posted this here. The guy is a frikin @ss. Clearly he has one thing on his mind anytime he speaks "job security" your typical corporate @ss
     
  17. Kosher1

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    Why don't the give us a tool in webmaster to simply deactivate these trouble links?

    Phukin Matt
     
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    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    who ate all the pies?

    matt did
     
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