massive difference beetween analitycs traffic and cloudflare's stats

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ryanlux

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Hi, I'm new to black hat SEO, I hope the community will clue me about this particular problem.

I've set up this new site about crypto. It fetches and spin articles, mostly news. The content is so good humans can't tell the difference.

The problem is, my back linking strategy is indeed bringing some traffic, still not much from organic search but my Cloudflare panel shows this:

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While analytics:
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Anyone have any ideas?
 
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Cloudflare also catch the bot traffic. Not sayin' GA is 100% correct, but it's pretty accurate.
 
Cloudflare counts url hits. Almost all of that views you have on cloudflare are from crawlers/bot that just hit your url.

GA mostly counts human traffic. Not that it can't be fooled but it has ways to deduct most bot traffic out there.
 
Ashk881 said:
Cloudflare counts url hits. Almost all of that views you have on cloudflare are from crawlers/bot that just hit your url.

GA mostly counts human traffic. Not that it can't be fooled but it has ways to deduct most bot traffic out there.
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The 'Not that it can't be fooled' part seems very interesting.

I suppose it is possible to emulate humans coming from the organic search, executing scripts, scrolling, clicking around, submitting forms, and stuff.

Developing a solution myself seems kinda time-consuming, is there some decent software I can test?
 
ryanlux said:
Developing a solution myself seems kinda time-consuming, is there some decent software I can test?
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There's lot of software like that out there. I can't rexomm any tho. Opening a thread in the "want to buy" section might help.

Beware tho that if you decide to use something like that, You might shoot your foot.

Google feeds your Analytics data into their products. So if you try to trick it with bot views, it might catch it out, deduct the bot views, and then snitch that info to AdSense or their other services. That's how they counter a lot of their fradulent activity in AdSense sites and they probably are using that info to blacklist certain websites to enter AdSense too (just my guess)
 
Ashk881 said:
There's lot of software like that out there. I can't rexomm any tho. Opening a thread in the "want to buy" section might help.

Beware tho that if you decide to use something like that, You might shoot your foot.

Google feeds your Analytics data into their products. So if you try to trick it with bot views, it might catch it out, deduct the bot views, and then snitch that info to AdSense or their other services. That's how they counter a lot of their fradulent activity in AdSense sites and they probably are using that info to blacklist certain websites to enter AdSense too (just my guess)
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You might be right, but also I think that the scripts from AdSense also have some listeners embedded, I should really find the time to read the source code and figure out.
Otherwise, fooling google would be as easy as removing GA :p

About traffic bots this is what came out of the search:
Diabolic bot
Micro-workers
Simple Traffic Bot Pro
Somiibo Traffic Module
Epic Traffic Bot

If some fine folk would kindly recommend me some of those, I'd be glad to spare my time and money
 
I tend to think that the "free" Google tools we use are used by Google to eavesdrop on our activity and then the same information is fed to their search algorithm...which is why sites are getting hit, left-right-center.

Just my little conspiracy theory, I'll keep doing my research to understand the extent to which some of these tools are affecting us.
 
Konyagi said:
I tend to think that the "free" Google tools we use are used by Google to eavesdrop on our activity and then the same information is fed to their search algorithm...which is why sites are getting hit, left-right-center.

Just my little conspiracy theory, I'll keep doing my research to understand the extent to which some of these tools are affecting us.
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To which extent your experience leads you to think this is happening?

I mean,
do you believe it is necessary to do all the black-hat activity from a separate computer and network, including mere research,
or just replace tools like GA with some competitor?

Google may immediately penalize sites it believes are owned by follks who searched for "traffic bot" or posted on bhw. In other words, should I go onion?
 
ryanlux said:
To which extent your experience leads you to think this is happening?

I mean,
do you believe it is necessary to do all the black-hat activity from a separate computer and network, including mere research,
or just replace tools like GA with some competitor?

Google may immediately penalize sites it believes are owned by follks who searched for "traffic bot" or posted on bhw. In other words, should I go onion?
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The more you deny Google your personal info e.g. browsing habits, site analytics etc, the better. The more they know about you, the more they can use that information against you.
 
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