Mass Spam Churn & Burn Campaign

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Riton87

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Hello,

So im using Jarvee for my authority accounts and was planning to use it as well for a mass spam campaign. Basically the plan is to have 1000 accounts sending 100 message each a day to targeted people. I was thinking about having a system that constantly maintain a pool of 2000 ig account created and when one acc is banned by insta , to auto switch. For this i have EAC email creator, and the built in jarvee account creator. Is there any existing solution for doing it all automated or will i have to hire someone to code it?
 
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You won't be able to send 100 message per account per day. Especially new account. More like 20-30... even then, you'll need complex spyntax and avoid using same url in message or anything else that will connect those accounts.
 
BraveBotter said:
You won't be able to send 100 message per account per day. Especially new account. More like 20-30... even then, you'll need complex spyntax and avoid using same url in message or anything else that will connect those accounts.
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Yeah, was thinking about using bit ly api aswell. But whatever the amount of messages sent really, thats not the matter atm.
 
Real churn and burn not worth it on IG anymore imo, you'll likely be losing 100's of accs a day being reckless. If you create/warm them up properly and have some patience you could have lasting accs sending 50-100 DMs a day w little problems.
 
largeanincharge said:
Real churn and burn not worth it on IG anymore imo, you'll likely be losing 100's of accs a day being reckless. If you create/warm them up properly and have some patience you could have lasting accs sending 50-100 DMs a day w little problems.
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Why? I can create thousands (shit) of accounts in 10 min. I testing right now how long they likely last with 10 of them.

If i can find a way to replace them auto that could work.
 
Riton87 said:
Why? I can create thousands (shit) of accounts in 10 min. I testing right now how long they likely last with 10 of them.

If i can find a way to replace them auto that could work.
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Don't know of a way to automatically replace them, but deleting dead accs and importing lists of new working ones isn't that much manual work. I did something similar for many months before I finally got annoyed and started to pay more attention to acc quality. Margins were going to shit.

I suppose if your costs for acc creation/PV's and proxies is low enough this could/still does work. Gotta remember too your proxies are gonna go to shit as you keep getting accs banned on them. You better have a ton of proxies. I am interested to hear how long those 10 test accs last.
 
largeanincharge said:
Don't know of a way to automatically replace them, but deleting dead accs and importing lists of new working ones isn't that much manual work. I did something similar for many months before I finally got annoyed and started to pay more attention to acc quality. Margins were going to shit.

I suppose if your costs for acc creation/PV's and proxies is low enough this could/still does work. Gotta remember too your proxies are gonna go to shit as you keep getting accs banned on them. You better have a ton of proxies. I am interested to hear how long those 10 test accs last.
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Hi, so i come to the news and i'm pleasantly surprised by the performances. On the 10 accounts, which are the absolute shittiest accounts one could produce (shit mails, shit proxies for creation and automation, no warm up) none of them are yet banned. I didn't even set a relevant profile pic, not bio, nor uploaded picture before starting sending dm. However, it seems that i can only send 50 dm a day per account. I was planning 100, well it will take 2 time longer. The click ratio from people is 5%, for a follow>dm flow. Pretty sure i can raise it up to 10% with a proper profile with picture and bio and by commenting the last message of the target telling him i dm'ed him. I have no on page conversion infos since im planning to do it for a music production related project which is not online yet. So i sent people to a competitor website xD.

Estimated cost for 1000 accounts:

Proxies: 333 = 280$/month
Server = 150$/month
Jarvee = Probably more than 250$/month
Cloacker = tbd, need advices...
Custom dev to automate account creation/replacement : 500$ / one time.

Estimated visits: 1000x50(dm a day) = 50k (dm/day), ctr 10%= 5000 visits a day.
 
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You can't send 100 DMs a day, you will most likely got PV/ban right away.

I always suggest quality over quantity. You can make more money per account per day if you actually care about what you're doing, and you won't need thousands of accounts to make a great living from IG.
 
LightningKing said:
You can't send 100 DMs a day, you will most likely got PV/ban right away.

I always suggest quality over quantity. You can make more money per account per day if you actually care about what you're doing, and you won't need thousands of accounts to make a great living from IG.
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I don't think you really tried to grasp the problem there. You kinda out of subject i'm sorry. If you read the thread carefully you'll notice for example my latest answer, i can send 50dm a day with shit fresh accounts. And whatever if they get banned, they will be replaced the next minute.

There is no way i'm trying to grow 1000 authority accounts. Thats too long and when one get killed or PV i have to grow it all over again. Thats why im aiming aggressive churn and burn.
 
Riton87 said:
I don't think you really tried to grasp the problem there. You kinda out of subject i'm sorry. If you read the thread carefully you'll notice for example my latest answer, i can send 50dm a day with shit fresh accounts. And whatever if they get banned, they will be replaced the next minute.

There is no way i'm trying to grow 1000 authority accounts. Thats too long and when one get killed or PV i have to grow it all over again. Thats why im aiming aggressive churn and burn.
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The problem here is conversions. You can send as many DMs as you like, but will they convert if your account is new and blank?

From personal experience, spend the same amount of time on quality and quantity, quality always win no matter what.
 
LightningKing said:
The problem here is conversions. You can send as many DMs as you like, but will they convert if your account is new and blank?

From personal experience, spend the same amount of time on quality and quantity, quality always win no matter what.
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By convert you mean will they click the link? Please refer to my previous answers, i give CTR for absolute shit accounts with not even a profile pic. There is no way i can send 50k dm a day even with quality accounts in a sustainable way. With churn and burn, just replace and go. You are trying to learn me things i already know, i have 30 authority accounts already, i'd never turn them into dm bots because i can't afford to lose them.
 
Keep destroying Instagram. I love destruction.
 
Riton87 said:
By convert you mean will they click the link? Please refer to my previous answers, i give CTR for absolute shit accounts with not even a profile pic. There is no way i can send 50k dm a day even with quality accounts in a sustainable way. With churn and burn, just replace and go. You are trying to learn me things i already know, i have 30 authority accounts already, i'd never turn them into dm bots because i can't afford to lose them.
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Sure do what works for you :)
 
So i managed to send 40 dm a day per accounts, two of them ran for 3 days before ban, 2 of them ran for 5 days before ban. Im setting up a software to replace them every hours, and ditch them when pva or ban. Which make for 100 jarvee slots: 100x24x40= 96000 k possible dm a day. 10% of dm'ed people clicked my link and went to my website.
Thats 9600 visit a day. in theory. Lets go ahead with that. ill keep u updated.
 
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