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Many VebXperts Accounts Hacked - Look Out!

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by xxf8xx, Jun 9, 2013.

  1. xxf8xx

    xxf8xx Supreme Member

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    Well, I've hesitated to do this, but here goes. I've purchased some Youtube accounts from VebXperts, all of which we're recently hacked and all my links changed to bitty links redirecting to Cleanfiles (about 50 accounts). At first it never crossed my mind that such a reputable seller that's been here longer than I have would have went rogue, but now I'm having my doubts.


    I first contacted VebXperts about the issue on June 6th. Here's the conversation:


    Me:


    Hello. Many of the accounts I have purchased have been hacked. I am 99% I do not have any type of virus or keylogger. I believe the accounts were simply brute forced. I was wondering if it is possible to have stronger passwords on future accounts to prevent such an attack. I would like my passwords to contain 14 characters, and a random mixture of upper/lower case letters, numbers and symbols.


    Please let me know if this is possible.


    Thanks,
    Brad


    VebXPerts:


    Hi,


    Please guide you are using which bot kindly?
    It is possible to make 14 characters and I think we are already making uper+lower case letters numbers. though not symbols. But I am sure its not brute force.
    Please guide which bot you are using.


    Me:


    The only software installed on the VPS I am using is MVB Pro and u2bviews. The accounts have not been logged into for over a week now but they were just hacked yesterday/today, so I don't see it being a keylogger issue.


    VebXperts:


    My doubt was correct. :)
    Yesterday I had received same complaint about 1 out of 10 accounts from another customer, about password change issue.
    He said that he used only 1 out of 10 and that 1 has its password changed and even the videos he uploaded have different bit.ly link in them. He had not used other 9 thats why they were safe.
    I asked him which bot he is using and he had reported "MVB Pro" You are using the same one and problem is also same.


    Brute forcing any complicated password like we have for our YT is not that easy, it needs lots of effort mate. Use accounts without MVB Pro and then see if your passwords get changed or not. :)

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    Note here that he is trying to put the blame on MVB Pro which seems like a red flag to me. There is no way Vlad and Stoica are stealing accounts, but I PMed Vlad anyway. He assured me he could give hard proof that MVB Pro does not collect or send any data other than connecting to the licencing server. He also reminded me that if someone was to try and brute force their way into an account, it would most likely get locked before they got into it.


    This started to make me dig deeper and see if anyone else has had the same thing happen to them. To my surprise, I have found that everyone I talked to that claims they have had hacked accounts and links being changed has purchased their accounts from VebXperts.


    Here are those claims. Please note I left the claims anonymous as I wasn't sure if they wanted to be involved in this shit list thread.

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    [2013-06-07 3:07:29 PM] xxf8xx: I see. Did others claim it was vebxperts as well stealing accounts?
    [2013-06-07 3:07:41 PM] anon: Jus use the tool i gave you in the facebook thread, batch change all the youtube passwords and you will be fine
    [2013-06-07 3:07:54 PM] xxf8xx: yea I'm going to try it out
    [2013-06-07 3:08:22 PM] anon: They did not claim it, but it was the only thing we all had in common, buying from vebexperts

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    In the next PM it was explained that VebXperts and Yawarabbas are the same person. Yawarabbas is the name VebXperts sells under on the Cleanfiles market place.


    Screen Shot 2013-06-09 at 11.46.22 AM.png

    Anyway, that's all the proof I have. It's not much, but even if it's not enough to get VebXperts banned, which is the outcome I'd prefer, at least people might be a little more cautious about who where they get their accounts from.

    If anyone else has a claim against VebXperts, I ask that you please come forward and state your claim here as well.

    Cheers,
    xxf8xx
     
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  2. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Accused member has been notified to respond with 48 hours.
     
  3. tabish8612

    tabish8612 Power Member

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    @OP you're are right I buy some hotmail account from them and since last few weeks I start noticing some hotmail account start getting banned because there are hacked and someone send numerous spamming message. However I don't have any proof yet because there are just few and I delete them as soon as I get proof I attach here.
     
  4. vebxperts

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    Hi :)

    First of all, it is true that yawarabbas and vebxperts are same! (nothing to hide)
    Can you please PM me the links or if you want to paste here then paste them here (Bitty links redirecting to CF)

    Because, I want to speak with Kyle and find out who is the person at CF that is doing this with me and my customers.

    This is true that you are not the only one, as I had mentioned in email that one other guy had same problem with MVB PRo. Well, this is true he had the problem and this is just a thought that MVB Pro is doing this, (Of course I am not 100% sure but was a thought, just like you are thinking that I am scamming you, so it's just a thought anyways.)

    I think the best action is to find out to whom those links belong and then we can speak further about the matter.

    I hope, its a wise suggestion! :)

    Looking forward for your response.

    P.S I have been in this business for years friend, I know how hard it is to make good reputation and there is no way that I shall do such stupid thing to ruin my years of respect. I have nothing more to explain about myself regarding the matter. BUT we need to sort it out and I need your help. Please I am waiting for the links.

    @Tabish: You haven't ever said this to me in past, because if any such thing happen, I always respond just like now! :)
     
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  5. thekingmaker

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    Well i actually bought from him from the cleanfiles forum, and he changed the links to bit.ly as soon as i boosted my accounts.Well i have complained in the cleanfiles forum, messaged to kyle but to date no action has been taken.And as soon as i posted shitlist about him in cleanfiles forum yawaraabas/vebxperts he deleted all the videos and he even deleted the cleanfiles files like the one above.Its really bad because only the cleanfiles admin or mod could provide hard evidence against him but they dont give a damn.I hope atleast he get banned here.
     
  6. vebxperts

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    I hope that the problem shall get resolved here!
    Regarding your "he deleted all the videos and he even deleted the cleanfiles files"

    If that hacker is on BHW as well and have scene this thread, I am sure he'll do it again. IMHO better way was that OP shall have spoke with me in private first. He did and I answered him. After that he purchased another batch of 50 YT PVA from me with his own created passwords.
    When I delivered him those 50, I had not heard anything from him and thought all is well now. But today I am seeing myself in shit. And again if hacker has read it, evidence will be cleaned. But let's see what happens now!
     
  7. thekingmaker

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    Wow seriously, Then the hacker should be a great guy, maybe i should hire that hacker.So according to you this hacker carefully watches who buy from vebxperts and then magically infects the user with a keylogger.Then when the user uploads a video and boosts them, he hacks the accounts and then changes the link into clean files link in which vebxperts has already got a account.And then the hacker deletes the videos and even the cleanfiles file when a thread is posted that vebxperts is scamming people by changing the links.And even now you are sure that this great hacker who will be carefully monitoring the bhw forum will delete all the links and videos again after seeing a shitlist thread about you, vebxperts.

    Its a good story but its not possible because even if a hacker has infected my pc with a keylogger the first thing he would've changed is my gmail accounts and paypal account password not my youtube video accounts.

    And the chance for a hacker to hack only the users who buy accounts from you is almost impossible.So i suggest you to drop the act instead of pointing to a hacker who doesn't exist.
     
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  8. vebxperts

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    @OP: Waiting for your response :)

    @thekingmaker: Thanks!
     
  9. thekingmaker

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    So you agree that, you hacked all the accounts?
     
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  10. NorthFace

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    vebxperts is obviously guilty just ban him. I knew it was suspicious when he didn't want me to write anything in the paypal details. He was in such a rush to get my money. And the OP isn't lying a lot of people have had this problem. I had to change my passwords 3 times just in case.
     
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  11. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    NorthFace has been infracted for patronising the mods.
     
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  12. tabish8612

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    I did not complain before because there are very few accounts that is why I don't have any problem if few of them get banned but if account getting hacked frequently I surely complain it to you personally.
     
  13. vebxperts

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    Okay Tabish! I am always available. :)
     
  14. Twixx

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    This is hopefully the first and last shitlist thread that I'm getting myself into, but I just want to support the OP and all others who have been experiencing the same thing with VebXperts accounts.

    Some time ago, I decided to check out some old accounts that had some videos uploaded to them. I noticed that one of them, (the one that has got the most organic views because of the niches) had some weird bit.ly links in the description. I knew that it wasn't my links, since I've never really used url shorteners, so I tried to login to it and change the links, but the password was changed. I thought that it maybe was some hackers that had been able to login to the account and change links so I didn't care much about it.

    A few days ago, xxf8xx wrote in a PPD / CPA facebook group and asked if anyone else's accounts had changed links. Then things got interesting. Both of our accounts were bought from Vebxperts, and there were even some other guys reporting the same thing. I PM:ed "VebXperts" and he pretty much claimed that it was MVB Pro:s fault that this happens, but I didn't own MVB at the time I used the account.

    I'm not sure how to show proof of this, but if a Mod wants it, I could send the link to my account and videos and the excel file with usernames and passwords that I've gotten from Vebxperts. I'm not sure if this counts as proof, but I got my domain in the video and that's the domain that I used as a landing page. All links in the videos are changed to either cleanfiles files (which are deleted) or some sendspace files.

    Cheers
     
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  15. pubudusoft

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    @ Twixx
    Few of my accounts also got passwords changed. So i lost them too.

    Clean you PMs will ya...?
     
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  16. vebxperts

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    Gentleman, as said earlier that I agree your hard work is ruined (not by me) by someone at my end. I am sorting it out right now at my end but I need help from you people as well.

    I had mentioned here in my first post that (OP) PM me or email me the links that you have scene changed in your videos (Now, I am requesting every person who has been victim of my this issue please.) becuase, I want to catch this person as I agree that the problem is occurring at my end (But not by "myself (vebxperts/yawarabbas)", either you trust or not) and I want to catch him as well but red handed.

    For this I need your help, please send me your files in which you have found that the passwords are changed and video link is changed, just send back the exact files kindly.

    Once again, about MVB, was just an idea if you guys have felt that I am throwing total blame on them, then I would like to make it clear that I was not blaming them 100%, but it was just a first thought which "I am saying, was wrong" (I agree). Because, now I have more doubt that something is being done at my end but not by myself.

    If you people have any trust left on my words (Even if you don't trust me anymore, it is understandable I apologize for that), please help me sort out this matter and email me the files at support @ vebxperts.com (remove spaces).

    P.S. It's not myself but someone at my end, whom I'll catch ASAP.


    Question for OP:
    Have you faced same issue with your recently purchased 50 yt or just the old ones (from last month), kindly send me all those files where accounts are hacked (and all other victim members, do it as well) please!
     
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  17. lakerr

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    I got hundreds accounts from Vebxpert and accounts are fine (80% still up and not hacked after 1 month)
    I'm using MVBpro too and I think it's not problem with accounts from Vebxperts or MVB ...
     
  18. xxf8xx

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    im out of the city right now but might be able to get to my computer and grab some of the links asap.
     
  19. sodevrom

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    Hello guys,
    I read the first post of this topic + a few more, and I want to clarify things.

    MVB Pro IS NOT a key logger! We (me and Stoica) have been providing top softwares for over 3 years, all constantly updated, and nobody until now had any issues (I can't guarantee anything for the people who use creacked versions of old MVB).

    The only outside calls that are made by MVB Pro are the ones to verify the license (besides the youtube logins/uploads).
    If anybody wants extra proof, I can provide scanned logs of all operations done by MVB to the internet.

    I don't know vebexperts, but what I do know is that MY SOFTWARES are not hacks, and surely not keyloggers. I don't spend 10 months working on a product just to steal some YT accounts :)

    Anyways, hope I clarified things on this matter, and you are all 100% sure that MVB pro does nothing bad.

    Thanks and good luck!
    Vlad
     
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  20. vebxperts

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    Thanks Lakerr, I have already mentioned that its not MVB (That was just a first thought which was wrong)
    Thanks xxf8xx, I am anxiously waiting for links via email please.
    Well, I have already clarified that MVB is not guilty for this matter. Yes, you are 100% right.