TheVigilante
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Awesome journey and I am following it closely!
Many Ecommerce Stores, SEO & Adwords journey
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Pinktoe
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It looks like I'm going to smash my goal of $20k operational profit in March. The sites are making close to $1k/day in operational profit right now. This is due to finishing one site and also being able to optimize my ad campaigns more, and better rankings.
Site 2 is making most of it (around 60%). and adwords is responsible for around 30% of it, SEO is doing the rest.
I'll talk more about the sites that I'm working on at the end of month post/report
I am doing everything. But each niche is different. One niche had absolutely 0 conversions on phrase & broad match KW's, and that was with a big sample size, so I ended up only doing exact match for that. While I'm doing everything for the others.
I am using the script that adwords give you for tracking conversions, but I also have "{% if first_time_accessed %}" at the start, so the same person can't trigger it multiple times.
I have been experimenting with different bidding strategies. Target ROAs has been working well for one of my sites, while I've been doing max conversions for others (for max conversions, the only real variable you can test is the daily budget, which does impact it a lot). I need to try out manual CPC more though as now I have a much better idea on how each ad is doing in terms of cpc and conversions
One thing that is very important with adwords is that unless you are lucky, it's going to take some time and money to run a ad campaign that gives you good ROI. The reasons being that there are going to be many pitfalls for you to figure out on the way, and you can only figure out the pitfalls with data. And also, you don't start with 10/10 quality score, you start with the average quality score.
Thank you, let me know if you have any questions
Site 2 is making most of it (around 60%). and adwords is responsible for around 30% of it, SEO is doing the rest.
I'll talk more about the sites that I'm working on at the end of month post/report
I am doing everything. But each niche is different. One niche had absolutely 0 conversions on phrase & broad match KW's, and that was with a big sample size, so I ended up only doing exact match for that. While I'm doing everything for the others.
I am using the script that adwords give you for tracking conversions, but I also have "{% if first_time_accessed %}" at the start, so the same person can't trigger it multiple times.
I have been experimenting with different bidding strategies. Target ROAs has been working well for one of my sites, while I've been doing max conversions for others (for max conversions, the only real variable you can test is the daily budget, which does impact it a lot). I need to try out manual CPC more though as now I have a much better idea on how each ad is doing in terms of cpc and conversions
One thing that is very important with adwords is that unless you are lucky, it's going to take some time and money to run a ad campaign that gives you good ROI. The reasons being that there are going to be many pitfalls for you to figure out on the way, and you can only figure out the pitfalls with data. And also, you don't start with 10/10 quality score, you start with the average quality score.
Thank you, let me know if you have any questions
Pinktoe
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I haven't been posting here much due to the lack of questions
I will continue to give random updates.
This month has been really good. I seem to be on $36k/month operational profit now. Site 2 being at $30k and site 3 at $6k. Site 1 is at $200. I
I have made huge gains in the serps and my sites are in the top 3 for a lot of keywords. Site 2 is now #1 for a 110k KW, which is pretty much the KW of the niche. The semrush traffic graph for this is currently looking hilarious. Not entirely accurate though as search console has me at 40k visitors a month
I will continue to give random updates.
This month has been really good. I seem to be on $36k/month operational profit now. Site 2 being at $30k and site 3 at $6k. Site 1 is at $200. I
I have made huge gains in the serps and my sites are in the top 3 for a lot of keywords. Site 2 is now #1 for a 110k KW, which is pretty much the KW of the niche. The semrush traffic graph for this is currently looking hilarious. Not entirely accurate though as search console has me at 40k visitors a month
nikolajoow
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When choosing a price for the products you dropship, is it cost based, so lets say your product cost $10 on aliexpress do you then sell it for 20? or how do you decide the price of your products?
And are you using aliexpress to dropship or another supplier?
and last, have you thought more about the " I'll be buying inventory from China for the three sites and bringing them over to a local fulfillment center that I have previously worked with sometime during next year. I am not sure when, but most likely after the sites start ranking.
And nice journey
And are you using aliexpress to dropship or another supplier?
and last, have you thought more about the " I'll be buying inventory from China for the three sites and bringing them over to a local fulfillment center that I have previously worked with sometime during next year. I am not sure when, but most likely after the sites start ranking.
And nice journey
Pinktoe
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1. It's not cost based, it's what brings the most profit. I'd split test different price points and then go with what seems to be the most profitable. Pricing at a similar point or cheaper than your competitors is a good starting point. I sell some products for $30 that costs me $2, and some for $30 that costs me $10
2. Using aliexpress
3. I have but decided not to go through with it for now. I'd rather have more buffer in my bank account, to be safe from cash flow issues that could arise from a google algo update
2. Using aliexpress
3. I have but decided not to go through with it for now. I'd rather have more buffer in my bank account, to be safe from cash flow issues that could arise from a google algo update
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Excellent Journey!!
Pinktoe
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Tl;dr About to hit my goal of $50k operational profit for May and I've moved back to wales
It's been two months since my last post. I was at $30k operational at that point. A lot has happened. I've launched a lot more sites, although those are not making money yet. I have sites for 15 niches now. I've also made international versions of my winning sites.
Site 2 is still the one driving most of this. It's getting 2.5k clicks a day now. And is #1 for everything within the niche I originally targeted. I am currently expanding the site a bit to go for other KW's that is very close to the niche.
In the OP, one of my goals was to eventually move back to Wales. Well I've moved back to Wales a month ago and I'm super happy to be back home, and I've also hired all of my friends to help out (they all worked crappy minimum wage jobs). There are 9 westerners and 4 Filipino VA's helping me right now. The vast majority of their time is spent on growing the sites/making more sites. To run the sites that are making money, I have one friend managing everything including customer service, which takes 20 hours a week of his time.
In January, the operational profit was $10k. I made the goal of hitting $50k operational profit for May. It's looking like I will barely make it.
My next goal is to hopefully hit $100k operational profit a month by the end of September. Another goal is to go back to working 40 hours a week. I've been doing 75 hours for a few weeks now and it's starting to get to me. I need to better delegate the tasks that I have a hard time letting go of
It's been two months since my last post. I was at $30k operational at that point. A lot has happened. I've launched a lot more sites, although those are not making money yet. I have sites for 15 niches now. I've also made international versions of my winning sites.
Site 2 is still the one driving most of this. It's getting 2.5k clicks a day now. And is #1 for everything within the niche I originally targeted. I am currently expanding the site a bit to go for other KW's that is very close to the niche.
In the OP, one of my goals was to eventually move back to Wales. Well I've moved back to Wales a month ago and I'm super happy to be back home, and I've also hired all of my friends to help out (they all worked crappy minimum wage jobs). There are 9 westerners and 4 Filipino VA's helping me right now. The vast majority of their time is spent on growing the sites/making more sites. To run the sites that are making money, I have one friend managing everything including customer service, which takes 20 hours a week of his time.
In January, the operational profit was $10k. I made the goal of hitting $50k operational profit for May. It's looking like I will barely make it.
My next goal is to hopefully hit $100k operational profit a month by the end of September. Another goal is to go back to working 40 hours a week. I've been doing 75 hours for a few weeks now and it's starting to get to me. I need to better delegate the tasks that I have a hard time letting go of
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rudrapada
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The 200th like is mine. Your journey is awesome, very inspiring.
All the best man! You will hit your next goal.
destinywakes
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nice journey so far, glad to get answers of these few
1 whats your strategy on link building
2 do you target multiple keywords
3 the PBN links your sent to home page or inner pages & how many links you throw at a time until it ranks?
1 whats your strategy on link building
2 do you target multiple keywords
3 the PBN links your sent to home page or inner pages & how many links you throw at a time until it ranks?
Pinktoe
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1. The majority of the types of links I use are PBN and article edits outreach. I also use local citations to the home page, I don't think they do much but they are stupid cheap, they don't harm. We email a lot of people either through VA's doing manual outreach or through a contact form submitter, with the end goal of having the webmaster edit a semi relevant article for $20. Also been doing skyscraper & broken link building, but I have not done enough of it yet. Still working on the process.
I spread the links out a lot, between the home page, the categories and informational articles.
For anchors, I do not follow the anchors of the niche, instead, I just do what the big brands are doing. Which is mainly brand anchors and very little target anchors. I have not used a single exact match anchor. All of my target anchors are used in sentences, and they are used rarely (2-3%). "Check out this page for some cool widgets" type of thing.
I am very aggressive with internal anchors, some are exact match and the rest are all target anchors.
I try to target every single KW within the niche across the site. I want the site to cover the niche as much as possible.
I typically have a PBN linking to a site once per day. That's how I ranked site #2. That varies between one per three days to two per day for the new sites. It depends on how large the site is and how difficult the niche is. Dripfeeding for months is definitely better than throwing a fk tonne in one go and leaving it though.
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destinywakes
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well that's nice, actually i have done link building for few of low competition keywords, its been a 15 days i built PBN & web 2.0 but none of the keywords still showing in serp not even in google search console?
Pinktoe
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15 days is nothing. When it comes to ranking within a period of time, I think one of the most important factors is the age of the content. Most of my sites didn't have anything happen to them until I was atleast 3 months in (apart from 1 which got traffic right off the bat) Also, I didn't see benefit of most of my link building efforts until around 45 days after I built the first link.
My advice is to work on your site and not obsess over your rankings. Focus on covering your niche and building your site for users. Keep learning about SEO and apply best practices (are all of your pages indexed?). Make sure you submit your sitemap to search console.
You should see some KW's in the top 100 within the first few weeks though. How much content do you have on your site?
Seo is usually a very slow game and that's ok. But I remember making a chance, and expecting/hoping something to happen immediately... but it very rarely happened. This stuff takes forever.
Worry about your rankings more when you are 4-5 months in. I had some KW's at N/A when I was 3-4 months in, and now I am #1 for all of them.
Edit: I actually posted this on the first page for site 2: https://www.blackhatworld.com/attachments/site2mainkws1215-jpg.98682/
I am #1 for all of these now. The site was over 110 days old during this screenshot. Also, the #8 one, actually took the longest to get to #1.
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destinywakes
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this is my site, its 1 1/2 y/o, not getting any money right now but the link building is going on. yes all my pages are indexed & i setup GSC.
money2money
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Hello,
Nice goals!
Do you selling your stuff only for USA people? Or worldwide?
How many days delivery from china takes?
And if customer order 2 or more items from different dropship supliers how do you handle it?
Nice goals!
Do you selling your stuff only for USA people? Or worldwide?
How many days delivery from china takes?
And if customer order 2 or more items from different dropship supliers how do you handle it?
Pinktoe
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I've been selling mainly to Americans but I'm trying to sell more internationally now.
3 weeks
We just process them separately. Epacket is typically very cheap.
How much content do you have and do you cover a lot of the niche? The problem 100% isn't links here.
destinywakes
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Am having total 13 articles in that 5 articles are buying guides & product reviews, rest are affiliate review type articles.
Buying guides has each 2500 words & affiliate review has 1000 to 1500 words.
divoci11
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Great post with huge value. Love the way you are building your empire through VA's.
According to the international versions of your sites - are you making multiple separate websites in various languages? Or just language translation on your already ranked website?
According to the international versions of your sites - are you making multiple separate websites in various languages? Or just language translation on your already ranked website?
seogiantking
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good journey. keep it up.
Pinktoe
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I have never built an affiliate site. But it sounds like you should focus on more informational articles, and not money pages.
Actually I haven't made any translation, I just duplicated the stores and slapped them on .ca, .co.uk, .com.au and .eu
Powerful journey mate!!
I have a question for you:
How do you keeping up? 8 products is no joke
You got a system in place?
Would like to know a little about that
Having a system in place is the most important thing when it comes to scaling.
Everything that you do that you think some one else could do, you shouldn't be doing it. Documenting a system, testing it, and making changes to it, is very time consuming at first, and it was difficult to get started because it feels like there's so much stuff for me to do, but in the long haul, it'll save so much time. And when you hire new people, they can get started right away.
To communicate it, I just use trello and have massive step by step checklists for different processes, and a bunch of videos. Definitely recommend it if you find your self doing a fuck load of small things that some one else could do instead.