Making money from games

Hopefully this is the right section to post this thread, if not please move it somewhere else.

First of all, let me tell you that english isn't my native language. But i'll try my best to avoid mistakes.

A few years ago (i think it was in 2000) in was playing diablo online, which was kinda hot back in the days. I just played it for fun, i initially never thought about earning money with it.
I got into ingame trading and after a few month i was quite good at it and one of the bigger traders. Like i said, it all was just for fun.
The one day i stumbled upon an ebay auction where someone was selling diablo virtual goods and i was like WTF! I just couldn't believe it. People were really paying for virtual goods (remember it was in 2000, so it wasn't as common as today).
I thought hell i could do that too! So i made a $150 investment and buyed some diablo ingame currency (sojs) on ebay which i used to buy other ingame stuff. That stuff in turn i sold on ebay.
What can i say? It worked like a charm! I managed to make something like $9000 in just a few months. Yeah i know, that's not much for some people in here. But i was only 18 years old back then and had no experience with IM or business at all.
Sadly it didn't lasted for a long time, but i made some good money and was happy about it.

Alright i already hear you saying, why on earth is she telling us this story. That's easy to answer: I want to get back into this business.

Is there anyone in here who's operating in this business? Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking for your secrets. Just want to talk a bit about this topic. Are you making money from games like selling gold or offering a level up service? Do you like to share some of your experiences from it?

Herzlich willkommen ..

Take a look at this topic , it is still fresh..I tried it little bit but It needs so much time then I leaved..

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...imited-amount-cash-without-doing-nothing.html

lg.

etrader said:

Herzlich willkommen ..

Take a look at this topic , it is still fresh..I tried it little bit but It needs so much time then I leaved..

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lg.

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Ya check some of my posts (and my recent) the money is in the gold and has

always been. Avoid the skeptics, put the work in and you will end up making

more than their whole family .

Hope I crate some future success story for anyone reading this,


Shadexpwn

etrader said:

Herzlich willkommen ..

Take a look at this topic , it is still fresh..I tried it little bit but It needs so much time then I leaved..

lg.

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Danke

Shadexpwn said:

Ya check some of my posts (and my recent) the money is in the gold and has

always been. Avoid the skeptics, put the work in and you will end up making

more than their whole family .

Hope I crate some future success story for anyone reading this,


Shadexpwn

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I've read your postings, some interesting stuff in there. But i'm not so much thinking about farming gold myself.
Bots arent't really working reliable if you don't check them all the time. I know there are some good working bots, but they still require you to check at least every few hours if they still doing there work properly.
What if you need to sleep or leave the house? One can't be around 24 hours a day. That's time you lose money if the bots aren't working while you away.
Sure you could hire someone else to monitor the bots for you. But hiring someone in the US or in Europe isn't cheap.
And another problem with bots is, gaming companies are always trying to detect them and shut them down. So you always have to deal with bots who aren't working anymore and someone has to reprogram them. That again costs time and money.
But there's a solution. In asia people are farming gold without bots and they're doing it for cents. You might have heard from china gold farms. People are sitting there playing 14 hours a day and all they do is farming, farming and more farming. And they're humans and behave like humans in the game, so it isn't as obvious as some bots are. That's a big advantage.
I'm still trying to figure out how to contact some of these chinese farmers. I don't speak chinese and sadly i wasn't able to find some contacts via google.
Anyone from china in here btw who knows what i'm talking of ?

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blackfairy said:

Danke





I've read your postings, some interesting stuff in there. But i'm not so much thinking about farming gold myself.
Bots arent't really working reliable if you don't check them all the time. I know there are some good working bots, but they still require you to check at least every few hours if they still doing there work properly.
What if you need to sleep or leave the house? One can't be around 24 hours a day. That's time you lose money if the bots aren't working while you away.
Sure you could hire someone else to monitor the bots for you. But hiring someone in the US or in Europe isn't cheap.
And another problem with bots is, gaming companies are always trying to detect them and shut them down. So you always have to deal with bots who aren't working anymore and someone has to reprogram them. That again costs time and money.
But there's a solution. In asia people are farming gold without bots and they're doing it for cents. You might have heard from china gold farms. People are sitting there playing 14 hours a day and all they do is farming, farming and more farming. And they're humans and behave like humans in the game, so it isn't as obvious as some bots are. That's a big advantage.
I'm still trying to figure out how to contact some of these chinese farmers. I don't speak chinese and sadly i wasn't able to find some contacts via google.
Anyone from china in here btw who knows what i'm talking of ?

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If you have no motivation for this multibillion dollar industry then this isn't the right one for you.

The chinese have this industry on lockdown, they raped it because they're stupid and dont realize price-fixing would have been the better longterm solution

phatzilla said:

The chinese have this industry on lockdown, they raped it because they're stupid and dont realize price-fixing would have been the better longterm solution

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I could say the gurus have im locked down but I can't because it isn't true.

I do have motivation. What makes you think that i doesn't? Because i don't want to spend my time controlling several bots at home? It seems just logical to me to outsource that part, if there are people who are willig to do that part of the job for less money then i would be willig to do it.

And those you mentioned who are actually making multi billions dollars are not the ones sitting at home babysitting some bots.
Do you know the guy who founded IGE? IGE was the very first company who sold virtual game goods on the internets. This guy is rich as shit now. He had something like 400 employees and controlled nearly the whole wow gold market a few years ago. But he didn't accomplish that by running bots on his own computers at home.

In one of your other postings you mentioned you're selling gold to another guy. Which is cool. I'm not trying to talk it down. You found a method which is earning you money and that's great. Like i said in my first post, i did something similar a few years ago.
But why don't you try to enhance it? Why selling to another guy who's making profit from you, when you could be the one buying from others and selling it with way more profit?

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The chinese have this industry on lockdown, they raped it because they're stupid and dont realize price-fixing would have been the better longterm solution

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Chinese government tried to, but they didn't really succesfully shut it down. It's still alive, maybe just a bit more hidden then before.

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Chinese government tried to, but they didn't really succesfully shut it down. It's still alive, maybe just a bit more hidden then before.

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because I can have 20 bots running 24/7 with full scalability for 1 month for the price you pay for 1 worker for 7 days, 5 hours a day.

Shadexpwn said:

because I can have 20 bots running 24/7 with full scalability for 1 month for the price you pay for 1 worker for 7 days, 5 hours a day.

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Running a bot 24/7 is like holding a big red sign in your hand saying i'm a bot. I don't know maybe you're lucky and in the game you're doing it the developers aren't putting much effort into banning bot users. But they do in the game i'm thinking about selling stuff. Or you have some really awesome bot which can be hardly detected.

I figured out i can buy a certain amount of gold for like $19 and sell it for like $26-29. That's a nice profit and i'm sure the buy prices can be improved.
I'm still thinking about it and doing some more research.