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Magic submitter- replace with one time fee tools?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by terry75, Oct 24, 2012.

  1. terry75

    terry75 Registered Member

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    Hi,
    If you want to replace Magic Submitter with other tools which you can buy one time fee, is it possible to replace most parts with other tools? I recently bought Wiki bomber here and it is really fantastic piece of software and I actually use it more than MS's Wiki feature. There are several other pieces of software I found which comes with specific feature (like wiki bomber) and though you have to buy many pieces of software to cover many aspects, in the long run it might be cheaper that way (no monthly fees).

    For example, I hear good things about Social Bookmarking bomber. AMR is one time fee and I could use it for article submission(obviously) and I hear they support Elgg blogs now(?). If I buy several pieces of software which has single feature like these pieces do, can I cover all (most of) the MS features (one-time-fee software which creates and posts on Web2.0's, Wordpress blogs, etc?)

    I know Ultimate Demon has single payment option - and it is an option indeed, but I'm thinking more about buying many "specific" tools after I was so impressed by Wikibomber.

    Thank you.
     
  2. Gary Becks

    Gary Becks Power Member

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    I'd go for GSA if I were you.
     
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    While I'm not a big fan of MS (it's ok) the biggest issue with "one time payment tools" is that - Bookmark Demon and Scrapebox aside 100% of them have a real short shelf life.

    The sites that they get links from change and the tools need recoding to reflect that, and with one off payment tools, once the initial sales burst is over and the dev has done the decent thing and maybe "just about" provided 6 months of updates..they abandon it.
    There is no residual income, hardly anyone is buying the tool any more, so the devs are spending tens of hours a week maintaining a tool that no longer gives them any/much income.
    (A good trick here is that they announce "Linkspammer 2.0" with a discount for those who bought the original. It has a few new features, allows them a new sales burst, and also makes it clear that support for the first tool has ceased completely. With many one off tool you're lucky to get 9-12 months before this sort of thing happens.

    "Lifetime updates" is the lifetime of the tool - not YOUR lifetime
    And if the developer decides the tools lifetime is up 6 months after it first came out? Well that's the end of that. Lifetime meant 6 months.
    Happens all the time

    MS, Nuke and Demon have dozens of custom coded sites that need their scripts updating often (as well as the ability to add more from a wide range of generic platforms) and even those scripts need updating now and again.

    One off payment for Nuke was a good bet, 2+ years for under $350 for Demon is a good bet. Those tools also have subs (a lot of them) as well as the one off payment options. Both devs update regularly and have a track record of providing service that goes back years. They are the exception to the rule

    Scrapebox and Bookmarking Demon aside - one off payment tools that create links are a ball ache. Check out "Incansoft" and the huge range of stuff they had in 2008/9 that claims to do so much but whatever you do - don't buy a bloody thing - it's all abandonware - just watch the tumble weed roll past. MOst of it was failing badly after less than 6 months. There are many other examples.
    Ksoft, Dummysoft, anyone remember BookmarkWiz? whole ranges of twitter and facebook tools, RSS submit..the list goes on and on and on

    Scritty
     
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    Hi,

    I was actually in a similar position to yourself a while back but with SENuke and not Magic Submitter.

    In the end I settled on Ultimate Demon because of the fixed one time fee and the wide range of functionality it offered. The ease of use and speed of setting up campaigns are also nice bonuses over nuke and MS with my very limited experience of MS.

    It is much better to have everything under one roof so to speak instead of having to run multiple pieces of software for different types of link.

    UD also makes it nice and easy to constantly refine your target site list and has one of the best site import processes I've seen.

    I also use it quite extensively in my tutorials http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...site-google-2-hour-video-tutorial-series.html along with GSA which was already recommended above.
     
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    I use both UD and GSA SER to get facilities of MS.
     
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  6. SEOChief

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    GSA SER is blog comments only no ??
     
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    Recurring costs can be a bit of a bummer but it really gives the developers a reason to keep developing. There's been a few good pieces of software now which have died out because of no recurring.

    That said, like the other guys said,, UltimateDemon is great. The EdwinSoft guys know what they are doing
     
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    You say GSA Search Engine Ranker is a Fantastic piece of software to automate tier 2 and 3.

    Why not tier 1?
    Which platforms and types of link do you use for tier1?

    Using maybe only web 2.0 could be ok, for small 10 pages sites, but for a 1 000 pages site more types of links and links are needed if one wants to rank all the pages. Though web 2.0 (custom ones not elgg or doplhin) would be the most stable.
     
  9. terry75

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    Thank you everyone for your replies.
    About ultimate Demon - I know there are many threads to compare it with MS however Could anyone (preferably who has both) tell me where UD is better than MS, or vice versa?

    Actually I heard some people say UD is much slower than MS. I can't remember exactly how I came to the conclusion myself other than that but I decided MS over UD a long time ago, and I don't know how these 2 compare now.

    Thank you!
     
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    No it does quite a few generic platforms and is the best lower tier linking tool outside of Xrumer. Just turn off trackbacks and guestbooks. Too many of them are not good news (and if you leave this tool on default settings you will get LOADS of these type of worthless/potentially dangerous links.

    But that aside GSA is a very good lower tier link tool.

    UD is a little slower than MS, but more thorough in what it reports and the efforts it makes to hide any level of automation. Not so important on cookie cutter/generic platform sites, (which are teh only type of site GSA has for instance) but very important on the many high traffic high PR d0follow custom coded sites it posts links to.

    Many of those have speed related anti spam/anti bot systems and UD has a throttling system (you set yourself) that prevents your accounts being banned by not only slowing down, but mixing up the sites and IP's you post to over time.

    These days fast linking is normally dumb linking - and dumb linking is "bye bye SERPs"

    Scritty
     
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