Luke Sample the real deal? (CPA Coach - $2,500)

BHjohn,

As a current student, soon to be an ex-student, I must take issue with you on a couple of statements you have made in Luke's defence.

You have to work with him directly on skype or phone

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I have been a student of Lukes for three months and we have spoken on Skype TWICE. That's right .... twice in three months. I sent emails regularly but these never received a response. I tried to book sessions through his appointment system, but spaces were always fully booked.

The true value of Luke is his coaching, but when the coach is not responding to emails for two weeks and you are unable to book a session with him, how do you propose I contact him ????

The only time I got a fast response was on a billing query I had. Strange that the only email I received a response to in over a month was one that involved me paying him.

The emails that have been responded to have been in the form of video messages where Luke has basically ignored 99% of what I was asking him and just goes off onto other areas instead of adressing the issues I raised and wanted answers to.

The impression I get is that if you are a student who is making lots of money and can really fly with a method, you get personal service at a moments notice ( obviously, as it's an income sharing setup ). However, if you are struggling with a method and not producing much income because of it, you slip under his radar into the "can't be bothered to support them" section. Which kind of negates what the term "coach" is all about.

I really had high hopes for the coaching and was looking forward to working with Luke. But I genuinely feel he has too many students and is being stretched to wide. It's like a teacher in a class of 50 children concentrating on the high-acheivers so they get good grades, whilst the strugglers are left at the back of the class to fend for themselves. Which is compeltely unfair considering the cost involved.

Just my honest $0.02c

Nothing like a thread of people riding a bandwagon.

Don't you guys have something better to do?

Seriously... people in this thread have posted results, yet you keep bashing him? Come on now. Go do some marketing and make some money already!

Thanks Squiffy,
That is exactly the same situation I have with his coaching.
He never replied my email I sent him asking question.
Never ever ! Even I sent email 6-7 times with the same question.
Holy Crap ! This is what the coaching means ?
After the first month I say bye bye to him and ask him a refund.
Unfortunately, he disappears for good with my money.

Did you ask him a refund?

Seriously... people in this thread have posted results, yet you keep bashing him? Come on now.

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I find it quite odd that these few "students" that keep posting here saying negative things have almost zero post count. Hmmmmm. Makes me scratch my head. (Admittedly I don't have a thousand posts)

Yet a moderator from the forum just messaged me asking about the coaching because they had a personal friend go through and said it was great. ???? Makes you scratch your head really and wonder who is actually a student and who isn't. Maybe this moderatore will decide to come forward.

I have had every single question I ever asked answered, and answered quickly and usually with a video response. I have no trouble talking to Luke at all during sessions neither do any of the other students I work with directly on skype and there are a lot of us.

You "students" are simply out to bash I have no doubt. If you really are a student and aren't making money with this coaching then you are truly in the wrong business.

It's simply impossible for the coaching to be this inconsistent between students. Doesn't add up and I don't buy it for a second from personal experience with the program and from working directly with other students on a daily basis. I hope the moderator who was curious actually joins the coaching if he ever opens it up again and provides a real review.

Never ever ! Even I sent email 6-7 times with the same question.

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Yeah right.

i think this is pure c*** all these people talking about they going to coach you ok yeah ok..... seems like the next big thing to take people money

Not in defense of or against this program, but a thought to ponder...

The "students" who have very little posts may have actually been pushed to this forum by an inactive response by the coach himself. If they couldn't get the expected responses/answers from him, perhaps they began a search online for his name, or simply "black hat" which led them here. And, surprise!... they find his name in one of the threads, register an account, and begin commenting on their experience.

It could happen...

My friend let me log into the backoffice so I could watch the videos, and thats all I needed.

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My guess from that statement is that you only saw one or maybe 2 methods at most. There is no way to encompass the coaching program by "logging in to the back office". On top of that the top 3 methods I am working on have no videos or material at all. You have to work with Luke directly. He does that on purpose of course. Best case scenario you saw one small piece of one method.

So logging into one section and thinking you know what you are talking about is completely off. Of course, he isn't taking on any new students anyway. I'd be like some of the other guys in our group who would prefer to spread "it sucks" rumors so nobody else will join. I don't think that's ethical for Luke's sake alone. Our core group wants as few people involved as possible for obvious reasons.

The "students" who have very little posts may have actually been pushed to this forum by an inactive response by the coach himself.

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Oh please I think we have all been around long enough to know better than that.

I'm now up to over $19K already with my new whitehat method since my last update post. I just keep sitting here hitting refresh on my stats. Guess I should get back to work.

He will take your money!

Has nobody realised yet that bhjohn = Luke. Dude, go away, everyone knows you're a scammer, you've taken many peoples money and ran.

It comes down to this. Luke Sample offers a "no questions asked money back guarantee", however, it's clear that he has refused to give refunds to many people. It doesn't matter if someone "doesn't take action" or whatever stupid reason he uses, he says he will give you your money back if you aren't happy but doesn't honor that guarantee.

Scammer. bhjohn is Luke trying to scam more people.

Is this really the case? It sounded good enough and some people had great results.

squiffy said:

As a current student, soon to be an ex-student, I must take issue with you on a couple of statements you have made in Luke's defence.

I have been a student of Lukes for three months and we have spoken on Skype TWICE. That's right .... twice in three months. I sent emails regularly but these never received a response. I tried to book sessions through his appointment system, but spaces were always fully booked.

The true value of Luke is his coaching, but when the coach is not responding to emails for two weeks and you are unable to book a session with him, how do you propose I contact him ????

The impression I get is that if you are a student who is making lots of money and can really fly with a method, you get personal service at a moments notice ( obviously, as it's an income sharing setup ). However, if you are struggling with a method and not producing much income because of it, you slip under his radar into the "can't be bothered to support them" section. Which kind of negates what the term "coach" is all about.

I really had high hopes for the coaching and was looking forward to working with Luke. But I genuinely feel he has too many students and is being stretched to wide. It's like a teacher in a class of 50 children concentrating on the high-acheivers so they get good grades, whilst the strugglers are left at the back of the class to fend for themselves. Which is compeltely unfair considering the cost involved.

Just my honest $0.02c

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This right here has basically NAILED the entire course. This is like the old story from India about the blind men and an elephant. They all touch different parts and describe it uniquely, yet they are all touching the same thing.
If anyone has posted here about how great Luke is, they are obviously successful with the method they received. If they post about how bad he is, for whatever reason/excuse, they were not successful with the method received and he stopped contact with them (also making it very difficult to get their money back!). :tumblewee
This course is a RISK to take. You decide whether or not it's worth that risk.

I suspect, however, there will be some backlash experienced by Luke in the near future as too many disgruntled students/ex-students are pissed with the results or inability to get a refund. :laser:

Perhaps some BBB reporting stuff? Or maybe the creation of cpawealthcoachscam-com or lukesamplescams-com ? He already took a major hit with Paypal due to the chargebacks, so his rep is obviously blemished. Goes, without saying... Do your research and consider other options. :deadhorse:

jimboj said:

Has nobody realised yet that bhjohn = Luke. Dude, go away, everyone knows you're a scammer, you've taken many peoples money and ran.

It comes down to this. Luke Sample offers a "no questions asked money back guarantee", however, it's clear that he has refused to give refunds to many people. It doesn't matter if someone "doesn't take action" or whatever stupid reason he uses, he says he will give you your money back if you aren't happy but doesn't honor that guarantee.

Scammer. bhjohn is Luke trying to scam more people.

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This would not surprise me at all. Be careful of what you say in PMs to bhjohn too!! :listen: If he's not Luke himself, he's definitely working FOR (not WITH) him.


Bottom line... make sure you cover your :bootyshak

jimboj said:

Has nobody realised yet that bhjohn = Luke. Dude, go away, everyone knows you're a scammer, you've taken many peoples money and ran.

It comes down to this. Luke Sample offers a "no questions asked money back guarantee", however, it's clear that he has refused to give refunds to many people. It doesn't matter if someone "doesn't take action" or whatever stupid reason he uses, he says he will give you your money back if you aren't happy but doesn't honor that guarantee.

Scammer. bhjohn is Luke trying to scam more people.

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This thread is getting absolutely hilarious. I'm not affiliated with Luke in anyway. In fact I took Luke's course and even though I learned MANY things, I didn't make my investment back. However, after speaking with the guy over the phone 3 or 4 times I still think he is legit. To think that bhjohn is Luke is a total misconception. Luke Sample does not need anyone to pass themselves off as him. He can come tomorrow and just create a username "Luke Sample". That what he has done on dp, and warrior forum. And believe me the guy has arguments and know how to fight back. If you don't believe me just go do some username research for "Luke Sample" on dp and WF. Then come back here and tell me if the guy does not know what he is talking about.Now, I don't think I have all the answers. The funny thing is depending on where you look at things your perception is different.

WF: Luke Sample is a hero, a guru, a mastermind, a pro
BHW: Luke Sample is a villain, a scammer, a con artist

The truth....hum find out for yourself. Don't just follow the crowd and do your own research.

To give you another example, take Dominate IM, run by Nevark. Everyone here respects Nevark because he is a senior member here. Fair enough. He came up with CPA Greed, etc. Now, go to other forums and tell them that someone sold an ebook for $5000. They will probably say "OMG, he is a villain, a scammer,etc."

Does it mean that Nevark is not legit? No. It means people have different opinions.

I think everyone in IM is on their own journey and that journey is a very personal one. Don't take what people say for granted, make your own mistakes and learn from them. Welcome to Life .

Thanks..................

I think the easiest way to sum up coaching and almost any coaching for that matter is determination. Are you willing to go look it up yourself and try or ask someone what to do. Anything a coach can answer is anything a member can answer. The only difference is that your limited to one answer instead of multiple answers of people who are ACTUALLY in IM. To me coaching is when someone has decided to break from IM and these keeps there revenue. To think about it he probably spends so much time on trying to keep a FEW of his customers happy to keep a FEW people to join, which in turn keeps him a revenue flow. If you have the throw away money and that's what it is throw away money then it's a fast track for you. For other's forum's and testing will get you the same results, you won't hit as fast but your also up $2500 over others who are paying. Not bad mouthing just $2500 is not throw away money unless your already making that money, in which case, why are you in his program

I'm not Luke but I sure would trade my income for his.

I guess some of the others who have spoken highly of Luke on this thread are also Luke. Really misinformed comment.

Doesn't really matter as he isn't taking on new students anyway. Good luck learning this stuff on your own. The methods I'm working on are nowhere on this forum so finding this info just by searching forums is not possible.

Like some others have said you either make a lot of money or you don't with the information. If you do, you love him. If you don't, you hate him and simply can't follow instructions I might add.

On the update, I had an $11K weekend. Of course Luke is a scam and it's monopoly money according to some here.

I think it really comes down to this. Very few dudes on this forum actually take action on anything. They are too busy posting here. If you took the coaching and you couldn't make at least the little $1500 fee or $2500 if you are advanced you are not in the right business. Go sack groceries. I've been nice long enough. It's just getting old now.

LOL, I see you completely avoided addressing what I said. You can say all the excuses you like such as "people not taking action", it doesn't change the fact that Luke doesn't honor his refund guarantee.

His refund guarantee is not "I'll give you your money back as long as you take action". He tells people he will refund if they don't like the coaching but then he doesn't give the refund when they ask for it. That's a scammer.

jimboj said:

LOL, I see you completely avoided addressing what I said. You can say all the excuses you like such as "people not taking action", it doesn't change the fact that Luke doesn't honor his refund guarantee.

His refund guarantee is not "I'll give you your money back as long as you take action". He tells people he will refund if they don't like the coaching but then he doesn't give the refund when they ask for it. That's a scammer.

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I agree. Luke may be teaching people techniques that are making them money but the fact remains that he offers a money back guarantee and doesn't honor it. That is a scammer.

Some other forums may call Nevarc a scammer for charging $5000 but you never hear of him taking a person's money and not delivering.

Biscut said:

I agree. Luke may be teaching people techniques that are making them money but the fact remains that he offers a money back guarantee and doesn't honor it. That is a scammer.

Some other forums may call Nevarc a scammer for charging $5000 but you never hear of him taking a person's money and not delivering.

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Well, I agree with that!! IF it is true that he didnt refund the money to the people who want it, we can say he is a scammer and BHW should put it in Shit list.:angryfire

There is a whole thread devoted to him now on WF under internet-marketing-product-reviews section. Theres a lot of people posting about their experiences.