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Looking for some simple Micro Niche Finder advice

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by coreyfmiller, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. coreyfmiller

    coreyfmiller Junior Member

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    Hey guys,

    I bought Micro Niche Finder a few days ago because of the reviews on this forum. I think I am getting the hang of it pretty decently.

    My question is pretty simple. What are the rough numbers you guys use to determine wether a site is going to be worth the work?

    These are the credentials I have been working with so far

    Domain of .com or .net availability. Just really a personal prefference
    Search count of 5000 or higher.
    Exact Phrase count lower than 60k (this may be high, I dont know)
    MOB below 10 or around there (All I know is lower is better)
    OCI Green Light


    I think my best find so far is 5 different keywords on the same subject

    .coms or .net available
    Total search count for all 5 90,000
    all Exact Phrase count below 30,000
    MOB all below 3
    Big green light all around.

    Is that the kind of thing I should be striving to find?

    Any advice appreciated!
     
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    agente808 Regular Member

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    Everyone has a different formula that works for them, but one thing I would point out:
    If the rest of the numbers look good, I wouldn't discard a keyword (phrase) just because it's not available as an exact match .com/.net - just find a domain name that is close-enough...
     
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    Also be sure to check the cost per click. I like to see it at least $1, but obviously the higher the better.
     
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    Codythebest Senior Member

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    You bought a micro niche finder??

    This is my free way to find micro niche. Example:

    Bee = niche
    Honey bee = M niche
    Honey bee culture = M-I niche
    Honey bee culture in the Andes = M-I-C niche
    Honey bee culture in the west plains of the Andes = M-I-C-R niche
    Honey bee culture in the west Chilean plains of the Andes = M-I-C-R-O niche
    Honey bee culture in the west Chilean plains of the Andes in the middle of the 18th century = Super deeper M-I-C-R-O niche...
     
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  5. coreyfmiller

    coreyfmiller Junior Member

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    Tried that method, works alright. MNF does all the work for you though. Gives you information way quicker than doing it by by hand. At $100 Im more than happy with it! Even for the time saved.

    Just looking for real advice on the numbers though.
     
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    MNF is WELL worth the price. I use it to find and verify all of my keywords and it is one of the best keyword tools I've ever used. BTW Cody, that method is effective but super time consuming...
     
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    Yeah I agree, and in the last 5 days its lead to the purchase of 12 new domains that I otherwise would have over looked or never ever thought of persuing.
     
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    No real advice? Do those that have MNF go after sites and traffic much lower than I posted?
     
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    I use MNF, and as stated above is mostly just what you think...lol no real formula per say. Everyone's is different.

    For MN sites I use the following:
    Local Searches = less then 600 I get rid of, greater then 30k I get rid of (just to cut the kw's some, sometimes I don't get rid of high counts. just depends on my mood :burnout:)
    Then I get SoC for all that's left, and dump all the red.
    Then I usually get Exact Match, and dump anything greater then 100k
    Then get mob and anything yellow above 35 I get rid of.

    Then I just weed out words based on how I feel about them lol, if they are 'buying' keywords or not.

    IMO there is no right or wrong way to do it, I just know I have found plenty gems, and I know that's what I'm comfortable with, after seeing past results. I am sure I miss plenty too...but just use your own system or anyones really.

    I just try to keep the keyword research fairly quick, before I talk myself out of a market. If I didn't set filters then I could literally sit on MNF all day /(o.0)\

    Then it doesn't matter what the formula is, cause I didn't get anything done haha.

    Whatever you decide, just take action, get your feet wet, and after awhile you will find out what works for you.

    Great program though.
     
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    Ok, there is one crucial ingredient missing from is this thread regarding MNF and that is the KW search number, do you search on exact, phrase or broad.....

    I made many mistakes in the early years using this tool by using broad or phrase and it turned out the searches were not worth going after.

    I always only go after 'EXACT' search results which should give you some comfort that there are actually people searching for your term. Oh, and by the way I only go after a KW with a minimum of 4k EXACT searches - for the most part this has worked well for me.
     
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    Good info, I actually have only looked at Exact Phrase.. was kind of wondering about the other two. Im thinking about the same for the minimum keyword searches too around 4k and 5k minimum. THanks for the response!
     
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    Sorry Westee! Missed your post! Sounds kinda like Im hitting some of the same credentials you are. Though I have yet to hit any sites that are under 10k... but its taken a ton of research. I think I litterally hit a gold mine... thats why im kind of searching for answers. Between 10 domains on the same subject I think... probably wrong but judging by the numbers they should generate 2 million hits per year.

    Planning on putting up "respectable looking sites, or trustworthy" getting .70 cents per download... along with adsense in case their not interested.

    Heres hoping! I'll be happy with %1 of those to convert. Comepetition is so far 0.