Looking for some information on selling things over the Internet.

DevTucker · Feb 19, 2015

Hello BlackHatWorld, this is my first thread here (Albeit the introductory thread) and I had a quick question for all of you. I'm not sure if this is the correct section, so please forgive me if I'm wrong, but after analyzing the topics in each board I have concluded that this is my best option.

I'm curious about if anybody here has experience with selling things such as t-shirts, coffee mugs, etc with their "brand" on it. I'm currently in the process of building up a niche-related website as a hobby, but I have some ideas to monetize it. I have quite a few designs made out that I could put on shirts, coffee cups, koozies, and other things that I think some people would purchase, but I'm at a loss when it comes to finding a cheap, efficient way to handle this. If at all possible I am looking for a company that I would give the design to, they would create the shirts upon request and ship them to the customer, and I would earn a %. Other methods of-course involve iron-on designs that I do myself, but I'm not too ecstatic about that.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I have quite a few shirt designs waiting to be sold and I'm sure that some of my traffic would love to have it.

Regards,
Chris.

AaronNZ · Feb 19, 2015

You can contact some of leading hosting site or some affiliate web company as they often giveaway to clients and customer. Try your luck.

Elon Snup · Feb 19, 2015

My first suggestion would be - Build your niche site before jumping into anything.
You don't want to bother with all the merchandising stuff when you don't even have trafic on your website. It takes time to "loyalize" visitors so that they are interested in buying your brand.

First things first buddy. Work before cash.

waynegm · Feb 19, 2015

You can make money selling almost anything ...... but you need to know WHAT you want to sell? Your own stuff? Other peoples stuff? then after that, you need to decide HOW blackhat you want to go... Then you need to decide do you want to research things to sell, get keywords , battle competitors and build an authority site on your niche - OR - do you want to grab some affiliate products from say clickbank or a CPA site, and just harvest a few hundred thousand blogs in that niche and blast comments with a direct shot to your Affiliate Link using thousands of keywords close to your niche, which takes very little research, just time to gather all the data...... What works best for you? That's the question you need to ask and discover..........

There are two types of IM's in my opintion
1. The researcher , builder and evergreen type (grows over time)
2. The Harvester , direct link blaster (if done right, you make money faster, and won't loose your membership)

1 does lots of research, building, articles, SEO and works to get on page 1 of google in specific keywords for one product or product group
2 does little research, uses software to get keywords and auto posts to blogs but does it in massive bulk and then moves on to another product.

You'll figure it out, I am a #2 guy - hate building, love harvesting and using common sense to keep my accounts (affiliate accounts, cpa accounts) active. I suck at research, but I can build my data by harvesting, takes about 24 hours, then I get it all set up and blast away
for a few days.... then I go back to harvesting for my next affiliate link...... The Niche don't matter to me, theres always somebody looking
for what you (or I) are selling ..

PROS 1 - can pay you for a long time to come, build a few of these, and have income coming in while you are doing other things, like whatever you want.

CON 1 - takes lots of work, research, knowledge, trial and error, time consuming and can be 8 to 12 months before good income rolls in, if any income at all, if you did it wrong......

PROS 2 - Fast money, never know what amount you will get, once done right, you will almost write your own paycheck

CON 2 - Need to gather the right data, keywords and blast enough comments to the blogs..... Need to continually harvest to keep money rolling in. Residual income will trickle in from your last campaign(s), but not much and will eventually dry up. Need to keep an abundant amount affiliate links from various CPA sites, Clickbank, CLickSure where ever you can get approved.

Hope this helps
WM

DevTucker · Feb 20, 2015

tayaX said:
My first suggestion would be - Build your niche site before jumping into anything.
You don't want to bother with all the merchandising stuff when you don't even have trafic on your website. It takes time to "loyalize" visitors so that they are interested in buying your brand.

First things first buddy. Work before cash.

What if I told you that I'm not worried about traffic, or my ability to create the website. That I was almost for certain that I would get a decent amount of traffic, or already had it. Would your reply have changed in a way that it would have pointed me more towards what I was looking for?

I've already written my own blogging engine for this project, as I don't like the overall feel of wordpress. I don't have to mess with all of the smashed together code that wordpress provides or worry about breaking something I knew nothing about. I have separate handling for text and video posts as-well as a system set up for publishers to earn money on the website (Outsourcing if you will). I am involved in quite a few of the larger car scenes IRL and shouldn't have any problems getting the website some popularity.

DevTucker · Feb 20, 2015

waynegm said:
You can make money selling almost anything ...... but you need to know WHAT you want to sell? Your own stuff? Other peoples stuff? then after that, you need to decide HOW blackhat you want to go... Then you need to decide do you want to research things to sell, get keywords , battle competitors and build an authority site on your niche - OR - do you want to grab some affiliate products from say clickbank or a CPA site, and just harvest a few hundred thousand blogs in that niche and blast comments with a direct shot to your Affiliate Link using thousands of keywords close to your niche, which takes very little research, just time to gather all the data...... What works best for you? That's the question you need to ask and discover..........

There are two types of IM's in my opintion
1. The researcher , builder and evergreen type (grows over time)
2. The Harvester , direct link blaster (if done right, you make money faster, and won't loose your membership)

1 does lots of research, building, articles, SEO and works to get on page 1 of google in specific keywords for one product or product group
2 does little research, uses software to get keywords and auto posts to blogs but does it in massive bulk and then moves on to another product.

You'll figure it out, I am a #2 guy - hate building, love harvesting and using common sense to keep my accounts (affiliate accounts, cpa accounts) active. I suck at research, but I can build my data by harvesting, takes about 24 hours, then I get it all set up and blast away
for a few days.... then I go back to harvesting for my next affiliate link...... The Niche don't matter to me, theres always somebody looking
for what you (or I) are selling ..

PROS 1 - can pay you for a long time to come, build a few of these, and have income coming in while you are doing other things, like whatever you want.

CON 1 - takes lots of work, research, knowledge, trial and error, time consuming and can be 8 to 12 months before good income rolls in, if any income at all, if you did it wrong......

PROS 2 - Fast money, never know what amount you will get, once done right, you will almost write your own paycheck

CON 2 - Need to gather the right data, keywords and blast enough comments to the blogs..... Need to continually harvest to keep money rolling in. Residual income will trickle in from your last campaign(s), but not much and will eventually dry up. Need to keep an abundant amount affiliate links from various CPA sites, Clickbank, CLickSure where ever you can get approved.

Hope this helps
WM

Thanks for the long post, but the entire OP was about trying to find a company that provides a service similar to what I'm looking for (Allows me to sell shirts, mugs, hats, and pin buttons through them for a profit. I would supply the art that goes on the said objects.)

DevTucker · Feb 23, 2015

I'm going to bump this with a better description of what I'm after:

I would like to be able to sell things such as Shirts and hats through another company that pays me in flat commision or % based.

Shadexpwn · Feb 23, 2015

You could either setup an ecommerce site or be able to sell on eBay easier, but once you build a portfolio of ecommerce sites you can control everything.

I'd stick with eBay as ranking and shipping are both a pain as it will take all your time away from you, unless you enjoy doing both.

QuiverrDave · Feb 23, 2015

Hi Dev, if you want to just do the creative part and leave the time consuming stuff to others I think sites like Cafepress and Teechip. there is another one on the tip of my tongue but it escapes me.

If you can find the right person to work with you I would strongly recommend Etsy to sell apparel because some of the biggest shops there sell these sorts of things. In fact around the holidays the top selling daily shops are all apparel shops. however with Etsy's rules on handmade you may need to get approval for a manufacturer first if you are not making them yourself. shops like these sell as many as a thousand units a day around the holidays and do quite well the rest of the year too.

I'm new here at BHW myself so so I'm not sure if i can link to some of the shops there but if you go to craftcount you can search for top selling shops. I myself have one of the top selling shops on the site which is why I know of them. My wife and I created the fastest growing and most followed shop on the site and manage many of the largest related pages on social media and forums off the site too. We work with a few dozen shops on Etsy to help them promote and for some have taken complete control of the Etsy side of things to allow them time to be creative and create more products without the hassle of dealing with it all themselves. If you have any questions about Etsy let me know. I don't have any experience with the other sites that i mentioned personally but have taken a look at them in the past.

I hope you find what you are looking for.

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