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Long Tail KW Ranking: intitle:"keyword phrase"

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by muchacho, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. muchacho

    muchacho Supreme Member

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    What is the maximum competition I should be aiming for, in order to decide whether it's worth trying to rank high for a long tailed keyword?

    By this I mean the maximum intitle:"Long Tailed Keyword" results before you figure out it's no longer a niche.

    Is there a higher limit?
     
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    What I usually look for is when you search the keyword in Google, if it comes back with less than 300K search results, generally I can rank the term very quickly. Another way to do it would be to put the keyword in quotes "keyword". This way you can see how many true websites you are competing with.
     
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    if it's less then 10k using allintitle:
    then it's less then days work to get top1-2position
     
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    Yes, I put them in quotes when looking. As if the results come back for
    intitle:"Long tail keyword phrase" is a low number, then this surely means your true competition, as the other don't have it in the Page Title?

    What's the different between
    allintitle:"keyword phrase"
    intitle:"keyword phrase"
     
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    bkvxuh Registered Member

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    allintitle: google use
    intitle yahoo use

    :)
     
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    NE1 know of a good research tool to automate the checking of results # for thousands of intitle:"keyword phrase" lookups?
     
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    Is it??

    I thought allintitle meant the exact phrase was returned whereas intitle was an either/or scenario.

    For example if you searched for computer software, allintitle would only return titles that contained computer and software, whereas intitle will return results for computer and/or software.
     
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    So in my above example they should both return the same amount of results?
     
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    Nope!!

    Not sure which example you mean...is it "keyword phrase" ??

    If so, then allintitle will give you results that include both keyword AND phrase.

    Intitle will give you keyword AND phrase; keyword; and, phrase. Hence, this will be a higher result total.

    By the way, I also use MS and am getting considerably different results for the SEOTC in MS compared to allintitle.
     
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    In google 'allintitle:keyword phrase' only returns results with all keywords in the title tag 'intitle:keyword phrase' returns results with any of the keywords in the keyword phrase in. I'm not about yahoo - I just stick to google anwyay!
     
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    intitle:"Blackhat marketing" results = 1990
    allintitle:"Blackhat marketing" again, results = 1990

    intitle:"red widgets" results = 3130
    allintitle:"red widgets" results = 3130

    So when using "" and using a long tailed keyword, I'm not sure how there is a difference?
     
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    From Google:

    Allintitle: finds Web pages in Google web search results that only contain all of the keywords in their title. The keyword should follow with no spaces.

    Intitle: is Google syntax that restricts web search results to only list Web sites that contain a keyword in their title. The keyword should follow with no spaces.


    If we are talking "example long tailed keyword" I'm not yet seeing what the difference between the 2 is.
     
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    There is a difference if you drop the "" which is used for an exact phrase.

    You are getting the same results because you are effectively searching for the same exact phrase twice!


    When searched without the "" is actually...

    intitle:Blackhat marketing results = 18,600
    allintitle:Blackhat marketing results = 95,500

    intitle:red widgets results = 16,600
    allintitle:red widgets results = 6,840,000