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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by VeeGeeN, Jul 5, 2016.

  1. VeeGeeN

    VeeGeeN Regular Member

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    My laptop is getting harder and harder to use with Windows 10, so I'm thinking of moving to Linux.

    Can somebody suggest a good desktop environment other than Ubuntu that they have experience with please.

    I have heard about Wine - how easy is Windows emulation in the program?
     
  2. Capo Dei Capi

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    Linux Mint is pretty good, I've used that several times and have been satisfied. Wine is okay, not everything is fully supported by it, virtualbox you can setup a run windows programs fully in a virtual enviroment.


    http://techlog360.com/2016/03/linux-distro-beginners/
     
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    Linux sucks and is not worth running unless you will be using it to run a server.
     
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    Linux is 1000x better than windows.

    Use ZorinOS if you want to use Wine and other windows compatibility features.
     
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    I can't vouch for any good distros for your purpose, I run CentOS on my 5 VPSs, and I stayed with Windows 7 on my dual monitor machine and do all of my primary work on my Macbook.

    What is the reason you want linux? Is it just because you don't like Windows 10, because that's not really enough of a reason to take the jump.
     
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    if you want to change, Linux will work really well.
     
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    i'm using hanthana linux hanthana.org. has almost everything and its fedora based.
     
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    Hey VeeGeen,

    +1 linux mint is really good for older pc's.

    Wine is not hard at all once you get down how you use it, however, keep in mind not every program will work. Depending on what your necessities are, even downgrading to windows xp might be an option too. I still use it on my hp mini 100 and i still do Photoshop, Youtube, surfing, skype, office, etc.
     
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    ive heard about ElementaryOS, take a look in their website,
     
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    If you're a developer, you can use RHEL at no cost. That, along with Mint, is one of the better distros
     
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    I have run boxes with Gentoo Linux, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and Debian.

    I would also suggest Mint if Ubuntu is a no no. Mint is easy to set up and looks quite nice out-of-the-box.
     
  12. JustUs

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    If you run many SEO packages from a Laptop, or a desktop, then you will be running Windows because there are few SEO programs written for anything else.

    If you do not want Ubuntu, then do not run Mint.

    One of the most effective penetration and hacking platform is Kali. Kali is Debian based. Sarge that maintained the Debian repositories died and with no distro maintainer. Debian may be a dying distro. On the other hand, Ubuntu is also Debian based, so that Debian may not be in trouble.

    To me, all Linux distros are about the same. The only difference is the packages each distro contains. It is those packages that set each distro apart, pretty much the only differences between distros.

    Slackware 14.2 has just been released. However, this version is more complex than many people can handle because you have to compile and install everything - there are no prebuilt distros of Slackware, though to get people started, they may have a runable kernel

    You can run Windows OS inside of a Linux host virtual machine.

    Linux distros I have used in the past.
    Debian
    Ubuntu
    Slackware 10
    Fedora/Red Hat
    Cent OS.
     
  13. VeeGeeN

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    I've used Ubuntu before on this laptop, it ran super smooth barely needed configuration and generally was user friendly - so I already have an idea what Ubuntu is about.

    I don't use loads of SEO programs I could use a VPS for most of the ones that I do use. However, I do need Photoshop so that's why my question about Wine and emulating Windows in some form.

    Cheers for the replies, as of right now I've rolled back to some Windows 7 Alienware disc I had lying around
     
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    The desktop experience that gives you Windows will not be most like similar as on Linux.I used Mint and I must say I'm not impressed.
    Out matrices are more like Windows-user leve,Linux is server administration level except if you dont use your Linux for such tasks
     
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    Its good thought buddy, as per your requirement to run Photoshop u should stick to Windows as of now.
     
  16. JustUs

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    If you have decent hardware, then running windows as a guest OS inside of a Linux based virtual machine would allow you to use Photoshop. People will tell you that Gimp is close to Photoshop. My experience with Gimp suggests otherwise.

    With decent hardware there is little detectable lag in a virtual machine versus a native machine. With mediocre hardware, I would not suggest running Photoshop in a virtual machine due to the lag.

    I use an Intel 4770k I7 CPU, 20 gigs ram, and enough harddisk space to make you delirious. When running Photoshop in a Linux host, I can feel no lag from a native OS.

    That would be your best option for a controllable Windows environment to run Photoshop.
     
  17. Capo Dei Capi

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    Another option besides virtual machine would be to do dual booting.


     
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    If your unsure if you can run a software on Wine/Crossover you can always check using their compatibility checker.

    Compatibility checker
     
  19. JustUs

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    The problem is that the OP is concerned about the problems that W10 introduces to computing. Since spyware was not mentioned, I made the assumption that it is the compelled updates and the inconveniences associated with a forced reboot to install the updates. This is not even considering that many of the MS updates are barely tested and can break computers and force a bunch of OS repairs (AND, I have had hardware destroyed) at times when it is most inconvenient and you only want to get work done.

    Dual booting, though at times the best cross platform solution, perpetuates the problems above.

    I believe that the OP wants to shut down the constant updates. The only sure fire way to do this is not to connect to the internet. The second way is to install a VMS, install a KMS activator, and then prohibit the OS from contacting the 1500 or so MS servers through IP tables.

    If a person does not want to install Linux and already has 10, then they can slow the updates by setting their internet connection as metered in the Network and Sharing Center. This will not stop the chatter to the MS servers, but it will prevent updates being downloaded.

    At the present time, even deliberately installing an OS other than W10 will not stop W10 being downloaded and very possibly installed. Unless, you shut off updates. While MS is claiming to change the W10 install nag screen to not install as a default, MS is also unwilling to give a time frame when it will roll out.

    The next major W10 update is scheduled for Aug. 2, 2016. At this time, the free update offer will end. I am skeptical that the update will end the nag to update because MS stands to gain much money from selling data derived from users computers. While the MS spyware has been back ported to W8.1, 8.0, 7 (and service packs) and Vista, unlike W10 it can be uninstalled.

    Many do not care about how chatty W10 is about their conduct. They probably should be concerned about the spying if they do any SEO. MS collects that information. While perhaps not all ducks that have Scrapebox are engaging in link building, it would be a fair guess that if you have GSA Search Engine Ranker that you are involved in link building. MS collects that information and more - the links you have accessed and built. If you have other programs or even source code (I collect crime kits) for crime kits or do some hacking related functions, then MS may just give the information to some three letter agencies that can make life interesting. Even worse, with spyware and keyloggers built into the OS, why should the three letter agencies get a warrant to find whats on your computer? Why not just go to MS with a gag order. Perhaps my paranoid string was pulled, but do remember that MS settled a class action lawsuit with the DOJ by agreeing to install spyware into Windows XP that was sold or torrented in China. At any rate, how valuable is it to any company, including MS, to know that you practice blackhat? Your access to certain sites would tell the enemy what sites to devalue, and it would be your OS that gave them that information.

    Moving beyond the tin foil antics and practical concerns, it was revealed over the last few days that MS has built in the means to turn W10 into a subscription service - pay fee or your computer will not work. MS denies that they intend to activate the subscription service.... But preparation is the best defense in this matter.
     
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