LINKS SUCK

WARNING: Rant Incoming!

99% of the links I bought on BHW SUCK ASS!

Niche edits/link inserts, Guest Posts, PBN's, "Foundational" Links (what a joke) - All Terrible!

90% of the guest posts I found in places like reddit and small agencies for a lower price.

Almost all niche edits on useless pages with no internal links and no link juice.

Weak sites, made exclusively to sell links.

Awful.

Not saying that I've tried everything and that all of them are shit, but just take a look at the link building section.

Just look at the pinned BSTs on there, look at the amount of likes, amount of replies. Look at the OUTRAGEOUS PRICES! My god.

IMO it's not worth outsourcing off page SEO.

Build your own in house team for link building. Choose the sites, and more importantly pages you want to get links from by yourself.

It's a much better investment long term in terms of results and eventually economics. And that's all that matters.

Learn from them, not rely on them.

welcome to the club pal

Really

hit the fan!!

Outreach to people within your nice and offer them to trade links or buy links directly through contacting quality website owners.
What I discovered is that quality > quantity, I rather get one strong "natural" (not really since paid/traded) than 10 weak useless links.

if you have a problem with a service providing poor quality links
speak to the seller via pm, ask for a replacement or refund - i would
if they refuse - report them here for mod to look at it
https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/dispute-resolution.31/

I understand where you're coming from.

You're not exactly the first person to post a rant thread regarding the quality of links from this forum and elsewhere.


But looking past the heat, I think I can make out the real issue here.

A lot of people are under the impression that for them to rank well on Google, they have to buy links or take matters into their own hands and build links.


But what if I told you that you can still rank even if you don't build links.

It all boils down to the content that you produce.

If you are targeting the right keywords, you've structured your website properly, and you've picked out the right sub niche, you will be able to rank fairly quickly with absolutely no link building.


The problem with link building is that you're at the mercy of another website.

And if they are selling links, they are at the mercy of Google.

Once Google finds out that they're selling links, it's game over.


That is the 800-pound gorilla in the room that a lot of people are simply ignoring.

But that's the risk you run with buying links.


Building links is not much better.

So focus on what you can control.

Focus on the experience you can give visitors to your pages.

blackbeans said:

I understand where you're coming from.

You're not exactly the first person to post a rant thread regarding the quality of links from this forum and elsewhere.


But looking past the heat, I think I can make out the real issue here.

A lot of people are under the impression that for them to rank well on Google, they have to buy links or take matters into their own hands and build links.


But what if I told you that you can still rank even if you don't build links.

It all boils down to the content that you produce.

If you are targeting the right keywords, you've structured your website properly, and you've picked out the right sub niche, you will be able to rank fairly quickly with absolutely no link building.


The problem with link building is that you're at the mercy of another website.

And if they are selling links, they are at the mercy of Google.

Once Google finds out that they're selling links, it's game over.


That is the 800-pound gorilla in the room that a lot of people are simply ignoring.

But that's the risk you run with buying links.


Building links is not much better.

So focus on what you can control.

Focus on the experience you can give visitors to your pages.

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here in the real world we like to make money so we buy links

Yeah I have mixed feelings about buying links here.
The last one was 5 guestposts on sites with max DA and traffic for around $700 after discount I saw in the newsletter. Got 2 guestposts on normal websites which were niche relevant and 3 which were basically guestposts on generalist guestposts farms on expired domains.
I can't really complain as I got exactly what I paid for. I got the DA and the traffic on those websites as described in the post.
But I would not have bought guestposts on a luxury PBN at that price as I know the value will decrease massively in 1 or 2 years. The traffic on those guesposts farms, despite sometimes being nice, is just temporary till Google trashes it. I naively thought as I was buying a guestpost on a website with traffic, the linkbuilding on the website was organic. Got pushed by the SEO guy to buy extra service from him before he had finished the job. Glad I didn't do it.

To be fair, I got a very good quality niche edit backlink for 100$ last Black Friday after 50% discount with a service I used before. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the website I got for 100 bucks. The guy was making real efforts to be niche relevant, which is a big bonus when you pay an intermediate. Getting links from generalist websites talking about everything is just lazy and without added value.

So yeah, I think I will give up guestposts on blackhatforum for good as it is not worth it if you don't know exactly the websites you will get, just nice metrics which can be tricked a bit too easily.
Looks good on the paper but better do it yourself and skip the middleman. Always ask the urls where you will get your links from. You save yourself some money and you will get much more relevant and durable links for your SEO.
The guestpost business is really big and many websites will get trashed by Google for abusing it. Avoid the websites abusing it.

I still keep the only niche edit service I found relevant here. It was good value for the money compared to others. But most middlemen here are just doing a metrics game for marketing reasons. Even on Fiverr which is trash most of the time, I found a few gems after asking url for guestpost. So always take time to know where you get your links exactly from.
Overall, kind of disappointed about buying links in English here as I was previously buying French backlinks in other platforms. The quality of backlinking services is high on the French market with very innovative platforms to buy your links from.

And don't get fooled about huge discounts and nice Mickael Jordan on testosterone infographics on this forum, you are just paying the normal price or even more after discount.