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djadstar

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Google seem to of added an algorithmic function to find link networks. A network which has literally been around years and years and has never fully been discovered has been completely deindexed this is thousands of sites. When they have found it before its literally been a maximum of 20 sites taken down.

Just thought id put it out there.

Anyone else seen anything?
 
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Well it really depends what kind of network it is. If it is a public network that is on sale for the whole world to see then obviously Google will take measures to close it down. Just go for more private and exclusive networks.
 
I second the private network advice.. Out of Site Out Of Mind.....
 
This network was not public . Its been around for around 5 years and never been discovered until now. You may ask how I got in which to be honest i wasn't completely in yet i just know someone who is. I've been into the network and seen how good it is. Thousands of sites and they've never been discovered as i said a maximum of 20 at a time. They've taken the whole network down.

I wont be saying what the network is if you PM me and there is no point saying as its down now anyway but it was just a friendly warning that they are really starting to up the ante on networks.
 
With link networks, it's best to use separate server IPs. Otherwise you run the risk of being caught.
 
Yeah they were scattered all over the place everything varied. Google is gradually getting smarter, well I say smarter they'll have to find a solution to the next method.
 
Google is after link networks now. SAPE just got targeted too. Networks are the best way to game their search engine and the more they bring down, the less of a factor they are. Private networks just shouldn't be your primary link source.
 
yes... they have to be very smart to see 200 sitewides going to the same site, visit one of the hosts, grab another sitewide link and check it and see that the same 200 sites host the same 10-20 sitewides :) ... OMG Google you Nancy Drew of link networks discovery :)

djadstar said:
Yeah they were scattered all over the place everything varied. Google is gradually getting smarter, well I say smarter they'll have to find a solution to the next method.
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Eh... we'll see... None of mine are de-indexed yet. However, if several people had access to the network, it wasn't "private"... which leaves room for G to find it.

I'm not convinced they have an algorithm though, because there have been reports of Un-natural link messages being sent to people with natural, legitimate links. This shows that while they may be developing one... it's certainly not ready for prime-time.
 
seo-addict said:
Eh... we'll see... None of mine are de-indexed yet. However, if several people had access to the network, it wasn't "private"... which leaves room for G to find it.

I'm not convinced they have an algorithm though, because there have been reports of Un-natural link messages being sent to people with natural, legitimate links. This shows that while they may be developing one... it's certainly not ready for prime-time.
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I assume they have some sort of alert system with IP's that have links to eachother. It makes sense because of all the people that have been getting their networks penalized.
 
Perhaps if you had all your sites hosted on 1/2 accounts, G could discover a network pretty easily.
I spread my sites around like 10+ servers, and my network is across 10+ SEO hosts.

Finding a footprint on my network would be extremely hard for G to do algorithmically.

SnakePliskin said:
I assume they have some sort of alert system with IP's that have links to eachother. It makes sense because of all the people that have been getting their networks penalized.
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paid links always work and will always work in the near future

it happens that your network was taken out and not that all networks have been taken out

i have been apart of a network for years as well and all of their sites are still up and going strong. it is important to make sure the networks you join arent cutting corners.

while the one i use is expensive all the sites seem "normal" and it takes a much harder look to see whats up with it.

highly publisized networks always will get deinedexed
 
djadstar said:
Google seem to of added an algorithmic function to find link networks. A network which has literally been around years and years and has never fully been discovered has been completely deindexed this is thousands of sites. When they have found it before its literally been a maximum of 20 sites taken down.

Just thought id put it out there.

Anyone else seen anything?
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Not sure how big this network is, but I've seen case studies showing SEO hosting (aka using your domain as your nameserver, supposed different IPs) has been devalued. Google has been giving network sites hosted like this less and less power. I just moved my entire network to diff. IPs. Luckily it wasn't that big of a network, but yeah they are doing everything they can to identify and devalue blog networks of all sizes.
 
I am in the process of moving all my domains onto separate hosts just to avoid this issue. That's on top of having used CDNs to spread IPs all over North America and Europe.
 
Such a silly fear.... Fear, FUD... Whatever you call it. I had this fear in 2010... Google isn't magically de-valuing SEO hosting. Sorry bro, lose the FUD.

Laubster said:
Not sure how big this network is, but I've seen case studies showing SEO hosting (aka using your domain as your nameserver, supposed different IPs) has been devalued. Google has been giving network sites hosted like this less and less power. I just moved my entire network to diff. IPs. Luckily it wasn't that big of a network, but yeah they are doing everything they can to identify and devalue blog networks of all sizes.
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Heres my method with networks:

I have my own personal blog network, each host only hosting a maximum of 2 sites.

These hosts aren't connected to me, and aren't SEO hosting - this is regular cheap 2 dollar hosting.

Works like a charm, try it yourself.
 
burnett4congress said:
I am in the process of moving all my domains onto separate hosts just to avoid this issue. That's on top of having used CDNs to spread IPs all over North America and Europe.
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every network i have been apart of that uses this kind of strategy hasnt been killed

but these networks go beyond just spreading on different hosts. they have real looking website, dont spin garbage content, and go above and beyond to make things really look real.

cant say that for many services i have tried out but there are a few that do offer this kind of service. kinda like finding a needle in a haystack.
 
I still use Scrapebox & Xrumer 7, with enough of that + some manual links here and there, you can still do good.
 
Simply put, the networks are eventually found because of the site that is gaining a link on these networks. Any site with links across a network just uncovers the whole thing. The bottom line is, if you use a network accept it may be canned and you may lose your site. The next option is to just build your own network which very likely will never be hit if you do it right, Since you control all outbound links.
 
Voidray said:
Simply put, the networks are eventually found because of the site that is gaining a link on these networks. Any site with links across a network just uncovers the whole thing. The bottom line is, if you use a network accept it may be canned and you may lose your site. The next option is to just build your own network which very likely will never be hit if you do it right, Since you control all outbound links.
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Yes that is a risk but I am more inclined to say it's laziness and or lack of knowledge on how to setup a proper network and maintain it by the owners.

I always make sure I take a look at network sites taht have been killed and try and find the commonality between the sites. More often than not these networks make blatant and down right lazy errors.

Fully copied content, spun garbage content, same content throughout the network, provide full reports to clients with links (fucking duh!), seo hosting, one host, not private whois, simialr pages on each domain in the network, stupid footprints, obvious looking sites, all links are anchor text links.

Networks fucking crush it with Google which is why they target them. The thing is the owners cant cut corners which more often than not they do. Once you fidn a network that works hold it tight. I found one over two years ago and they havent had one site deindexed since I started using them. However they dont advertise and its obvious that they arent in it for the fast cash and risking the network.
 
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