Link Farm Evolution -- Any Reviews?

darenet said:

I bought it on a server and requested a refund (not that it's not good it's great it does what it says) but it's that I didn't expect it to be 'so black hat'.

Unfortunately the owner told that they do not issue refund if you got your product via an affiliate? I wasn't warned of this particular 'exception' before. So I guess busin3ss will clear some things up for us and we'll make a deal about the refund peacefully.

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nowimhere said:

Thanks guys, I have read this thread and got to say....

Whoever does not read this thread and ask questions, will have
reputation taken away from them.

Which is lame in my opinion.

I guess these guys are not all to keen on giving good customer service.
You know the basics, answering potential customers questions and all.

I come to this thread to read up.

Leave a question like literally two weeks ago.

Now I get reputation taken away for asking about a product?
Without you even answering my question?
And again, like two weeks ago?

What do you guys think that that one little comment effected your sales
or something? Asking what your product is about?

Well thanks guys for clarifying for me, now I do know, without a
doubt what kind of people are behind this service....

I want nothing to do with them.

Thanks guys, for taking rep away from a post made 2 weeks ago asking
about your product. Sure, I should have read the thread.

But you should NOT be calling your interested clients idiots.

Which is what you called me AFTER you took reputation away.

So again. Thanks for nothing.

Really revealing yourselves in this way, just has totally
made my day.

I hope everyone, if they read only one post from this thread reads this one.

If you answered my question it could have improved your sales.

So I guess you guys are just bitter that you dont have sales,
and are just looking for a scapegoat.

Placing the BLAME on someone that really didn't do anything bad.

Now as a customer, (or at least a OLD potential one)
I have the full right to come here and let all other potential clients of yours
know the experience that I have had with you guys.

So again. Best of luck to you guys, I hope you
guys smarten up and learn from your acts.

Everyone knows that if you are going to sell a service on a forum that you will
more than likely have to answer some questions more than once.

So if you can't tell already from the length of this post, compared to the last original one (like one sentence asking what this was all about)

You can tell. I am not a happy dude.

Just try providing a service where feedback from everyone including
potential customers, is good feedback. I think we can all agree that
that is a good business model.

I can only deem your actions as juvenile and immature.

So I personally am going to stay a long way away from you guys.

Like seriously call me a idiot after you take action against me,
probably not that good of a more there bud.

Just to let you know. Bud.

Try treating your customers with more respect, and maybe they will
buy from you.

Otherwise, I dont think this whole online business stuff is going to
work out very very for you in the long run.

This all to me is practical usable advice that I hope you take and use.

Otherwise, I will simply be happy never talking to you guys again.
Thats how strongly I feel about this incident.

Thanks for nothing by the way.

-Dave

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First after installation I couldn't get to the login screen. Eventually after some back and forth with support over a couple days I was able to get to the login screen. Then after clicking login I was met with a blank page. Again a couple days of back and forth, giving them FTP access, and I was able to login and actually see the software for the first time.

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busin3ss said:

Thanks for the honest review.



However this is not a bug or anything, you didn't follow the installation instructions correctly

About the posting/creating on WPMU part. Have you tried Tumblr, Blogger, Pligg or any other supported platform?

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playpen said:

My review.

First of all, let me say that normally ... I wouldn't try to promote something that (when successfully promoted) would cause me more competition. As far as I'm concerned, the less people using this tool the better for me. This is my first post here, I'm a busy guy, I don't typically spend my time posting at forums, I usually just lurk. That being said, link farm evolution is really such an amazing thing that the designers deserve a review.

First my issues, then my experience after I got it installed properly. I'm not complaining about the installation issues, just explaining them to help anyone else if they experience the same issues.

I tried to install this on windows server 2003, WAMP server. After installation all I received was a blank page. I emailed support and had extremely helpful responses always within 15 minutes of sending an email.

As it turns out, the current version of WAMP server is 5.3.0 and it doesn't have ioncube loaders. I was given the login to their private area where there were instructions for setting up WAMP server. It involved me having to uninstall WAMP 2.0, and reinstalling WAMP 1.7.4, which had a previous verion of PHP that has ioncube loaders. Pain in the butt to do, especially on a production server with many live sites ... but I was able to get it fixed in about an hour, and it was well worth the trouble.

Second problem I ran into, WAMP 1.7.4 doesn't come with ioncube automatically loaded. After following instructions in that private area I got it installed, took maybe 15 minutes.

I started to create blogs. Started by making 2000 blogs. When completed, I had 1096 blogs created but not activated. Started activating the blogs and now I'm down to 593 with 120 that still need confirmation (which will yield maybe 60% activated out of that last 120 ... when all is said and done I will have better than 25% of the 2000 blogs I started trying to set up. Very impressive, not complaining about that at all.

Something people should be aware of ... my third issue (which wasn't really a problem), after going great for hours and hours it just stalled. It stalled and I thought I broke something on my end, the cron page was still going but nothing happened for about 3 hours. What happened was their email confirmation servers were bombarded and stopped processing the emails. I went to sleep, by the time I woke up in the morning it was processing them again.

So that was an overview of the problems I encountered, hopefully that will help someone get past the same issues if they encounter them.

Next issue, is it worth $297? Holy cow, if it cost $1000 I would have gone for it. Lets look at the different things you get ...

1) List of (constantly updated) wpmu and pligg sites to create domains on. Thousands upon thousands of different IP addresses. I used to create wpmu sites by hand and it was a pain in the butt to be honest, just finding them took forever. I would have paid $297 just to be given such a long list of thousands of constantly updated WPMU and pligg sites.

2) Email confirmation and setup of new wpmu sites. They handle the emails, they handle changing the blog theme, they delete those damn blogroll links that need to be deleted every time, they handle the captchas for a price so low its virtually nonexistant. If I had to get an employee that would do nothing but sit there all week long starting up new blogs, typing captchas, confirming emails, it would be worth $297 and they couldn't keep up with what this program will do.

3) Blog management. I wrote my own jetspinner-like PHP function a while ago and my grand plan was to write something like link farm evolution, taking spun text and posting them to blogs. They organize it so well, and I'm totally impressed with the way I can modify all the blogroll links and post to / manage all my sites so easily. A tool that would do only this (even if I had to find my own WPMU blogs and create them myself) would be worth $297 to me.

4) Pligg posting to advertise the blogs. It really is amazing, super easy to get backlinks to your blogs to start getting them indexed. They have captcha breaking built into it. Again, this alone worth $297 to me.

5) Everything I haven't even played with yet. The content creation tools, the fact that I have free updates. I don't know whether they'll charge for major upgrades, like if they implement livejournal or some other new systems, but to me they'd be worth the cost of upgrades.

Right now I have about 500 blogs that are set up, took me about a day to get them arranged and that day was just letting automated things do their job, not that I had to spend any time during the day to set things up. My only real work is spitting out the spinner articles. I can totally manage 500 or 1500 blogs with this software no problem.

This is a sweet system ... I would NOT want to be competing against this system within my niches, at least not without the chance to compete back using link farm evolution. I don't make a penny if you buy, in fact I probably will lose money if this thing becomes oversaturated and as a result, google does something to dampen its impact. Its worth the price.

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blackieman said:

There was a question asked earlier, and there was no reply so I like to ask this too.

We buy a tool that lasts for a while. Regular WP has closed XML-RPC by default (you have to go in and enable it). So soon, MU's will have XML-RPC turned off (my guess) specially after folks start to use a tool like this a bit too much .. so what happens to this tool.

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busin3ss said:

LFE will turn XML-RPC on automatically.

WPMU is just a small part of it.

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blackieman said:

xml-rpc needs to be turned on by the website. If not turned on, then no way to post to that using this protocol. My 2cents recommendation for your long term biz: login as normal users do (via program) just like SENuke. Harder to program, but would last a longer time.

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busin3ss said:

And you don't need to be tech savvy, the only part you need some tech knowledge (and we have extensive guides and we even do it for you for free) it's in the installation process. You know, setting up databases and permissions like any other script.

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