Lewi is a blackmailer, justify yourself!

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That's a lousy retaliation.. doesn't cut the cake. Biased made-up chat logs, sympathetic notes... etc. Please. If you confirm the authenticity of the OP's claims and the chat log provided, then there's nothing you can say to undo what's done. You tried to soliciate (SP?) money by blackmail, simple. That doesn't look healthy at all. P.S. I know I'm not in the position to say who cuts the cake.
 
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Lewi, I'll vote for ya buddy -_^

It seems that people jump to conclusions pretty quick in this forum. From what I can see from his previous posts, he seems like a legit guy.

Oh yeah and i at least thought my contributions and good previous rep here would have more people in favour of seeing both sides but it looks like alot of you have jumped on the early train and headed straigt for trolling village. (even had a personal threat from an executive here just because of this thread (maybe this will make him see both sides))

Mistakes happen. People slip and fall. Personally, I would hate to see Lewi on the ban bus. Please don't ban Lewi!

Him: No i dont want the list because i need to have the full list first before i pay
Me: went off the tolly completely as this guy has wasted 6 or more hours of my time setting this all up for him and turns out he had no intention in paying at all.... (for you people who can use 6 hours of your time efficently to earn money you know how important those hours are)...

Usually, you would pay first in order to receive something. It does not go the other way around.

BTW, I'm not a forum expert or anything but what exactly is longevity? I'm on BHW every day and almost on for hours and my longevity is 7%. Not really sure how this can take into account for anything.

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Thanks for the support Mp3Mage appreciate it.

Just decided to read through the chat logs and that is about the last hour or so of conversation.... my brief version of the chats is much better than me seeing if my pc saved pages and pages of chat that could be faked easily and that no one would read....

However you guys and girls will make your own decisions.... i would formally aplogise to him but it seems that he has allready jumped on the train too quick and decided to take action against me (Note: i have taken no actions).

So now i ask you who is in the wrong?
Do actions speak louder than words or words louder than action?
(starting to sound like a court of law but its true actions allways speak louder than words).
 
You still attempted to blackmail him.

get your accounts banned if you dont pay $400 is blackmail.

And why are you doing 6 hours of work without payment? Thats kind of insane..... I stop answering after about 10 minutes if its clear they just want something free.
 
Hey peoples, suppose youve been long awaiting my response here... was happily watching a movie im afraid hence the slow reply but hey im here now to gie my side of the case... will make it a shorter version than i gave to pofecker because i know how many of you hate long posts....

enjoy guys and girls :)

So... the chat log = 100% true (well i aint read it all and i doubt any of you have either) but basicly it looks true from a quick glance. Dont know if its every convo ive had with this guy but hey i will give you a low down now.

Him: I wanna buy an email list
Me: Okay thats XXX and has this this and that
Him: okay perfect will buy that BUT first i need something to send them with
Me: me goes off and talks to a friend.... talk talk talk.... get him a great deal on VPS server and cpanel free for the first month. Oh and emailing software uploaded and configured all inclusive.
Him: Okay i need help.... help me.... i dont understand
Me: (thinking okay well he is going to be giving me XXX for the emails like he agreed before so a few hours wont matter for support etc
Him: oh i still dont understand
Me: more talking with my friend.... taught him all about crons and set them up
Him: Oh XXX is a lil bit expensive
Me: I re-explain why its that price (which is damn cheap btw) and then okay he kinda agrees
Him: Urrrrrrm i want to use them before i pay
Me: not possible then you could just run off and use them yourself without paying
Him: Oh no god will get me or you if either of us do that etc etc etc...... i just want to see the bounce rate (had allready given him a guaranteed 90%+ no bounce or money back but no)
Me: okay then lets sort out a deal i will take a smaller deposit (1/3 of the price) and then you can pay the rest after (that leaves me still with a bit of money if he runs off).
Him: Oh no i want the emails to try before i pay anything (more god stories)....
Me: Wonders if this guy is trying to scam me after i give him 3 different ways to settle this and he refuses each and hes the one with no rep here at all and has given nothing to the community. Anyhow i carry on a lil bit more.
Him: No i dont want the list because i need to have the full list first before i pay
Me: went off the tolly completely as this guy has wasted 6 or more hours of my time setting this all up for him and turns out he had no intention in paying at all.... (for you people who can use 6 hours of your time efficently to earn money you know how important those hours are)...

Okay some of you may understand now.... but for the ones of you that dont this probably sounds like complete bullshit to you but the truth is the truth... what do i have to loose hey?
The other reason i went of the trolly or de-railed was because my grandfather has just recently passed away (who lives in the UK) and so was hoping to have that money to pay for the trip over for the funeral. Now its going on my card which at this time (credit crunch) aint the best of things especially as we are nearing xmas too. That and also i was in the middle of moving house (finished moving in today). So very stressfull already without the help of time wasters and 'scammers' if you like such as himself.

Now then... regarding my address im afraid people who live close by that i havent lived there for 2 years and do actually live in france.

Oh yeah and i at least thought my contributions and good previous rep here would have more people in favour of seeing both sides but it looks like alot of you have jumped on the early train and headed straigt for trolling village. (even had a personal threat from an executive here just because of this thread (maybe this will make him see both sides))

Anyhow people hope you enjoyed reading my side of the 'story' so to speak and vote lewi in the national elections LOL

peace

Oh finally you replied with all crap. Why don't you just post the exact conversation as i did and stop your god and bla bla bla stories?

Guess what? You can't because half of your story is a crap. I didn't ask the list of emails before i paid but just told u to send a test email to check the bounce rate and also how responsive the list is in my niche. Do your homework and why don't you check my previous thread on buying the email list. I clearly said that need to test the list before buying it.

And when the deal is not done, so not. I didn't force you to set up the email server (plus it is not yours), i asked for your help and u did, so that's it. We haven't even finalised the deal on the email stuff alright.

PLUS if the deal is not done, what rights you have to blackmail me huh? Guess what people, he just messaged me 10 minutes ago in IM and said he saw my thread and said "who lewi?" . Take your lies elsewhere alright.

No one gives a damn about you losing your grandfather and give that as a stupid reason behind all this. I lost my dad 6 months ago, need money too but didn't go as low as you did asshole.

Btw mod, there is one way to proof who is telling the truth. Why don't tell him to post exact conversation happened between us rather than his own "bla bla bla". I can even provide screenshots of his conversation with me, i have it saved in my pc.

Hey doesn't mean you have a better rep than me makes you an angle alright. Bumping around posts + putting down noobs is your game, not mine. More "thanks" and post counts doesn't mean whatever you said is true, proof it!

Mod if you give me the permission, I can put the screenshots of my convo with this blackmailer right here right now.
 
Hey peoples, suppose youve been long awaiting my response here... was happily watching a movie im afraid hence the slow reply but hey im here now to gie my side of the case... will make it a shorter version than i gave to pofecker because i know how many of you hate long posts....

enjoy guys and girls :)

So... the chat log = 100% true (well i aint read it all and i doubt any of you have either) but basicly it looks true from a quick glance. Dont know if its every convo ive had with this guy but hey i will give you a low down now.

Him: I wanna buy an email list
Me: Okay thats XXX and has this this and that
Him: okay perfect will buy that BUT first i need something to send them with
Me: me goes off and talks to a friend.... talk talk talk.... get him a great deal on VPS server and cpanel free for the first month. Oh and emailing software uploaded and configured all inclusive.
Him: Okay i need help.... help me.... i dont understand
Me: (thinking okay well he is going to be giving me XXX for the emails like he agreed before so a few hours wont matter for support etc
Him: oh i still dont understand
Me: more talking with my friend.... taught him all about crons and set them up
Him: Oh XXX is a lil bit expensive
Me: I re-explain why its that price (which is damn cheap btw) and then okay he kinda agrees
Him: Urrrrrrm i want to use them before i pay
Me: not possible then you could just run off and use them yourself without paying
Him: Oh no god will get me or you if either of us do that etc etc etc...... i just want to see the bounce rate (had allready given him a guaranteed 90%+ no bounce or money back but no)
Me: okay then lets sort out a deal i will take a smaller deposit (1/3 of the price) and then you can pay the rest after (that leaves me still with a bit of money if he runs off).
Him: Oh no i want the emails to try before i pay anything (more god stories)....
Me: Wonders if this guy is trying to scam me after i give him 3 different ways to settle this and he refuses each and hes the one with no rep here at all and has given nothing to the community. Anyhow i carry on a lil bit more.
Him: No i dont want the list because i need to have the full list first before i pay
Me: went off the tolly completely as this guy has wasted 6 or more hours of my time setting this all up for him and turns out he had no intention in paying at all.... (for you people who can use 6 hours of your time efficently to earn money you know how important those hours are)...

Okay some of you may understand now.... but for the ones of you that dont this probably sounds like complete bullshit to you but the truth is the truth... what do i have to loose hey?
The other reason i went of the trolly or de-railed was because my grandfather has just recently passed away (who lives in the UK) and so was hoping to have that money to pay for the trip over for the funeral. Now its going on my card which at this time (credit crunch) aint the best of things especially as we are nearing xmas too. That and also i was in the middle of moving house (finished moving in today). So very stressfull already without the help of time wasters and 'scammers' if you like such as himself.

Now then... regarding my address im afraid people who live close by that i havent lived there for 2 years and do actually live in france.

Oh yeah and i at least thought my contributions and good previous rep here would have more people in favour of seeing both sides but it looks like alot of you have jumped on the early train and headed straigt for trolling village. (even had a personal threat from an executive here just because of this thread (maybe this will make him see both sides))

Anyhow people hope you enjoyed reading my side of the 'story' so to speak and vote lewi in the national elections LOL

peace


Ok EEsh time for me to take a whack at this .

I personally know Lewis or Lewi as you call him . Lewi is not the scammer type . I have worked with him on a couple diffrent projects . He has had oprotunity to scam me . Yet he has not .

I honestly do not agree with what he did . But I have wanted to do this many many many times my own self . Having a customer waste hours of your time only to say ohhh n/m . Is quite frustrating . Anyone in sales will agee that is utter shit to have that happen to you.

Now honestly what I see has happened is that Lewis went a little to far due to frustration . How many of you in here have ever been frustrated ? I know I have . Have I told a customer about thereself ? Yes ohh yeah I told him where to go and shouted it from the highest mountain top .

So maybe Lewis went about it the wrong way maybe he shoulda just told him where to go ***** himself . But desperation and rage is a bad combonation .

Honestly Lewis usually does contribute to the board . He is not to bad of a guy . I am sure this is a one time incident . There was another member here who had a similar circumstance . With this person everything was squashed with a sorry ! Now everyone is talking BAN ???? That is too much . As like i said I know Lewis and I am sure this is only a one time thing out of desperation and rage .
 
You can do whatever you want as long as it doesnt show really sensitive info.
 
You still attempted to blackmail him.

get your accounts banned if you dont pay $400 is blackmail.

And why are you doing 6 hours of work without payment? Thats kind of insane..... I stop answering after about 10 minutes if its clear they just want something free.

I even told him we will deal after the server is all done. He said ok and didn't said anything for the charges. Btw he got the server from someone here on bhw and didn't do much in setting up because it is not his vps company. Emailling software was done by them too not him.

I am waiting for the mods to give me clearance to post the 5 - 7 screenshot of our conversation. Then we will see how genuine is his claims about me asking the list for free.
 
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Lewi you a ball bagging muther. I will paya visit to that address tommorow to proove you dont live there ok?

So you turn to blackmailing because your grandad died mmmm yeah ok pal!

I think you best leave this place you have dugg to far, i will hopefully see you tommorow if your there. Probably get to have a chat with your parents.
 
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You can do whatever you want as long as it doesnt show really sensitive info.

Dont worry luckily i didnt send him any pics :P looolz
and yeah please do post ALLL that chat logs un changed.... will make a nice read to prove that now your lying about me making up you changing your mind and are blatantly refusing.... it looks like the tables have turned and ive got alot more to loose so why should i lie now? You stand to loose nothing or minimal things.

OH! and you were the one who offered my money.... i didnt ask.
(would like to see your screenshot of that one and chat log)

we are all waiting.....


edit: screeshot 4 shows him trying to blackmail me (pot calling the kettle black???)
 
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Lewi, to be honest regardless of how he approached you and what heppened with him wasting your time. YOU threatened with blackmail, you are the con here pal. Customer's are always right bro.

So if i walked into a phone shop and said mmmmm im interested in that phone, they get it out for me and we talk for 2 hrs and i say nah dont want it and go. The salesmen wouldnt throw an eppy and say right that's im going to destroy your business unless you pay me $400 . crikey it would be on the news mate!
 
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Dont worry luckily i didnt send him any pics :P looolz
and yeah please do post ALLL that chat logs un changed.... will make a nice read to prove that now your lying about me making up you changing your mind and are blatantly refusing.... it looks like the tables have turned and ive got alot more to loose so why should i lie now? You stand to loose nothing or minimal things.

OH! and you were the one who offered my money.... i didnt ask.
(would like to see your screenshot of that one and chat log)

we are all waiting.....

You boil my blood. :flame: You are just sitting around assuming everything is dandy and you did no wrong. Someone must instill discipline within your soul maybe? :confused: - You are waiting around for him to post "proof" so you can switch things around and save your stretched hiny. Why don't you offer something better instead of a made up chat-log presenting your perspective of the situation, he's offering real chat logs showing where you insulted, threatened, and blackmailed him. Everyone must be punished equally.
 
You know what affGuy08 i have already admitted and will say it again that i was out of order.... but kicking up all this shit when i havent done anything but say these things is a bit out of order.... I would understand if you woke up and found all your accounts banned that you would do this.... But to do it after i have caused no damage to your online businesses is a bit out of order.

Anyhow you wont accept an apolgy for my words but i do apologise and it takes alot to apologise for something that i feel soo strongly about no apologising for. I hope you will accept and do the same in return for your actions.
 
Thread closed.

I think all the proof/info has been shared now.
 
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