Let's Reverse Engineer "Frank Kern"

The reluctant hero...that is the roll kerns plays. he says it himself. This is a very calculated persona which really makes people say, "hey I want to be just like that". The kerns that you see is a character invented to sell shit. That character connects on many levels for just about everyone of us wanting a live just like his.
 
The reluctant hero...that is the roll kerns plays. he says it himself. This is a very calculated persona which really makes people say, "hey I want to be just like that". The kerns that you see is a character invented to sell shit. That character connects on many levels for just about everyone of us wanting a live just like his.

It is very admirable.
 
I never heard of any of them. I don't follow celebrities, especially not internet celebrities.

The way I see it, success is 70% luck and 30% hard work. The purpose of the hard work is so you are prepared for success if luck comes your way.

Most of these guru's make their money selling their books on how they became successful.
 
There's a lot to be said about David DeAngelo that most of you guys probably don't know.

David DeAngelo is a businessman who created a dating ebook by "dumbing down" the techniques of some of the great pickup artists out there. He renamed a lot of it "Cock and funny" just because it is easier to understand and it works.

But he is nothing more than a businessman. He spent a lot of time at social dynamics seminars run by ross jefferies(a guy that pretty much started it all) but then fell out with him and made his own product.

It is all a money making farce really.


Yes David D was a student (follower) of Ross Jeffries. We can also see David DeAngelo in the seminar LA 99 and in another audio course I think Masters or something.

We can see that Dave was very approval seeking of Ross.

However, David D finaly became a leader, self-aggrandized and made his own company. He does not sells what Ross sells. He seems to read a lot of psychology and self-help too.

While Ross sells "seduction", David D sells "attraction".

Ross seems to hate Dave because Dave dominated the market, which was an industry made initiated by Ross.
 
Yes David D was a student (follower) of Ross Jeffries. We can also see David DeAngelo in the seminar LA 99 and in another audio course I think Masters or something.

We can see that Dave was very approval seeking of Ross.

However, David D finaly became a leader, self-aggrandized and made his own company. He does not sells what Ross sells. He seems to read a lot of psychology and self-help too.

While Ross sells "seduction", David D sells "attraction".

Ross seems to hate Dave because Dave dominated the market, which was an industry made initiated by Ross.

I met David D. personally in 2009 in one of the seminars. He never tells it
but he is a good NLP Trainer trained by one of the top NLP guys
Wyatt Woodsmall. Wyatt Woodsmall along with Tony Robbins was one
of the first NLP Trainer trained by Richard Bandler himself. Almost all
training David D. does is NLP.

Franky is all over NLP as well. All his videos are so fucking good NLPwise.

Take a clue. NLP is the SHIT!
 
I met David D. personally in 2009 in one of the seminars. He never tells it
but he is a good NLP Trainer trained by one of the top NLP guys
Wyatt Woodsmall. Wyatt Woodsmall along with Tony Robbins was one
of the first NLP Trainer trained by Richard Bandler himself. Almost all
training David D. does is NLP.

Franky is all over NLP as well. All his videos are so fucking good NLPwise.

Take a clue. NLP is the SHIT!

Interesting, whats good resources for learning NLP? I've never really put much interest in it as I've always considered it BS but recently have heard it mentioned more and more.
 
Interesting, whats good resources for learning NLP? I've never really put much interest in it as I've always considered it BS but recently have heard it mentioned more and more.

nlpconnections.com is a good place to chat about it.
 
Guys like Frank Kern and Eben Pagan (aka David DeAngelo) are hugely successful because they create a story that is bought into by a large segment of the population who share a common worldview.

In other words, as marketers, they are eons ahead of anyone here on this forum in terms of skill level.

They are true marketers and not "how many AMR blasts should I do to my money site" kiddies.

Just sayin'.
 
Guys like Frank Kern and Eben Pagan (aka David DeAngelo) are hugely successful because they create a story that is bought into by a large segment of the population who share a common worldview.

In other words, as marketers, they are eons ahead of anyone here on this forum in terms of skill level.

They are true marketers and not "how many AMR blasts should I do to my money site" kiddies.

Just sayin'.

DFrancon speaks the truth... In the long run, if we're aiming for serious, million dollar success, the best way to go is to create your brand and turn yourself into your own killer product. The nitty gritty of using marketing tools only gets you so far (and the beauty is that most of that stuff can eventually be outsourced). If you're chasing a millionaire lifestyle, then sooner or later you've got to sell yourself.
 
Kern is King. If you havent heard of him take the time to watch his stuff and study it. He gives away 90% of the course in the launch videos, just like everybody else - see Dan Kennedy training. Mass Control is a how to make yourself into a Frank Kern level marketer.

Kern must be doing something right. Tony Robbins picked him to redo his internet marketing a couple years ago.
 
Yeah, and if you google barney you get almost 20 million results.



Succesful? Never even heard of that guy. I have heard about Barney though
That's because he's a purple dinosaur and kids love him :D
 
Ah.... well, anything with the word "guru" in it makes me feel like I am some DP retard...

Might as well make a thread about how amazing shoemoney is


I got a good laugh at that and I couldn't have said it better myself.
 
heh.. all these gurus make me sick

And what you know

I even watched almost all of their releases...

A WORD OF ADVICE: DON'T EVEN TRY TO LISTEN TO ALL THE CRAP THEY ARE SPELLING...

You watch 5 hours at a product and the only usefull thing that you should know could be probably spelled in like 30 minutes from that 5 hour...

SH*T...
 
Famous? or INFAMOUS? ;)

In G, type the full name in quotes +filetype:pdf

The first result has a very interesting URL -- ftc(dot)gov

WOW, those guys sure did some work on a person named xxxxx xxxx
Probably they already did some "reverse" engineering on the person then!!

Is he the same person we're talking about -- may be some different person? ;)

It was more than 7+ years ago though... very intelligent even then!


BEWARE!
 
Famous? or INFAMOUS? ;)

In G, type the full name in quotes +filetype:pdf

The first result has a very interesting URL -- ftc(dot)gov

WOW, those guys sure did some work on a person named xxxxx xxxx
Probably they already did some "reverse" engineering on the person then!!

Is he the same person we're talking about -- may be some different person? ;)

It was more than 7+ years ago though... very intelligent even then!


BEWARE!

LOL his real name is irwin not frank.
 
What I always don't get is this. I listen to their horse shit and it's like for hours
then I ask myself wtf that I really learn and I can't come up with anything substantial.
The problem I have is I can't seem to replication speewing that much horseshit. It really is a very specialized skill. One that I hope to acquire very soon so i can be a big time guru!
 
If you can't learn anything from a course like Kern's Mass Control, then you must be retarded.
:)
 
If you can't learn anything from a course like Kern's Mass Control, then you must be retarded.
:)

I learned of stuff from actually. But more from watching him sell the shit out of everything then from his actual courses. He just talk about psychology alot. You can get that from a $12 book. People are just to lazy to read so they spend $1997 on a course.
 
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