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Let's not get out of control....

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Black Hat Seo, Apr 16, 2008.

  1. Black Hat Seo

    Black Hat Seo BANNED BANNED

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    I'm not going soft or anything, but the cracks, and the sharing are getting a little crazy.

    Here's all I'm saying, most stuff is shit, and I'm happy to see it stolen, but there are a few softwares/tools/programs/video products/ and yes even some ebooks that are actually worth the money.

    I steal everything first, there's too much bullshit to pay most of these clowns in advance for anything, it's not the money, it's the principal that some douche bag is making cash talking up a product that completely blows.

    That being said, if it's actually as advertised and makes you money, fucking buy it, people deserve to get paid for their work.

    I'm totally cool with taking it for free and making some money or getting the results you want, but when you do, throw the creator the lousy $150 bucks for their hard work.

    In fact, it's getting pretty sick, $29 softwares that are actually really good are ripped here all the time. $29!!, come on, cough up the cash a few weeks later and buy a copy if it helped you out.

    I know I'm kidding myself, theres probably next to no one here that would even cough up $20 if the product they got for free made them $1000.

    This may be blackhatworld, but you don't deserve to make money if a hard working product creator doesn't deserve a few bucks for providing something of value. The point is to take it for free and give yourself a head start, or make sure it's worth the cost.
     
  2. blanko

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    I've spent thousands of dollars on information over the last couple years.

    But come on man, this is a blackhat/hacker type forum so no one here is going to want to pay anything. Thats why they come here. Everyone one's looking for a lot for nothing...
     
  3. mwari23

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    great post, I understand where you're coming from. I know i'd be pissed if I actually put out a high quality ebook or software, yet unable to make money from it due to piracy. like you said, im not knocking free, cause nobody turns down free. but if you earn from the cracked versions and love the software then you should purchase the real deal. Then you get all then benefits of updates and what not, and not worry about being able to find the new version. excellent post
     
  4. blanko

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    I agree, If you find something you like and it actually work you should turn around and pay for it.
     
  5. Black Hat Seo

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    That's all I'm saying. I'm all for getting an edge, getting a peek, or getting a product you can't afford, but if it makes you money, buy a legit copy later.

    These people have kids like you do, rent like you do, and bills like you do, they work their ass off and spend a lot of money creating something that actually works, and the thanks they get is being robbed blind, that's where it gets messed up.
     
  6. blanko

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    These developers need to be member of forums like this, that way they can control it a little better.
     
  7. Nick Flame

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    I used to look through the ebooks and soft posted here in the beginning, but it s been several good months since i last read an ebook posted here.

    To be completely honest, none of my income ventures are directly coming from the ebooks/softs shared out there. I consider all them junk, and if someone would ask me to recall a good ebook that has improved my online income i would not be able to call one out.

    The same things go with the softs. Never had any great success with any public soft shared on diferent warez sites.

    The truth is that is so much junk and shit in this make money online business that it takes you to much sorting through it, and surely it is not worth paying for it
     
  8. jr1984

    jr1984 Newbie

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    I 100% agree with you.

    I see people here complaining about not getting products for free!
    Do you think people like that are taking advantage of all this free
    software and information?

    Do you really think they are making the money they should be if they actually used the products and information that are so freely shared here?

    Free is good, but don't complain when you can't get something for free.

    Chances are that person is making no money online and doesn't deserve the product anyway. They download it, read it, but don't take action, thats why they don't want to pay for it. Be a go-getter and make something happen.

    The bottom line is if your complaining about paying for a product (or anything to do with your business) then success might not be for you.

    It takes hard work to make money, online, at a job, or at school, and that hard work will pay off. Thats why you see these "gurus" making insane money.

    Don't expcet success to come when you don't want to work or pay for it.
     
  9. samloron

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    I think reading on forums and trusting your pure instincts is enough. E-books are good for us promoting to new webmasters but there is a time for advance webmasters to learn that e-books are really worthless. To the author I agree that tools worth the money shouldn't be shared. Though I have to be grateful for all the money I've saved and put into resources like domains etc. But no knowledge is worthless unless you already know it.

    samloron
     
  10. Maxell

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    I agree, and trust me I do like this, I read ebooks and if thats good enough and pays back, I purchase that ebook and a good customer :)..
     
  11. ProtoProtoss

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    I've always felt the same way. I just feel it's a waste of time stating it because due to everything being openly available on the net... people will spend 3 months (more than the $$$ worth in TIME alone) looking for a product, and settling for a trojaned version, cracked but not functioning properly, etc. etc. version then bitch about it later. Afterwards they will spend even more time looking for a better working version, which is kinda funny to me. Nevertheless, I've always been and always will be a try-before-you-buy type person.
     
  12. Smitty

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    Surprisingly I do follow this philo with a twist, well it could be the same...

    I'm a member of TheVault so the amount of free shit that is available to me is kinda sick. But basically I'll download it and if it's something I"ve never seen before and makes me money I'll buy the product.

    For software that I actually do use I'll usually buy it too just so I have the updates n what not. But usually I'll use the cracked version first to make sure it's actually worth it.

    But I can't say I haven't gotten a ton of free stuff in here and TheVault.
     
  13. revax

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    I've been buying these so-called shit ebooks back in my days when I was on dp. I'm just frustrated about having been ripped off many times and thus don't feel bad about taking some ebooks for free.

    The stuff I've purchased at BHW (software mainly, rather than ebooks) has been way better and has actually worked.

    The problem is that very few of the ebooks being shared actually deliver on their promises.
     
  14. Spdbmp

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    I agree 100%! Great post. I have dl many things here, (alot of 'em crap); but I must say that I'm very impressed with the B*A*N*S software. I have put up a few sites, and YES I do plan to purchase a legit version when they create the income (just starting to trickle now). If the ebook or software does what it claims; I must give respect to the creator and pay them for their work.

    I'm grateful to have found this community where there is such a sharing mentality, both from dl's and experience.
     
  15. punn3301

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    Great post.

    The infatuation with downloading the newest thing is just another distraction for noobs and experienced marketers alike. Let's be real, if you've been online for more than a year or so, it ain't hard to spot a scammy ebook...you can see them almost instantly.

    Sometimes some people seem to blame the person SELLING the ebook, when they need to look in the mirror and blame themselves for buying that crap. No one is forcing you to buy that garbage.

    Also since when did "blackhat" mean "thief"? That's what I want to know.

    If some of these people would spend their time WORKING instead of searching for, downloading, and reading ebook after ebook, maybe they might reach some of the online goals they claim to have set for themselves....just a thought.