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Let Me Blow Your Mind- The Mandela Effect

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Skyebug77, Dec 4, 2016.

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Without Looking It Up, Which Is Correct?

  1. Beren-Stein Bears

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  2. Beren-Stain Bears

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  1. Skyebug77

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    NOTE: Please answer the survey above before reading. I am conducting a social experiment on this topic.

    Ok, some may call this being a bit "out there", while others may see the same strange things I see. I want to share a very odd occurrence going on in our collective memories. Lets talk about the Mandela Effect. Is it a huge marketing scheme? Is it a social experiment? Are There Time Travelers? Lets explore this topic a bit. It might actually blow your mind.

    What is the Mandela effect?

    The Mandela effect is a shared collective memory that people have, that actually did not happen in "reality". There are lots of documented reports of different memories that people have collectively shared that apparently never occurred according to history books, newspaper archives, and so on. One often mentioned example is a favorite child book.

    Is it Beren-Stein Bears Or Is it Beren-Stain Bears?

    If you google to see which name is correct, you'll probably find that your first thought on the proper name is wrong. I myself share this supposedly collective false memory and was shocked to see what the actual name is. Stop What You Are Doing And Google it yourself and see.

    Besides this one example, some other examples of memories blamed on the "Mandela Effect" are:


    Nelson Mandela’s death in prison, long before his actual death (in this timestream) on 5 December 2013.

    Lindbergh baby – Never found? In this timestream, the 20-month old baby was found 12 May 1932.

    New Zealand’s location, relative to Australia.

    Red/blue – Pepsi logo changes, Chevron logo changes, and other color swaps… are they markers, cues, or signs to watch for?

    September 22nd or 23rd? – Some people recall events shifting from one of these dates to another. (The reaction to this article — on- and off-site — has been disproportionate to its apparent minor importance.)

    Sky – Changes in the sun, moon, stars, planets and their moons, constellation configurations and placement, and the color of the sky in general.

    Tiananmen Square – Memories of a young man being run over by a tank. (Might be Mandela Effect issue or simple media manipulation.)

    51 or 52 United States — (Not Puerto Rico, which is a territory, or DC, which is a district.)

    Billy Graham’s funeral on TV. As of January 2016, he’s still alive.

    Challenger shuttle explosion date? 1984, 1985, or 1986? Winter or another time of year? (Per Wikipedia, it was 28 Jan 1986.) Also, alternate memories about the Columbia.

    Colors – Chartreuse and more – Many people recall chartreuse as a pink or reddish color. It’s actually yellow-green.

    Curious George – Tail or no tail? (He’s never had a tail.) This is part of my article about dual memories.

    Ghost Hunters TV show — Some remember the earliest show name as TAPS, not Ghost Hunters. (Yes, we know the real-life team is called TAPS, and some of their gear has always said that.)

    Henry VIII portrait with a turkey leg in his hand — Many people clearly recall seeing it in history books, but there’s no record of it, now.

    Jif or Jiffy Peanut Butter – Jif peanut butter was never called “Jiffy,” in this timestream. (Not confused with Skippy brand, either.)

    Mother Teresa – A saint before 2016? Several recall her canonization in the 1990s. They also recall her name spelled “Theresa.”

    (List Source: http://mandelaeffect.com/major-memories/)

    If you begin digging into this topic, you will find lists upon lists of allegedly false memories.


    So what causes these supposedly false memories?

    The Mandela Effect was first described online in 2010, by a blogger named Fiona Broome. Broome described an experience at a convention called Dragon Con, where she discovered that others had a false memory similar to hers, which was that Nelson Mandela had died during his imprisonment in the 1980s (Source: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-mandela-effect). There are several theories surrounding the cause or root of the Mandela effect, including parallel universes intersecting, marketing effects, time travel, social experiments etc.

    Debunkers claim "The Mandela Effect is closely related to cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance can be mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds beliefs, ideas, or values and is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. Please note the use of “can be” as there is many purists that don’t accept the broader definition and scope of cognitive dissonance applying to memory versus reality. It is also related to misconceptions in general, although, again is differentiated due to the obscure nature and odd feelings resulting from learning the reality. The solutions, explanations and reasons for the misconceptions are also cryptic and often misrepresented or unknown altogether. "(Source: http://www.debunkingmandelaeffects.com/mandela-effect-introduction/)

    For me, and countless others that have experienced the Mandela effect the debunkers statement "explanations and reasons for the "Mandela Effect" are also cryptic and often misrepresented or unknown altogether" really don't provide a credible explanation of why such large groups of people share these collective memories, and admit that they don't have a solid theory to back up their position on the matter.

    Can we prove the Mandela Effect is real?

    Most supporters of the theory claim the collective memories are proof in itself of the Mandela effect, but of course debunkers criticize these claims as cognitive dissonance. However, on August 5th, 2016, Redditor diamondashtry submitted a post titled “Holy shit – found Berenstein evidence while packing,” claiming to have discovered a Berentstein Bears VHS tape with the names “Berenstein” and “Berenstain” appearing on the official label (shown below). Within 72 hours, the post gained more than 340 votes (93% upvoted) and 180 comments on the /r/MandelaEffect subreddit, posting the following picture:

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    In the comments section, Redditor jumpsiedaisy replied that “basic analyses” on photos showed no traces of digital editing. That day, the news site Heavy published an article titled “Berenstein Bears: Did Reddit Prove the Mandela Effect?” (source: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-mandela-effect).

    Here is a link to the Heavy Article: http://heavy.com/news/2016/08/beren...ffect-vhs-photo-berenstain-evidence-pictures/

    After spending quite sometime looking into this theory I found many memories I had which are apparently false, but shared by huge groups of people around the world. The Beren-Stein Bears one stood out the most to me because a year ago, before ever hearing about the "Mandela Effect" I was searching youtube for Beren-Stein Bear episodes for my daughter. I was shocked that I couldnt find it and instead found Beren-Stain bears. I even said something to my wife at the time about it. I clearly remember growing up reading and saying "STEIN" and Not "STAIN". I suppose a number of members in this community will have this same memory as I and others do, so for me the Mandela Effect is very real. I don't know whats caused this effect but it is quite odd and interesting to think about.

    Perhaps a time traveller(s) is changing history to enrich themself, maybe there are parallel universes where collective memories leak to another, perhaps there is a huge social experiment going on with the memories of large segments of the population, or perhaps we are all just crazy.
     
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    I've heard about this before, the ones that I experienced were "Sex in the city" to "Sex and the city", "Looney Toons" to "Looney Tunes" and the snow white mirror thing.. Quite interesting..
     
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    Its pretty much bs, its jsut that people's memories aren't as good as what others claim. If something isn't important you won't remember the full details.
     
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    This might be true, but how do you explain why such large segments of populations share these false memories collectively?
     
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    Alot of it is things that are easily confused Stein and Stain. Theresa and Teresa, "Living Saint" termed by the media thinking someone had already been deemed a saint(impossible to the rules of sainthood).

    52 states is just people being confusing a few territories for states, there's more than 52 states + territories and some people even said more than 52 by mistake. People not from the US are also not going to probably now about the number of states. Ask any American how many EU member states is there, and you will get many saying a different number than the real amount.
     
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    Some of the explanations might be right, and of course each example of the "Mandela Effect" may have its own unique explanation but lets focus on one instance, the berenstein bears vs berenstain bears. I remember as a kid, very clearly being corrected on properly pronouncing this name. And almost everyone borne before the 1990's also recall it being berenstein. Then this picture seems to confirm the memory as being legit.

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    This seems to defy logical explanation.
     
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    Or it was a printing error, that happens sometimes in the industry

    Someone didn't go over these as well before printing and putting up.
    http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/4daf4ca935258.jpg
    http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/4daf4f82e7f22.jpg
     
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    My mind is not blown.
     
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    One thing that I found particularly surprising is that Australia is no longer an isolated island, there exists Papua New Guinea very close to it. But I still remember my early school days' geography classes - Australia indeed was quite far away from any proper lands. Another mindblowing occurrence is the position of Sri Lanka - it has come closer to India. When I searched the internet I found a lot of other people experienced the same things as me.
     
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    How is this even a thing?

    The last I knew, this was called a bad memory, or misinformation.

    I could probably guess the name of a song I heard last week, and someone else could guess something completely different .. It's not some sort of 'effect', it's just that I can't remember the name of the song :confused::confused:
     
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    Humans are easily confused and manipulated.

    Humans generally have bad memory.
     
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    I've always know her as saint theresa, as far as i know she was a saint before i was born ('95)
     
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    Collectively millions of people use the word "your" instead of "you are". Mandela effect or just dumb cunts?
     
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    Cuba is another one. I remember it being more south east of Florida. Apparently not. Now its almost in the gulf of mexico. This is another one people share too.


    I remember her being canonized by Pope John Paul in the 90's
     
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    How can you remember something that has never been allowed? Not only does a person has to be dead before they can be canonized it takes a few a few years after death
     
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    Is/Was C-3PO all gold?
     
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    Cool experiment. I personally feel like it has a lot to do with how people enunciate their words as well as people's accents sounding foreign to others which can twist the sound of a word which leads to misspelling and improper pronouncements.
     
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    She died in the mid 90's. Far as I know there is only 5 requirements to announce sainthood. Time after death is not a factor as far as I know. Maybe you can enlighten me on the exact rules and processes.

    But, I think thats the point of the mandela effect. I am not the only person that shares this memory. Millions of people do. How do tens of millions of people remember things which according to historical records say happen a different way.

    I know, right. I grew up watching star wars. He never had freaking silver legs.
     
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    Nice post! Im into this and even stranger things, so if you ever want to chat for a possibly unlimited time on weird topics, feel free to PM me . its not bs the rabbit hole goes sooo deep

    Being able to think so outside the box can be very beneficial in many areas of life including IM. Those that say it is all BS are unfortunate as they have a disadvantage imo
     
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