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LAIO, Sick, UD & Success Rates

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by daz1uk, Apr 11, 2013.

  1. daz1uk

    daz1uk Registered Member

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    I see posts about the software mentioned in my post title for tiered link building and people often talk about success rates.

    Maybe im wrong but surely these tools that pretty much do the same thing have no real affect on your success, after all they all do the same job right?


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    ha. no.
     
  3. RankGeek

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    Unless you're using an absolute affiliate site on which you don't have longterm ideas, why even go for tiered link building using a bot??
    There are several good providers right here on BHW who do the job manually.
    But yes - answering your question, most of these tools work pretty much the same way if tweaked right. All the best :)
     
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    all do same job but finally it comes to target sites (i mean using over scrapped sites)
     
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  5. daz1uk

    daz1uk Registered Member

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    @LakeForest Childish but duh, yeah. ;)

    @RankGeek, hi thanks for the response, basically because I wish to learn about SEO for myself including the affects of using different tools.

    @MrBoss, Hi, Thanks for the reply, yeah it's my belief rightly or wrongly that it depends on how the tools are used rather than the tools themselves, I might try to setup a test for this if I can find time.
     
  6. TokenTim420

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    Each program has its advantages and disadvantages. It all boils down to what you know the best and what works the best for you. For the record daz1uk, I agree with you, a large part of the success using these programs depends on how they are used and the quality of links that you let the software acquire you. I am far from a professional but I think it's pretty obvious that the way you use any linkbuilding tool will directly reflect on the success it brings you.


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  8. daz1uk

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    TokenTim420, thanks for the input, yeah I spent a short time mulling over which tool I should use after seeing posts saying this tool is better than that tool etc. Then I came to the conclusion it doesn't really matter which tool you use. For me the threads arguing the benefits of one software over another are distracting to new people like me that are trying to learn, so if any newcomers read this thread, my advice.....pick a tool, stick with it and learn how to use it properly and don't waste your time mulling over which tool is best.
     
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    bk071, thanks for the useless input to the discussion, got anything useful to add?

    Clearly different tools have different added extras/benefits, but if your looking for a web 2 poster / account creator................unless you'd like to share why a certain tool performs better at these tasks above all others?
     
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    Yes I do have something for you.

    YOU. ARE. STUPID for confusing the success rate of different tools with success of people.
    Anyone who has even little experience in IM will laugh out loud reading your extremely useful post. In fact it is so useful that I'm going to quote it again here

    Fucking noobs. :D
     
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  11. daz1uk

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    bk071, clearly you haven't read the post properly or as your input suggests you may be slightly ignorant as you still haven't provided anything useful and resort to insulting somebody who is trying to learn rather than either assisting them and others who may read this or keeping out of it.

    I have not suggested that the success rate of certain tools can be attributed to peoples success with IM, in fact I am stating quite the opposite.

    I am a newb, you think I should be ashamed or embarrassed of trying to learn a new skill? You my friend articulate yourself as well as my 2yr old son.
     
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    Daz, I think you may be a little bit off course here , unless my reading comprehension just blows :). I think what BK is saying is the way you phrased your original " thought" is misleading for what your ACTUALLY trying to say. I see you went from talking about "success rates" to these programs not affecting ones "success". First off, success rates and success in general are like PPG( Points Per Game) and actual wins and losses in basketball. Your points per game could be low as hell and you still win the game or you could have a really high points per game and still lose the game.

    Haha, sorry for the metaphor, but success rates are simply the % of which the sites your software tries to post a link too actually come through. The general success of a person in Internet Marketing is dependent on sooo many factors , certainly not just your link building software. Although, one could have the prettiest , best looking, most informative web site in the world and if it cannot be found then its just that, a pretty, good looking group of words that no one ever knows about. Sorta like if a tree falls in the woods does it still make a noise?

    But more directly answering what I think you mean and what I gather is the "success rate" of people that attempt Internet Marketing is not directly affected by the software they use to build links is true and sort of untrue at the same time. Although link building itself solely could not determine if your going to be successful or not in Internet Marketing ; if you learned to master one of the many link building software programs one would have a much better shot at being successful , of course, that is, IF ranking websites was what the IMer was looking to accomplish to rake in the cash. Now, to the question of does it matter WHICH software you use, and I guess that is up for debate because there are so many different opinons on whats the best link building software out there, and in my opinion, what the boils down to is what works for you. Which one are you going to put the time into and learn the small things that make you successful.

    Maybe I am the one that's way off pace here, I don't know, all I do know is I hope I cleared the air here a little bit, at least for someone!

    Tim
     
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    I don't think it's a matter of the tools themselves having a success rate. I think it's moreso an issue of how quality your list is. I could be wrong, but I think if you use all the SEO tools in existence to post the same things to the same places, your success rate with all of the tools will be equally bad, because your links will be removed.
     
  14. TokenTim420

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    Confused by most of what you've said here, but one thing I def. agree with is it's not a matter of the tools themselves having a certain success rate, but more of the success rates' of each of the tools will depend highly on the experience and know-how of the person using each in-particular software.

    Meaning - None of them will get you jack shit if you don't know what your doing! Just like just because you have the most badass car in America doesn't mean your beating Dale Earnhardt Jr. in a race. Or just because you have a brand new top-of-the-line high tech redneck compound bow doesn't mean you can out shoot good-ole Robin Hood with his flimsy stick bow :).

    Each of them could potentially produce good results if you have the know-how. Also this is presuming we are all talking about programs such as UD, SEnuke, GSA SER, Licorne, etc etc.