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Keyword Stuffing Ideas....

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by turbopugsleylx, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. turbopugsleylx

    turbopugsleylx Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Ok guys...

    so here is the scoop...I have a list of 1500 keywords that relate to my niche but only get one or two searches a day (and not enough to warrant writing an article for each of them...

    So I had an idea...maybe paying a outsourced article writer to write on BIG article and using all of the keywords in it...but there a catch the HUGE article has to be less than 5% KW density (ie only 5 words out of 100 can be off the keyword list)...

    And perhaps make the writing rather small and a light color (like Yellow) and also every 400 words put something of this sort so as to get them to click to my presell page:

    CLICK HERE TO FIX YOUR BLAH BLAH BLAH

    SO as to when a person searches one of these small long tail keywords google takes them to my page and their automatic reaction is to click on thru to my landing page...and it wouldnt get any slaps or crap from google (I dont think it would)

    Building links to this page could give me the potential to tap into 3000 searches a day....any thoughts or tweaks on this?

    Also any other creative ideas to tap into this small long tail keywords without a ton of effort?
     
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  2. yowies

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    1500 keywords ...but there a catch the HUGE article has to be less than 5% KW density (ie only 5 words out of 100 can be off the keyword list

    So..you are going to get a 30,000 word article to be able to use 1500 keywords at 5% KW density..
    For a start..that aint an article..thats a book.;)
    And then get backlinks using keywords in anchor text...
    Thats around 1500 backlinks...
    Good luck..with the book..
     
  3. turbopugsleylx

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    Not saying anchors texts...just the keywords in the text....realize alot of these keywords have next to no competition in google...so just the PR of my site+ the keyword being in the text should be a ticket to number 1 or 2...
     
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    lol.. if only it were so easy...
     
  5. turbopugsleylx

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    You don't think that if a keyword has 15 all in title results a high pr site with the keyword would rank in spot one or two? (assuming theres no wiki or some huge authority site like that)
     
  6. aftershock2020

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    You are chasing a red harring with this thing, bud.

    Break those keywords up into smaller, microniche target sections and pages within your site. Then, build articles, hubs, lenses and backlinks to each one of those keyword specific pages, that should contain a target product or service office and content for that keyword.

    Build it out and make yourself an authority site out of your main domain if you have that many keywords in your niche. Sounds to me like you are working a major general niche and then trying to rank for everything ever mentioned about it as a keyword.

    You CAN successfully do that but, NEVER by posting an article stuffing more than 3 keywords, much less one stuffing 1500. The directories and other web 2.0 services would flag your article for review and due to human mods checking those specifically, you'd not only lose the article but your account, which would be linked back to your site or another link page that would downline to the main somewhere.

    This is virtual suicide and not even remotely worth the effort due to the damage you'd do to your internet property.
     
  7. turbopugsleylx

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    Sorry I didnt clarify I would not be submitting the huge article to any article site....just my domain name under a subdomain...I was just thinking if I get the density right google would think its just a big article.....and any customer would most likely ignore the text and just focus on the big blue letters to click thru to the presell page....
     
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    Dude, 1500 keywords in one article is the same as not targetting anything at all. The idea of keywords is to let the SEs know how to index your page. By using that many keywords, rather than helping the SE, you're making it harder. Create a site with 100 pages, each targetting 15-25 keywords max, then have all the pages linking together and especially linking to your presell page. Make sure all of the pages are relevant to each other and you'll have a much better and more professional domain.

    Follow the advice Aftershock gave you, and the whole site will get much better results. With that many keywords, if they do all target the same niche, you can create enough content to really create a great site. Don't target too many keywords on any single page, and especially don't try to stuff more than just a few of those keywords on any page. This will be much more powerful than trying to use them all on a single page.

    Aftershock just gave you a pretty good blueprint. Follow his advice and see what happens. I bet you'll be really happy with the results.

    edit - also you need to give your customers a little more credit. There is so much garbage on the internet, they aren't going to just ignore the text and then click where you want. They'll see that it looks like garbage. They won't just be selective and focus on your big blue letters, they'll just ignore all of it and use their back button to leave your site. If you want to make a successful site, you need to make it at least seem like you are making a contribution, not like someone trying to be tricky. You may think your trying to trick the search engines, but your customers will think somehow your trying to trick them.
     
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    So could I potentially do this to one of my competitors? Why or why not?
     
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    Well only if you're hosting your competitors site on your own domain. I imagine that isn't the case. LOL

    The OP post is really about onsite SEO for pages on his own domain.

    Trying to damage a competitor, mostly involves creating backlinks for them on bad sites, and link bombing them with bad terms on all kinds of sites. There is really no way to do onsite SEO that will hurt your competitor unless you were to hack into their website and do it on their site.

    The account that they're talking about getting banned is the one posting the article from. Even if you could get the article to stay live, just one isn't going to create too much problem for your competitor. Mostly you would just be losing any value of a link from that one site. You could potentially cause problems that way, but whether you are trying to help your own site, or damage someone elses, most of the time it will just be wasted effort.


    Really though, instead of trying to damage your competitor seo, you should concentrate more effort into your own SEO and just try to beat them at the game.
     
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    why not just get one article setup for some serious spinning and use the KW phrase in the title and then at the bottom inside your resource box. Then go get the free month trial at unique article wizard and submit your 1500 articles so you'll get like a million backlinks back to your website.

    After you do that make sure to cancle your subscription to UAW