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[Keyword Research] My Dear Noobs,you are doing it totally wrong!

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Jeevs, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. Jeevs

    Jeevs Supreme Member

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    I get a lot of PMs by new members and even old ones asking for suggestion on keywords they have selected. They say that "Google says the competition is low" by looking at the competition bar (pic below) in the Google Keyword Tool.

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    Well guys..I've got some bad news for you. This is NOT the SEO competition, it is actually competition for advertisers, the amount of bidding going on for that particular keyword. So if you are making an Adsense site, you want the competition to be "High" in the Google Keyword Tool.

    More Competition=More Bidders=Better Payout

    There are other ways of analyzing competition for a keyword which are explained HERE and HERE by IamNRE. So I won't repeat that, but don't judge the competition of a keyword by the bar shown above.

    It's called the Adwords keyword tool - not the SEO keyword tool.

    Good Luck
    Jeevs
     
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    youssfy Senior Member

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    You haven't selected [Exact] Match :D

    BTW,yes,this is a mistake which many people make.
     
  3. Jeevs

    Jeevs Supreme Member

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    I just pulled out an image from Google :D That's why I provided a link for proper keyword research after the post.
    Yes this is a very common mistake...even I realized it after I spent a fair amount of time in IM.
     
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    MadMaddy Junior Member

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    haha, When i was a noob, i also used to think like that

    Thanks for making a good post educating noobs :)
     
  5. Jeevs

    Jeevs Supreme Member

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    Same here! Thanks to BHW!
     
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    sathyavcs Regular Member

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    Thanks! Definitely will be helpful ! +rep added !
     
  7. Seolic

    Seolic Newbie

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    Yes, a big search issue.

    Anothe tip: I have a theory to analize the "quality" of keywords, if they have an high cost in CPC, it means that this keyword have commerce value and it can bring you people interested in buy some product or service.

    This is a simply idea and maybe doesn't work for some niches, but, there's always a reason why people are paying for a keyword between others, and it helps to find the good ones
     
  8. Jeevs

    Jeevs Supreme Member

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    Yes, Like I said..if you have an Adsense site..look for a keyword with decent CPC competition.
     
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    trustedfire9 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Damn I'm selling keywords from 2 years and thought it's seo competition
    hope my clients don't read this ....
     
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    santhu Power Member

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    Thanks For This Jeevs...........
    Even I Too Thinking Like This..............
     
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    Lifeologist Newbie

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    I'm glad I've read this.
     
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    Forgive me for my opposition but I disagree with you guys. Yes that "statement" shows competition for advertisers. But it is also a remark for publishers too.

    If there are so many advertisers in that area and if they are competing wildly, simply there will be harsh competition for taking place in SERPs. For example, we can see that most of EMDs overlapping those "high" competition keywords have already been bought. Or we may notice many authority sites trying to be on the first page regarding those terms.

    After my experience of 3 years with hundreds of domains/sites, I may say that those competition statements (high, medium, low) are generally valid for publishers too.
     
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    Bestbuyfoam Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Now this made my day...:) Thanks needed a laugh...
     
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    Kimi BANNED BANNED

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    Oh my dear God, I hope this is not true
     
  15. Jeevs

    Jeevs Supreme Member

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    lol ;) Post of the day!
     
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    myownhero Power Member Premium Member

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    I've had dozens of clients come to me with this misconception. It's got to be more widely misunderstood than the 'broad' vs 'exact' check box.

    I mean, it's called the Adwords keyword tool - not the SEO keyword tool.
     
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  17. DevMask

    DevMask Newbie

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    I also used to think in that way only earlier then I attended an Adwords course and things became more clear.

    I still often forget to click on 'Exact' while doing quick searches.

    Stupid mistakes. :)
     
  18. Jeevs

    Jeevs Supreme Member

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    This pretty much concludes the story! Thanks, adding it to the post now :)
     
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    Holy crap! Thanks a lot for this. I had read a good amount on finding the right keywords by messing around w/ global and local filters but I kept avoiding great key phrases for THIS reason! Now I'm not going to fear the 'high' label.
     
  20. Jeevs

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