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Keeping Amazon Prime accounts from being banned

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by slevin711, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. slevin711

    slevin711 Newbie

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    So yes, this thread relates to the amazon to eBay arbitrage/dropshipping method. I have been doing this for about a year, and have learned quite a bit about the business through trial and error, but one of the things that I have been unable to figure out is the rhyme or reason to when amazon bans your account from prime. There are several different theories out there: Order amount, customer service, redundant or incorrect information, but I am yet to figure out how some of the larger sellers are able to place so many orders from amazon on a daily basis and not having to constantly create new accounts.

    For example, here are some of the seller accounts that I am describing (since my links are blocked, google these stores)
    Google "ebay xa-electronics"
    Google "ebay thehoneyroastedpeanut"


    Both of these sellers are the largest scale of this type of business. And before you say they are ordering from wholesalers, let me stop you, because they are not. Not only do they have "amazon" related feedback in their feedback, I have personally ordered several items from them to confirm this.

    So, in the last month, xa-electronics has over 17,000 feedback. A good rule of thumb is you get, at best, feedback for one of out of 3 items. So with that math, that is over 50,000 items in a month and well over 1,000 items a day. Now forgetting the questions of how do they place so many orders a day and how are they making profit on some of their items, how is amazon not constantly banning their accounts?

    Anyone have any strategies or ideas that I may have missed? I wouldn't mind if you send me a PM on this matter either :)

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Kawgy

    Kawgy Junior Member

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    I think amazon only allows you to ship to a set number of addresses using your prime acccount.
     
  3. BlackRussianV

    BlackRussianV Newbie

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    Did you ever figure it out?
     
  4. dav3416

    dav3416 Newbie

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    Maybe ust don't use prime. Use no rush shipping or standard shipping.

    Someone mentioned that honey roasted peanut account before and they mentioned a lot of popular items they would sell on a consistent basis they would ship themselves.

    Only thing I can think of is maybe continuously signing up for multiple multiple multiple free 30 day prime accounts. Beauty is that they can buy Amazon gift cards anywhere to pay for the items and no personal info or bank cards are linked. Also all addresses are different so they can never link that.

    You think if they have proxies or vpns or vps's or changing ips someway they could potentially sign up for as many accounts as they want. Gets banned? Who cares, you didn't pay for the prime ;-)

    Shoot they may just sign up for multiple accounts a week and burn them every month. That's what I'd do at least.
     
  5. Defon

    Defon Regular Member

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    Normally doe less than 30 sales per prime a ccount. Then make another one... it works with no problems. Get the free trail of course... for prime.
     
  6. cdele7

    cdele7 Newbie

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    It is possible they are just listing items over 35 dollars a lot items have free shipping that's not through prime, and not against the terms
     
  7. thesony

    thesony Registered Member

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    Only found out recently that amazon will ban your for reselling. I would also like to know what these guys do.
     
  8. llcjns

    llcjns Registered Member

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    You can just make a new account every month or w/e. Free prime trial too.

    What I'm interested in is how some of these people are selling items with such high markups.
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    I think they are either marketing their listings well, or buying the items with "fake" accounts themselves to raise the items on the page, and then getting sales that way. These markups are ridiculous.

    I'm certain thehoneyroastedpeanut is either a group of people, or one person with a very good bot.
     

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    STAUNCH Junior Member

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    With HALF MILLION feedbacks - he can do whatever he wants, even 5x / 10x of the original price. People will still buy his items because of the reputation and the "best match".

    Earn 0,5M feedbacks by yourself and you can do that as well.
     
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  10. llcjns

    llcjns Registered Member

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    I didn't realize people cared so much about rep on Ebay. As a buyer, I feel totally fine with anyone over 1,000 and comfortable with over 100. Thanks for the tip.
     
  11. 702grayhat

    702grayhat Newbie

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    There is no way that anybody has purchased those items at those prices. Look on that same page and click "Revisions" and you'll probably see that he is using a repricing software that will reprice items extremely high when stock gets low on Amazon or something else trips it. Smart sellers will reprice items very high instead of delisting them because it helps with eBay SEO.

    What I am currently struggling with is the same thing as the OP stated in the beginning topic. I continually get accounts banned and its really a pain to start a fresh account because a lot of the time there will be problems with the credit card verification, etc. I would be perfectly happy just drop shipping with the free shipping vs abusing the Amazon Prime, but its also tough to find software out there that will do this and NOT using Prime.

    Anybody on here interested in sharing info between each other and digging deeper into this eBay / Amazon arb thing? I've currently got over 1000 items listed and sold over 250 items in the last month, but like I said it is becoming a real pain and I received my first negative feedback ever this week over a $5 item, grrrr.
     
  12. Lxuke

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    What kind of credit cards are you all using for making trial prime accounts?
     
  13. password01

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    There was a service on here where you could buy VCCs with only a couple of dollars on them so you could create a prime account. I think they might have costed like 5 bucks or something.

    I can't remember but head on over to the sales forum or as in Lounge.
     
  14. volupia

    volupia Newbie

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    I have signed up to 10 accounts same address and same card had over 1000 orders split between the 10 and had no emailed warnings. So i will continue until other wise.
     
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  15. PapyrusMan

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    So you are looking for a way to automate the creation of a whole bunch of prime accounts a month?