KAS (Polish IRS) attacks bitcoin users

Lukmat · Apr 6, 2018

KAS is polish IRS - tax department connected with assault armed squad to guard polish goverment's money.

Few days ago KAS sent a letter to polish crypto stock exchange companies, to reveal full data about users:
-transactions crypto-crypto
-transactions crypto-fiat
-ATM transactions
-full user profiles, according to KYC policy some stocks have it very detailed with documents

There can be arround 40 000 regular traders and 300 000 not regulars crypto buyers (thx to last hype).
The crypto value for last year, only for one polish stock is 1 bln $ went via Bitbay in transations.

...and what is the best, KAS with Finance Ministry made an interpretation about crypto taxation.

Users needs to pay:
-income tax after success trade, it's 18% or 32%, or 19% for small companies
-TRANSACTION TAX EVEN WHEN YOU BUY AND LOOSE, 1% for crypto-crypto transactions

Then imagine this transaction tax when somebody was trading daily and was making thousands of transactions/day and /month. Even he has deposited 1000 usd and withdrawed 900 usd, he can have to pay few millions of tax! It's FUCKING SICK!

What now?
-stocks are talking with KAS, negotiations with lawyers
-letter to prime minister signed by 20 000 people

after fail:
-individuals will go to administration courts after any KAS letters
-hundreds or thousands people will run abroad

100% sure:
-crypto is killed in Poland
-stock exchanges will run abroad but for sure, nobody will trade in company who sent database to KAS

eternalwarrior · Apr 6, 2018

At lease the Polish government put tax on Crypto trading instead of banning it unlike Indian government.

Lukmat · Apr 6, 2018

eternalwarrior said:
At lease the Polish government put tax on Crypto trading instead of banning it unlike Indian government.

This is not tax on crypto. It's killing crypto by using tax regulations because killing it in straight way in EU is illegal.

lakerr · Apr 6, 2018

vinku said:
This is not tax on crypto. It's killing crypto by using tax regulations because killing it in straight way in EU is illegal.

Poland need money for "500+"

Deleted member 877043 · Apr 6, 2018

The Poles do not fuck around. Never have, never will.

Beautiful country, inhabited by people with big harts and a strong will for independence.

Eventually you will understand this move and appreciate it.

aidenhera · Apr 6, 2018

vinku said:
KAS is polish IRS - tax department connected with assault armed squad to guard polish goverment's money.

Few days ago KAS sent a letter to polish crypto stock exchange companies, to reveal full data about users:
-transactions crypto-crypto
-transactions crypto-fiat
-ATM transactions
-full user profiles, according to KYC policy some stocks have it very detailed with documents

There can be arround 40 000 regular traders and 300 000 not regulars crypto buyers (thx to last hype).
The crypto value for last year, only for one polish stock is 1 bln $ went via Bitbay in transations.

...and what is the best, KAS with Finance Ministry made an interpretation about crypto taxation.

Users needs to pay:
-income tax after success trade, it's 18% or 32%, or 19% for small companies
-TRANSACTION TAX EVEN WHEN YOU BUY AND LOOSE, 1% for crypto-crypto transactions

Then imagine this transaction tax when somebody was trading daily and was making thousands of transactions/day and /month. Even he has deposited 1000 usd and withdrawed 900 usd, he can have to pay few millions of tax! It's FUCKING SICK!

What now?
-stocks are talking with KAS, negotiations with lawyers
-letter to prime minister signed by 20 000 people

after fail:
-individuals will go to administration courts after any KAS letters
-hundreds or thousands people will run abroad

100% sure:
-crypto is killed in Poland
-stock exchanges will run abroad but for sure, nobody will trade in company who sent database to KAS

im from here and i didnt even know that O.O

Lukmat · Apr 6, 2018

NotAllenTuring said:
The Poles do not fuck around. Never have, never will.

Beautiful country, inhabited by people with big harts and a strong will for independence.

Eventually you will understand this move and appreciate it.

Seriously?
FUCK MY COUNTRY

aidenhera said:
im from here and i didnt even know that O.O

they got last year full uniforms, helmets, buletproof armors, guns and many, many more even to work at night
however, it's not common, of course standard KAS worker is just paper guy

aidenhera · Apr 6, 2018

lakerr said:
Poland need money for "500+"

they already increased driving licence cost because 500+ was mathematical failure and there was no enough money to fund it

lakerr · Apr 6, 2018

Stay off polish exchanges, big fees, low volume, small amount of coins, why would I trade there? And these taxes now...

Lukmat · Apr 6, 2018

aidenhera said:
they already increased driving licence cost because 500+ was mathematical failure and there was no enough money to fund it

crypto is not about 500+ but about industry destruction

lakerr said:
Stay off polish exchanges, big fees, low volume, small amount of coins, why would I trade there? And these tax now...

yes sure, but I was here with something arround $15k, not many transactions but now they knows

hah

Deleted member 877043 · Apr 6, 2018

vinku said:
Seriously?
FUCK MY COUNTRY

No. Be Proud.

Like I said. Give it some time, and you will appreciate what they did. This isn’t about tax evasion, but goes way deeper and has a historical component to it.

But we know that political talk isn’t allowed, so I suggest you keep your eyes and ears open and you will learn what’s going on.

aidenhera · Apr 6, 2018

NotAllenTuring said:
No. Be Proud.

Like I said. Give it some time, and you will appreciate what they did. This isn’t about tax evasion, but goes way deeper and has a historical component to it.

But we know that political talk isn’t allowed, so I suggest you keep your eyes and ears open and you will learn what’s going on.

i think if a country bans crypto then thats because crypto users dont tax their transfers and this is potential place where banks/country could obtain money

eternalwarrior · Apr 6, 2018

vinku said:
This is not tax on crypto. It's killing crypto by using tax regulations because killing it in straight way in EU is illegal.

Ahh I see

invictum777 · Apr 6, 2018

this was predictable, everybody knew it would happen, only crypto people thought the governments would allow a money laundering space

Deleted member 877043 · Apr 6, 2018

aidenhera said:
i think if a country bans crypto then thats because crypto users dont tax their transfers and this is potential place where banks/country could obtain money

True. You’re correct.

But this is in large part about The Poles choosing to not become a subaltern object again.

And with this remark I leave it up to the passing of time to tell us if this is/was a reaction against former Soviet-European influence or post-war European influence.

I will leave it at this. Still got 3 infraction points for political posts to my name, and I would like to keep it at that.

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