Justanotherpanel scammed me

BassTrackerBoats said:

Why in the world would anyone buy a no refill service?

I do not buy SMM services but I do a lot of BST approval actions with them and never understood how that could be a viable offer and how anyone with half a brain would buy that.

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Well because money talks. Usually such services are cheaper.

But never mind the "no refill" services. The thing I saw on jap not too long ago had my jaw on the floor.

So we have a no refill service right. Orders are made. The orders are marked completed a while later, but nothing got delivered whatsoever. I know because I'm checking the 10 pages constantly. Each of the pages has the exact same start count that it had when the orders was made.

So jap support is contacted. They tell you the service is "no refill" so you're out of luck.

Dude. I'm not asking for a refill. You delivered nothing at all! You can't do that!

So yeah, that's like stealing for real. Should be illegal


...because a service that got delivered and dropped, it will almost never drop back down exactly to the start count you had. Especially not between 10/20+ different links. Highly unlikely. One in a million. And if you're checking the pages multiple times per day, you know if there was any movement.

Scorpion Ghost said:

Yeah jap kinda sucks in some respects.

Like if you order, and everything goes right, then youre fine.

But if theres a problem and you need to contact support, good luck. Theyll likely just jerk you around.

Like if you order a "no refill" service, and nothing at all gets delivered, but the order gets marked as completed. So you contact them to complain, and they tell you the order was completed but dropped. And since its no refill, nothing can be done.

Or you order a service with a refill, and it drops a little, and you wait forever for a refill and have to contact them multiple times. And then you get some shit like "we will try". What do you mean you will try? This is not a try thing. You refill or you refund the drop. WTF?

But what theyre hoping for is to jerk you around until the 30 days pass and your refill guarantee period expires, and then they can tell you that no refill can be done because its past the refill period.

They do shit like this. Most SMM panels do shit like that. Theres only 2 panels i know that wont treat you like an asshole. One i cant say its name, because self-promotion is not allowed on the forum. And the other is Qqtube

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Do you guarantee they are not JAP providers?

BassTrackerBoats said:

Why in the world would anyone buy a no refill service?

I do not buy SMM services but I do a lot of BST approval actions with them and never understood how that could be a viable offer and how anyone with half a brain would buy that.

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Probably for the same reason JAP provides IG prank followers... Brand reputation damage.
I dont believe they buy no refill services for themselves

FreddieP said:

Do you guarantee they are not JAP providers?

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Yes, I do.

For some of their services I guarantee it 110%, and for others of their services I guarantee it 99%.

After searching here and there i ve found some alternatives with cheaper rates than JAP. Some of them look like they are JAPs suppliers. @JustAnotherPanel Eventually people will know you are an untrustworthy scammer

I've been using smmstone for a lot of time , and they always deliver and answer, give them a try

I have found 4 panels so far with approximately 50% cheaper prices than JAP. One of them has like 6k services and prices like 70% cheaper than the shitpanel. I am gonna throw 30$ on each and see what happens. The reason i am not sharing the links, is because it's going to harm BHW sellers which is unfair.

Moral of the story: Just because something works and does the job for years, doesn't mean you must not have a backup plan.

FreddieP said:

I have found 4 panels so far with approximately 50% cheaper prices than JAP. One of them has like 6k services and prices like 70% cheaper than the shitpanel. I am gonna throw 30$ on each and see what happens. The reason i am not sharing the links, is because it's going to harm BHW sellers which is unfair.

Moral of the story: Just because something works and does the job for years, doesn't mean you must not have a backup plan.

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i already told JAP was shit. those 70% cheaper panels have disgusting support .. best part is when drop happens , it happens in all the panels whether its JAP or cheaper panels from here

FreddieP said:

As the title says i got scammed by JAP. Looking for a new provider that is NOT a JAP reseller and has decent prices. I would like to hear a few suggestions as I dont want to pay JAP indirectly.

People working with JAP need to be careful. I can provide screenshots and proof if it's allowed by an admin.

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Those scumbags scammer me today as well, made an comment order yesterday and got nothing while it says it starts frmo 0-1 hour...

BassTrackerBoats said:

Why in the world would anyone buy a no refill service?

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Zwielicht once asked me the same question.

> most of these services are used by people who promote game hacks, gambling, jailbreak etc. Their videos has a very short lifespan so they prefer the cheap no refill service because in case if youtube removes their video they will not loose enough money.

sscaz said:

Those scumbags scammer me today as well, made an comment order yesterday and got nothing while it says it starts frmo 0-1 hour...

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Yeah but that's not a scam. That's just bad business.

A scam is if they start the orders, deliver nothing, mark them completed, refuse to refill or refund.

A scam is if they never start the orders and never reply to your messages.

A scam is if they take your money like that.

Promising a 0-1 hour start time and starting the order 7 hours later is not a scam, it's just bad business.

But of course it must be said that sometimes social networks have updates and probably the service providers have updates, and services can't always start instantly or as promised.

I'm just putting it out there. On my panel I have a 0-24 start count on all services, and so I don't have to deal with start time complaints or any of that. But other panels with Instant start services and such quick starts, and just other panels, yeah they don't always respect the start times.

And it's more than that. You order, the order starts within 0-1 hour, and then 48 hours later nothing has been delivered. And now if you needed it quickly, or if your customer needed it quickly, you have a problem. And then you contact them and ask to cancel those orders, and they say they'll speed it up or they'll see what I can do. And you say you want the orders cancelled! And they jerk you around. That's bordering on a scam now. Then you buy the same service from another server or panel, because I need the orders completed, and the new server/panel completes it. And then the first server/panel also marks the order as completed, because they don't count what they delivered, they just go by your start and end counts. So that's a scam now!

And that's another problem with most of these fucking services. They use your start and end count to consider an order delivered. Which means any organic or other growth you get, they'll count it as their delivery. That's also a bit of a scam. They steal likes/followers from you when they do that. You have 500 likes, you order 500 likes. In the meantime you get 100 organic or some other method likes. They mark the order completed at 1,000 likes. Wait a minute, it should be 1,100 likes!

Yeah, I mostly got out of the reselling game a long time ago. I hate all of that shit. Bad business.

I have SMM panel, And I resell some of the services and provide few of them, and you have to know something, as people here are saying JAP is a reseller too, a real provider can't provide 1000 services and .... The combination of all of these will make sense, that all the well known SMM provider researched about their service to find a better provider and better profit margin, So even you change your SMM panel, Or even you find a cheaper service, at the end of the day you're using indirectly services of less than 5 people or even 1 person who all the SMM panels resell his service.

I had bad experience with JAP too,and i don't work with them anymore, but it's not JAP problem..

Let's explain the scenario for you..

All of SMM provider, like JAP just collect money and send the order to main provider, and maybe when you buy something on JAP that real provider has a problem to serve the service (Technical problem or even personal problems.) and you think it's the JAP mistake, and you say It takes too long to start services on JAP, they cancel the services all the time, ,,,,and you will change your SMM panel, For example instead of JAP you will move to PAJ!
and again buy the same service from the PAJ and the real provider problem is solved on that day (His girlfriend got back!) and you'll get the service instantly and perfect and you think the PAJ is the better than JAP!
when you send a ticket on SMM panel,the website owner doesn't know what to answer, and he should send the ticket on his provider website, and maybe to the main provider, there are 10 different resellers, so it takes time to get a real and clean answer, or you get some pre-written messages.
In conclusion, If you want to use SMM panels, You should know all of these, You won't buy a perfect service from a perfect provider with a good guarantee, because the seller doesn't know what's happening. The seller just can make you waiting with his messages or if you stick to much he will cancel your service and refund and will work with somebody else.

Scorpion Ghost said:

Yeah jap kinda sucks in some respects.

Like if you order, and everything goes right, then youre fine.

But if theres a problem and you need to contact support, good luck. Theyll likely just jerk you around.

Like if you order a "no refill" service, and nothing at all gets delivered, but the order gets marked as completed. So you contact them to complain, and they tell you the order was completed but dropped. And since its no refill, nothing can be done.

Or you order a service with a refill, and it drops a little, and you wait forever for a refill and have to contact them multiple times. And then you get some shit like "we will try". What do you mean you will try? This is not a try thing. You refill or you refund the drop. WTF?

But what theyre hoping for is to jerk you around until the 30 days pass and your refill guarantee period expires, and then they can tell you that no refill can be done because its past the refill period.

They do shit like this. Most SMM panels do shit like that. Theres only 2 panels i know that wont treat you like an asshole. One i cant say its name, because self-promotion is not allowed on the forum. And the other is Qqtube

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What alternatives would you recommend anyway?
I'm still quite confident that JAP is one of the top ones around despite the bad support staff.
I do agree to an extent that the ticket replies are stalling at times but the long term panel users would agree that it has been much easier using them if you know exactly which service to be ordering from by looking at the estimated minutes section.
I remember starting out with top4smm but it was really expensive for me till I experimented around and found JAP.

hyocca said:

What alternatives would you recommend anyway?
I'm still quite confident that JAP is one of the top ones around despite the bad support staff.
I do agree to an extent that the ticket replies are stalling at times but the long term panel users would agree that it has been much easier using them if you know exactly which service to be ordering from by looking at the estimated minutes section.
I remember starting out with top4smm but it was really expensive for me till I experimented around and found JAP.

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There are alternatives. I can't recommend any, but in my opinion it's good to have a couple of panels that you check whenever you need something.

Jap is all right for certain things, sure.

The problem with the expensive panels is that most of them resell services from other cheaper places. But not always. Sometimes the services are more expensive, because they're just better (more reliable, more stable, unique etc).

JAP scammed me with tiktok live viewers, order: 371192273
Service ID 7754 - not work, i spent 123.84 usd and didnt get an order, they just answer with auto replies that order marked as completed!
They dont review at screens fact and etc!

Well, I would not single out jap among the rest, it's just a regular resell panel. All is well until some problems arise on the part of the supplier. Then the multi-week "we are working on it" or "don't worry" begins. I don't understand why people are still using this service, because the price is not the cheapest either, and the supports are just an imitation of a flurry of activity

Besides order not being delivered those SMM services could harm our FB or IG account somehow? like getting banned etc.?

guys this thread is 3 months old .

Do not trust this company

What happened?

BassTrackerBoats said:

Why in the world would anyone buy a no refill service?

I do not buy SMM services but I do a lot of BST approval actions with them and never understood how that could be a viable offer and how anyone with half a brain would buy that.

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Two cases brother.
1. It's "on a budget" service, most of them are cheaper than refill ones
2. Some servers does not support refilling, programming wise.