JustanotherPanel is Completly Scam!

Pepemakingmony · Oct 28, 2019

They offer 10 minute retention views, i buy 40$ of views get 14 seconds retention

Ask for a refund, they say yeah we re checking for 7 days and they say sorry sir we cant cancel only refill.

Refill what you offering 10 minutes retention views providing 14 seconds and kept the money

COMPLETLY SCAM

unknownsmmers · Oct 28, 2019

Did you try to clarify with the staff? Sometimes I think there is a miscommunication with panel support. Did you provide screenshots of the service description, your results, and ask for a cancel?

Pepemakingmony · Oct 28, 2019

unknownsmmers said:
Did you try to clarify with the staff? Sometimes I think there is a miscommunication with staff. Did you provide screenshots of the service description, your results, and ask for a cancel?

Yeah opened a ticket telling them i bought that views cause the retention, but they seem to dont understand or dont want to understand and yes provided Youtube analytics

unknownsmmers · Oct 28, 2019

Pepemakingmony said:
Yeah opened a ticket telling them i bought that views cause the retention, but they seem to dont understand or dont want to understand and yes provided Youtube analytics

Can you provide a screenshot here hiding sensitive info, or pm it to me?

I can't guarantee I have a solution but I'm able to try and help

Zole · Oct 28, 2019

They are not scam, I spent more then 100k on that panel in last few years. Instagram is hitting hard with blocks and limitations, there is no working panel at the moment. And be lucky if you even get views, cuz instagram is fcked up, and buying anything from followers, likes, views is harder then ever before. And it was never like this, if Instagram doesn't stop with updates I think this is the end for panels.

Pepemakingmony · Oct 28, 2019

unknownsmmers said:
Can you provide a screenshot here hiding sensitive info, or pm it to me?

I can't guarantee I have a solution but I'm able to try and help

Order: http://prntscr.com/pp9tow

Service Description: http://prntscr.com/pp9u1x

Tickets: http://prntscr.com/pp9uaf,http://prntscr.com/pp9umv,http://prntscr.com/pp9v2o,http://prntscr.com/pp9vb5

Zole · Oct 28, 2019

O you are talking about Youtube? I made orders for youtube, they also worked fine, but they change things there also from time to time, so it can work one day and be down another.

Pepemakingmony · Oct 28, 2019

Zole said:
O you are talking about Youtube? I made orders for youtube, they also worked fine, but they change things there also from time to time, so it can work one day and be down another.

Thats not a reason they can lie and scam people

UNKUT · Oct 28, 2019

Pepemakingmony said:
They offer 10 minute retention views, i buy 40$ of views get 14 seconds retention

Ask for a refund, they say yeah we re checking for 7 days and they say sorry sir we cant cancel only refill.

Refill what you offering 10 minutes retention views providing 14 seconds and kept the money

COMPLETLY SCAM

All panels are having an issue with retention view, i guess they didn't update their services list
I also had this problem wwith the 10min retention service, got less than 14sec lol

KraftyKyle · Oct 28, 2019

Well most people are reselling from JAP so that means they're all scams...

Pepemakingmony · Oct 28, 2019

KraftyKyle said:
Well most people are reselling from JAP so that means they're all scams...

Thats not true, saw cheaper prices tahn JAP

Zole · Oct 28, 2019

Pepemakingmony said:
Thats not true, saw cheaper prices tahn JAP

In all these years never saw anyone cheaper then them, can you share it here or in PM? Is it only cheaper for youtube or other services also?

Pepemakingmony · Oct 28, 2019

Zole said:
In all these years never saw anyone cheaper then them, can you share it here or in PM? Is it only cheaper for youtube or other services also?

Well it was for YT but now its dead too i think all panels are dead rn

Zole · Oct 28, 2019

Pepemakingmony said:
Well it was for YT but now its dead too i think all panels are dead rn

Yea making money from selling followers and stuff is impossible at the moment, nobody can provide anything, even if they provide something it's delayed for 40+ hours or accounts are 100% fake accounts, with no posts or even profile picture lol

unknownsmmers · Oct 28, 2019

Pepemakingmony said:
Service Description: http://prntscr.com/pp9u1x

First thing I saw was "up to 10 mins" which is smart on their part, but obviously very misleading, and a snake oil tactic if you get 10 seconds instead of 10 minutes (it's probably a copy/pasted description from their devs.). What status is your account with them?

Pepemakingmony said:
Tickets: http://prntscr.com/pp9uaf,http://prntscr.com/pp9umv,http://prntscr.com/pp9v2o,http://prntscr.com/pp9vb5

When requesting for help, it's best to leave emotion & anger behind, while being patient.
Here's an example:
- no aggression, it's bad for us all, if they had it their way they wouldn't have a support team and every order would be automatic.

- allow 12-24 hours in between responses to allow them enough time to actually handle the issue. It's not as easy as "on/off=start". Even when major updates / delays happen, usually it takes up to 72 hours for the devs. To get things under control

- i can see on the 26th some girl said: "please clarify the issue"

So what I would do is say again:

"Your description states '10 minutes' and I got '10 seconds' , I wouldn't mind if it was atleast 5-7 minutes retention, or worst comes to worst 2-5 minutes retention. But I didn't even get 1 minute. I got less than 10% of 1 minute. 1% of the estimation. 10 seconds. Here's my screenshot: ××××

I want to stay with your panel, but I atleast need what I paid for. Can you set it to partial at a %?

Please ask management and get back to me, this is a big order. I placed my trust in you."

- stop threatening disputes. It's like running into Walmart yelling "IM STEALING. IM STEALING. EVERYBODY WATCH ME STEAL. THESE SHOES WERE SIZE 10 NOT 11. FALSE ADVERTISING."
(not really, but you get the point lmao)

The big panels like you mentioned have been scammed, so I'm sure most don't want to do the scamming. Just re explain yourself with patience, and drop offers like "cancel, partial, replace," offer a solution, rather than another problem. And request management to step in, every company has a management structure, whether it's the same guy with a new attitude or a new person, it could help. IMO

Pepemakingmony · Oct 28, 2019

unknownsmmers said:
First thing I saw was "up to 10 mins" which is smart on their part, but obviously very misleading, and a snake oil tactic of you get 10 seconds instead of 10 minutes (it's probably a copy/pasted description from their devs.). What status is your account with them?

When requesting for help, it's best to leave emotion & anger behind, while being patient.
Here's an example:
- no aggression, it's bad for us all, if they had it their way they wouldn't have a support team and every order would be automatic.

- allow 12-24 hours in between responses to allow them enough time to actually handle the issue. It's not as easy as "on/off=start". Even when major updates / delays happen, usually it takes up to 72 hours for the devs. To get things under control

- i can see on the 26th some girl said: "please clarify the issue"

So what I would do is say again:

"Your description states '10 minutes' and I got '10 seconds' , I wouldn't mind if it was atleast 5-7 minutes retention, or worst comes to worst 2-5 minutes retention. But I didn't even get 1 minute. I got less than 10% of 1 minute. 1% of the estimation. 10 seconds. Here's my screenshot: ××××

I want to stay with your panel, but I atleast need what I paid for. Can you set it to partial at a %?

Please ask management and get back to me, this is a big order. I placed my trust in you."

- stop threatening disputes. It's like running into Walmart yelling "IM STEALING. IM STEALING. EVERYBODY WATCH ME STEAL. THESE SHOES WERE SIZE 10 NOT 11. FALSE ADVERTISING."
(not really, but you get the point lmao)

The big panels like you mentioned have been scammed, so I'm sure most don't want to do the scamming. Just re explain yourself with patience, and drop offers like "cancel, partial, replace," offer a solution, rather than another problem. And request management to step in, every company has a management structure, whether it's the same guy with a new attitude or a new person, it could help. IMO

Yeah you are like most of them

They sell a fake product and i ask in a good way to get a refund providing a screenshot and explaining the problem
72 hours and they cant solve the issue, keep rotating the support without even know whats the problem

But hey im the bad guys for telling em they are scammers

They are SCAMMERS

unknownsmmers · Oct 28, 2019

Pepemakingmony said:
Yeah you are like most of them

They sell a fake product and i ask in a good way to get a refund providing a screenshot and explaining the problem
72 hours and they cant solve the issue, keep rotating the support without even know whats the problem

But hey im the bad guys for telling em they are scammers

They are SCAMMERS

Me? I'm the one who just typed a solution, how am I like "them" lol,
It looks like you're trying to pin the blame on somebody. Rather than looking for a solution. I don't own a panel, SMMers stands for "social media marketers"

Let me know if I'm confused

Pepemakingmony · Oct 28, 2019

unknownsmmers said:
Me? I'm the one who just typed a solution, how am I like "them" lol,
It looks like you're trying to pin the blame on somebody. Rather than looking for a solution. I don't own a panel, SMMers stands for "social media marketers"

I mean i did all of that i asked in a good manner i provided a screenshot but it was obvious they didnt wanted to refund me, cause what can i do its BTC and they sent the order

soa0611 · Oct 28, 2019

Zole said:
O you are talking about Youtube? I made orders for youtube, they also worked fine, but they change things there also from time to time, so it can work one day and be down another.

did you register on BHW to defend JAP in your first posts?

unknownsmmers · Oct 28, 2019

unknownsmmers said:
- i can see on the 26th some girl said: "please clarify the issue"

So what I would do is say again:

"Your description states '10 minutes' and I got '10 seconds' , I wouldn't mind if it was atleast 5-7 minutes retention, or worst comes to worst 2-5 minutes retention. But I didn't even get 1 minute. I got less than 10% of 1 minute. 1% of the estimation. 10 seconds. Here's my screenshot: ××××

I want to stay with your panel, but I atleast need what I paid for. Can you set it to partial at a %?

Please ask management and get back to me, this is a big order. I placed my trust in you."

Yeah but do this again

Pepemakingmony said:
I mean i did all of that i asked in a good manner i provided a screenshot but it was obvious they didnt wanted to refund me,

They want to, refund you balance.
Because this means they can take an L on 1 order, but you'll buy 10 more and flip the refund back into profit

They've refunded $100s in orders for people i know recently

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