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Just a Small but Important Reminder

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by edgematch, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. edgematch

    edgematch Elite Member

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    This is based on my personal experiences. So please do not try to prove me the opposite or do not judge me.

    I read people whose sites are getting banned, deindexed, sandboxed etc etc. I read threads about the sites slapped by google.

    That is my 2 cents:Except adsense and adwords, stay away from all google products.

    - stay away from gmail
    - never use webmaster tools
    - never use google analytics
    - never use chrome
    - never have a google product on your computer

    Believe me, these precautions will make you safer.
     
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  2. hardcorebiker

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    I use all the above products except Webmaster tools and none of my site ever got banned,deindexed,sandboxed even with hard spamming and yeah seeing good results. So maybe you could avoid only webmasters tool.
     
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  3. Ricky.Montana

    Ricky.Montana Regular Member

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    Why not webmaster tools?
    And please, argue.
    Regards
     
  4. yogi31286

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    any experience with this OP?
    I mean did you try this for your site? was it new site and you did blog commenting blast on it and still it didn't get slap or sandbox? as there can be other reasons behind getting sandboxed or slapped by google! (i am not in favour of google in any manner, just need experienced review)
     
  5. srinu0812

    srinu0812 Supreme Member

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    You are just giving away the data related to your site by adding it into the GWT! Stay away from it if you are going blackhat.
     
  6. grax1

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    do you think that google may not rank sites of certain user when it detects he is using black hat techniques on one of his sites, if yes can you present some evidence
     
  7. BrianKade001

    BrianKade001 BANNED BANNED

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    Don't you think that your case might be an exception because I have not faced a similar issue and I am pretty sure that others would not have faced it.
     
  8. djp3k05

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    I always used GWT and Adsense for my websites. And in 3 years, only one websites was slapped by google (unnatural links). And they were heavy spammed with backlinks.
     
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    Cool, im not used to this, but latest networks i build this way, hope it goes well
     
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    Do you think this is practically possible. Many online viewers may not aware about any other search engine rather than Google. So this may take more time to be achieved...:)
     
  11. edgematch

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    Thanks for all contributions. No need to explain anything. We are all sleeping with a 800 pound gorilla. So try to stay away from her (or him) as much as you can. It is not 100% possible but do best what you can. That was what I meant.

    Some members tell they are all OK with dear google. I respect that. But if you have many sites, if you are doing many tests on them, getting/buying backlinks, simply try to stay away.
     
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  12. BrianKade001

    BrianKade001 BANNED BANNED

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    I respect your point of view and findings, but since I own only a couple of sites, so I don't have much to say about it. But, I will contact more people about it and check if they have experienced something like this.
     
  13. RosuC

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    I have the same setup - I'm using all the above mentioned products except Webmaster Tools (that is from my point useless). None of the actions were against any of our websites - I don't see any reasons tho. Anyway thank you for your thread - can show your adversity regarding the Big Brother - GORILLA :)
     
  14. laowai

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    I believe that G gets most of the data anyway whether or not you add it to webmaster tools, only impact of not using it is that you won't get the data and see possible penalties.
     
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    I totally agree with you OP.

    Big G is collecting and monitoring our private information, which is so unfair, however there is nothing we can do about it except to avoid their products.
     
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    I agree that webmaster tools shouldn't cause a problem. They have the data anyway, it just lets us see some of what they know! Also, if you've got adwords or adsense, they have all your site data already so you may as well use analytics too.

    Having a google plus account associated with your blog is also super-useful when it comes to getting ranked highly, plus YouTube is great for traffic etc.

    My advice: be sensible and set up new accounts for different projects and use private proxies wherever possible.
     
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  17. edgematch

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    Some friends still do not understand the situation here. It is not webmaster tools or analytics causing a problem. It is you that is the source of the problem. You are giving so much data about your sites and you are naturally interlinking them as a result.

    If you have 4-5 sites and obeying all google rules, this thread is not about you. Sorry I did not make it clear enough at first.
     
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    Althought this comes from your personal experience, I don't understand why your experience had led you to this conclusion .

    Have you been using google products like analytics/webmaster tools and saw your website slapped ? Please develop.