krishnacode360
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[Journey] Freedom - $100/day
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darkfury
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Why aim for just $100 per day when you have the potential to earn much more? I mean, you mentioned that you're a master in computer science, so creating bots and such should be relatively straightforward for you. Nevertheless, I wish you the best of luck on your journey.
Damn this are some solid numbers manAre you still making the same amount i mean still in ecom business?
The niche has come under fire a lot over the last two years. Which has resulted in a smaller product range and less services being available to the business (banks, payment gateways etc).
I'd expect 2023 turnover to be 400k or so, which is still great (works out I take roughly 25% gross). But it's definitely time I started looking for new niches
Kukiezi
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It is not a passive income job. It also doesn't feel like a business, but more like another 9-5. $40k is not achievable "easily", even in sap. I don't settle for $3k, but I want to start somewhere.
If I can achieve 100$ in passive income and find something that works, I can scale it to $1000 a day later or more. Also I believe some social media skills I can achieve along the way of how to go viral on certain platforms, how to sell products and convience people to buy them can be a very valuable skill later on. So I can make this work passively ( I hope ).
Anyway, tldr. I feel like becoming someone like a SAP consultatnt is not something that will give me a freedom from the title. Of course $3k is not enought to get this freedom, but it is just a first step.
$100/day is not a final goal where I become free. But its a first step, which can be the hardest one to take. I will aim for quite a bit more, once my brain can understand that its possible to this money without working for someone, and how I can do it
Being a master in something doesn't mean creating bots will be easy. They don't really teach that in university. Actually most of the time (in my country at least) they teach you jack shit. I know how to learn stuff, so I hope this skill will bring me what i takes to make this happen.
The harder part is not bots, but what those bots should do to actually make money. Also to be honest, even if you are a good programmer, its not that easy to just make a business and make tons of money. Freelancing sucks with the time it takes and people killing the market. Creating your own aps etc. is not a piece of cake either. A lot of time and effort, potentially for nothing.
$100/day is not a final goal where I become free. But its a first step. Sometimes the hardest one to take. I already make more than that daily. But I want this passively, working for myself. In my country its also enought to live comfortably, above the average.Following!
Good luck, OP.
With $100/day you can easily live in Thai
fyi. Some updates will be added next week. Probably near the end. Right now I had quite a crazy weekend. Plan for now is to start with manual way, and figure out the way that makes any money. Then if it works, automate it to make much more money.
Kukiezi
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A small update
As expected, nothing is as easy as it sounds. First struggle I stumpled upon is creating gmail accounts on any kind of scale. The thing is... you really need a good proxies for that and I don't want to do PVA and buy sims etc.
4g proxies are EXPENSIVE MAN. And to make it even worse, I would love to get ones based in US, which are even more expensive.
The thing is, platforms like Tiktok (maybe only tiktok) target your audience based on your location.
My GUESS is that if I do the tiktok flow through the web browswer from my PC, it would care only about IP address. On mobile devices it uses sim card for that.
It could limit or shadowban me this way, but this will also be the easiest way for me to start automating things.
What I've done so far?
- Bought the domain
- Built the website from scratch (spent a bit too much time 100%, need to cleanup my browser history lmao)
- Got Anti Dolphin and NordVPN subscription (as I wanted to start with manual testing)
So the NordVPN was the failure. Not working as I expected. PVA from gmail, captcha from tiktok. Everything sucks.
So now 99% gives up right?
Well, f*ck it. Instead I will build my own f*cking proxies and make this work.
If the tiktok path doesn't work well, those proxies should open me a way to either:
1) rent them to others (seems like the demand is there), and I have a huge place, in which I believe I can create a nice farm.
2) play around with every social media, since those proxies will be SO GOOD I will be able to do that.
So what's next?
And now the fun part. I am ordering the hardware now. Will be building software for that to work. Will be struggling. Might cry a bit, but we will be HAVING FUN in the end.
In the meantime, I got some 24h trial for 4g proxy. Will be testing my tiktok plan there for 24 hours. Hopefuly with some success to have some proof on concept.
Good thing the title of this JOURNEY doesn't say what exactly I am doing. Cause at this point, it is a rollercoaster, I have no idea where it is going.
So buckle up folks, and enjoy the ride with me.
As expected, nothing is as easy as it sounds. First struggle I stumpled upon is creating gmail accounts on any kind of scale. The thing is... you really need a good proxies for that and I don't want to do PVA and buy sims etc.
4g proxies are EXPENSIVE MAN. And to make it even worse, I would love to get ones based in US, which are even more expensive.
The thing is, platforms like Tiktok (maybe only tiktok) target your audience based on your location.
My GUESS is that if I do the tiktok flow through the web browswer from my PC, it would care only about IP address. On mobile devices it uses sim card for that.
It could limit or shadowban me this way, but this will also be the easiest way for me to start automating things.
What I've done so far?
- Bought the domain
- Built the website from scratch (spent a bit too much time 100%, need to cleanup my browser history lmao)
- Got Anti Dolphin and NordVPN subscription (as I wanted to start with manual testing)
So the NordVPN was the failure. Not working as I expected. PVA from gmail, captcha from tiktok. Everything sucks.
So now 99% gives up right?
Well, f*ck it. Instead I will build my own f*cking proxies and make this work.
If the tiktok path doesn't work well, those proxies should open me a way to either:
1) rent them to others (seems like the demand is there), and I have a huge place, in which I believe I can create a nice farm.
2) play around with every social media, since those proxies will be SO GOOD I will be able to do that.
So what's next?
And now the fun part. I am ordering the hardware now. Will be building software for that to work. Will be struggling. Might cry a bit, but we will be HAVING FUN in the end.
In the meantime, I got some 24h trial for 4g proxy. Will be testing my tiktok plan there for 24 hours. Hopefuly with some success to have some proof on concept.
Good thing the title of this JOURNEY doesn't say what exactly I am doing. Cause at this point, it is a rollercoaster, I have no idea where it is going.
So buckle up folks, and enjoy the ride with me.
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paisawaisa
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All the best for the journey.
gabasiq
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Good luck friend, as an automation guy and a professional marketing and agency owner here are a few ideas.
https://www.g2g.com/ - Here people sell steam accounts, game items and all sorts of things. A friend of mine automates playing games to acumulate items and sell on this website. Another automation option is for you to create steam accounts from Turkey or Argentina, where games are cheaper, and sell those. If you can manage to add money to the wallet bigger companies may buy them in bulk to get reviews on their games, this is also automatable.
Another idea is to scrape Instagram for contact information of doctors/dentists and sell those to banks in countries where they don't require opt in. Those can cold call them and you can negotiate a commission. Highly scrapable. If you add "?__a=1" to the end of a URL on Instagram and HTTP request it you get the full information without the need to scroll down, in JSON form.
CPA networks. There are CPA affiliate programs that pay you up to $35 per action, like those guys - https://checkitout.ai/payouts - but for this you need to run ads.
https://addmefast.com/ provides engagement on social media, you can automate a few accounts to do those actions and accumulate points and sell engagement for money afterwards.
https://playgroundai.com/ allows you to generate AI images and you have the rights to sell, and then you can just add your "Art" to "https://www.iamfy.co/" which sells AI art from $15 to $35 and you get a cut.
Just a few things to do with automation that I think are noteworthy. Good luck!
Kukiezi
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Thank you a lot! Been testing the UK proxy from spaw.co. Its my first experience with mobile proxies, and so far. The proxy speed and comfort of usage has been great.Your request for free 24h proxy test has been approved
Let us know how it's going!
That being said, it did not help me much with the tiktok.
Update
I created 2 gmail accounts. Unfortunately had to do phone verification. 4g Mobile proxy + dolphin anty without hiding canvas/webgl didn't do the job for skipping PVA. I assume it's impossible without warming up the cookies before creating gmail account.
After creating gmail, I created tiktok for each of those. Had to solve 1 captcha on one, and 2 captchas on second one.
Again I think the system thinks Im sus. But not sure.
Uploaded 5-6 tiktok's on both. Reuploads, but edited a bit + cleaned metadata. All on UK proxy.
Both accounts resulted in 0 views on all the tiktoks.
What I think I need to improve:
- I believe tiktok marks me "sus", because of captcha when creating account? So it kind of shadowbans me a bit...
- Probably need to use actual mobile device with sim card to get normal views. Thats just a guess tho
- Need to warm up cookies before creating gmail? Or at least create gmails with PVA, sus tiktoks, and then warm up the tiktok accounts for a while before posting anything. The warmup could take like a week or more, so should give me time to prepare videos for the tiktok.
Warming up takes weeks for the accounts. And I don't even have a proven method that will bring me money. So I would warm those up just to test something and potentially get banned.
Also for warming up you need automation. Let's be honest. Im not gonna manually warm everything up. Considering investing some money. There are teams of people that just work on scripts to automate social media.
Its obviously gonna be better than what I can quickly create in 1 day or 2. Still not sure tho.
On the other hand
Im excited to start creating my own proxies. I know this will be quite a complicated path. About to finish ordering all the stuff that is needed for those at first.
Also I have a few services in mind, that could take me on a path where CPA etc. would be secondary.
Im not talking just proxy renting (but this is also a potential). More of things I can do with proxies and offer to people.
Also writing the software for this to work will be very cool (I hope).
I will try to do both - cpa and starting proxy/software business.
Stay tuned. Im getting more and more sick of my 9-5. So yes, Im going for the bread money.
Kukiezi
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Update
For the upcoming months I will be focusing on 2 projects. All of those projects are related, meaning I should be able to utilize what I do in project x, also in project y.
1) Project "p" - est. 60 days
This project is a proxy related project. Anything and everything proxy. It is a gateway to enable other projects, as well as potentially make money by itself. I want this to become a backbone of my business.
So far project "p" is only costing me money. It will be like so for a while.
The plan for the next 60 days:
This project has nothing to do with the platform X. I've been thinking about the paths I can take right now. Doing manual work to test what works, and how can I make a horny guy click on something sounds alright, but also not so great.
Projext "x" will focus on creating a tool for others, that they can use to their advantage. It is somewhat social media related. It's something I've been thinking about for a long time, but never took it seriously.
It also exists in the market already, like almost everything. I don't know if it will bring profit or not. NO CLUE! I myself used services like that, and I believe there is a demand.
That being said, Im more excited about the building and technical aspects of this.
The plan for the next 60 days:
In theory, if I achieve everything on the list above. I should be able to start making money on both projects.
If I can achieve that. I should be able to complete this challenge.
I will be updating here when I do any kind of progress, that requires updating. That is why we have percentages on each task.
Ofc. there is also the whole CPA thing with automation. For now I want to focus on those 2 projects mostly. Project "p" is something I have high hopes for. Project "x" is a bit of a gamble, but I believe it can work.
If after 60 days, I decide that Project "x" is not working, I will consider switching to CPA automation and utilize the proxies from project "p".
In the meantime, the only thing I will be doing related to CPA is do some manual experiments and test if I can make a bit of money this way. Not spending hours on that. Just experiment what can make even a dollar.
If something can make a dollar manually I will get the idea for how to make 100 dollars with automation.
But for now... WE FOCUS ON P&X
For the upcoming months I will be focusing on 2 projects. All of those projects are related, meaning I should be able to utilize what I do in project x, also in project y.
1) Project "p" - est. 60 days
This project is a proxy related project. Anything and everything proxy. It is a gateway to enable other projects, as well as potentially make money by itself. I want this to become a backbone of my business.
So far project "p" is only costing me money. It will be like so for a while.
The plan for the next 60 days:
- Keep on investing into hardware. Create 30+ 4g proxies. 3% done
- Write software for proxy management. 5% done
- Ensure scaliblity and high-availiblity 0% done
This project has nothing to do with the platform X. I've been thinking about the paths I can take right now. Doing manual work to test what works, and how can I make a horny guy click on something sounds alright, but also not so great.
Projext "x" will focus on creating a tool for others, that they can use to their advantage. It is somewhat social media related. It's something I've been thinking about for a long time, but never took it seriously.
It also exists in the market already, like almost everything. I don't know if it will bring profit or not. NO CLUE! I myself used services like that, and I believe there is a demand.
That being said, Im more excited about the building and technical aspects of this.
The plan for the next 60 days:
- Test the SM website, see which proxies work, which don't. Experiment. 0% done
- Decide what investments need to be done. How big are they and if its' worth it. 0% done
- Write the software for the tool. It's crucial that it's well tested and stable, as it's going to be sold to others as a subscription. 0% done
- Create a website where the tool is bought, used and marketed. 0% done
In theory, if I achieve everything on the list above. I should be able to start making money on both projects.
If I can achieve that. I should be able to complete this challenge.
I will be updating here when I do any kind of progress, that requires updating. That is why we have percentages on each task.
Ofc. there is also the whole CPA thing with automation. For now I want to focus on those 2 projects mostly. Project "p" is something I have high hopes for. Project "x" is a bit of a gamble, but I believe it can work.
If after 60 days, I decide that Project "x" is not working, I will consider switching to CPA automation and utilize the proxies from project "p".
In the meantime, the only thing I will be doing related to CPA is do some manual experiments and test if I can make a bit of money this way. Not spending hours on that. Just experiment what can make even a dollar.
If something can make a dollar manually I will get the idea for how to make 100 dollars with automation.
But for now... WE FOCUS ON P&X
Kukiezi
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Since the last post 3 days ago, I've been fully comited to the project-p.
Basically my daily routine is:
Been there before, trying to keep it work focused, but also don't forget about relations and physical health.
More about what I've been up to with project-p
Honestly having some sort of physical device-farm. In this case proxies sounds cool at first, but a lot of shit to be handled. It's not something simple to start if you want to have more than 1-5 proxies. And Im saying that without much experience in the subject. It quickly tests you, and with this kind of stuff it is easy to give up. Sometimes it might just be impossible for given location etc.
Basically I have been doing a few things to make this happen.
After writing this post, I am planning to kick-off the project-x. I've got 4g proxies running already, so can start preparing some automation for account creation. I need to do some performance testing, and figure out how much this thing is gonna cost me per month, and how much can I make from it per month potentially.
When Im in this business/software high... I can't stop thinking about ideas, can't stop getting worries about things not working out, can't focus on one thing. This time, Im trying to keep all the ideas in the notebook, but focus only on the P&X. If I fail those, we can talk about next ones.
Takeaway from this post: if you don't find joy in struggling and figuring stuff out that doesn't directly impact the business profit. Just take the path others took. I don't regret what I did here for a second. Im learning from the ground up. Networking, negotiating, spending money (investing lol). It's exciting.
Also, I am sorry, but there won't be much earning posts for a while. I hope to start doing something with those once The projects are running. Hopefully on the deadline I planned.
project-p
Basically my daily routine is:
- wake up
- work 9-5 (since working from home, sometimes do some BHW scrolling, or write some code for project-p during work)
- hit the gym (for mental reset)
- hang out with fiance
- write software for project-p from 9-10pm till 3-4am.
- sleep less than I should
- repeat
Been there before, trying to keep it work focused, but also don't forget about relations and physical health.
More about what I've been up to with project-p
Honestly having some sort of physical device-farm. In this case proxies sounds cool at first, but a lot of shit to be handled. It's not something simple to start if you want to have more than 1-5 proxies. And Im saying that without much experience in the subject. It quickly tests you, and with this kind of stuff it is easy to give up. Sometimes it might just be impossible for given location etc.
Basically I have been doing a few things to make this happen.
- Researching sim suppliers, testing their ip's pool quality, speeds etc. Got some good candidates, and Im quite excited, cause the quality looking very nice.
- Researching internet providers. My current setup should handle quite a bit, but looking for upgrade right now to be able to scale it more and not have to worry about it later. A lot of shit to deal with this. Not gonna lie, it is quite annoying. Getting symmetrical fiber is almost impossible as a normal customer. I pulled some strings and I might be able to get it via another company... a little trickery going on, but this way it should be top notch.
- In case I need it.... accidentally figured out where can I setup some devices if I want to put them eventually in more places. And this is a very good location with everything needed to keep this running smoothly
- Writing software for proxy management. Oh this was quite painful. I think Im a decent programmer. Getting a high paying job is no problem, getting into top companies (done that). Im not saying, Im AMAZING, cause Im not. But at least decent. But god damn, I went the harder way... didn't order the most popular stuff people order. Cause f*ck convenience and mediocrity (nah just kidding, I just like to suffer and make my life difficult, so when I solve things it feels like I accomplished more). There was close to nothing on the internet, when it comes to proxy setup and api of the devices I ordered. So I started reverse engineering the API (haven't really done much of that). While just getting to the point what I need to call, those folks did some dirty stuff to prevent people like me from accessing.
1) Returning badly structured Cookie to cause your "bot" to fail, while in the webui itself that doesn't cause issue. Never heared of that, but it's quite brilliant not gonna lie. Typical fetch, axios fails here. Used a curl client and now its all good
2) Adding some verification value to the request, that is generated via some random, timestamp, manufacturer and hashing. This also took a while to figure out. Probably for someone more experienced in those things, it would be simple. For me... I struggled, but I learned something new. This makes this journey already worth it
After all of that... I got the basic setup fully working. IP rotation on demand works very smoothly. Now there is still quite a bit to be done with management at bigger scale, and overall dashboards, logs etc.
After writing this post, I am planning to kick-off the project-x. I've got 4g proxies running already, so can start preparing some automation for account creation. I need to do some performance testing, and figure out how much this thing is gonna cost me per month, and how much can I make from it per month potentially.
When Im in this business/software high... I can't stop thinking about ideas, can't stop getting worries about things not working out, can't focus on one thing. This time, Im trying to keep all the ideas in the notebook, but focus only on the P&X. If I fail those, we can talk about next ones.
Takeaway from this post: if you don't find joy in struggling and figuring stuff out that doesn't directly impact the business profit. Just take the path others took. I don't regret what I did here for a second. Im learning from the ground up. Networking, negotiating, spending money (investing lol). It's exciting.
Also, I am sorry, but there won't be much earning posts for a while. I hope to start doing something with those once The projects are running. Hopefully on the deadline I planned.
project-p
- Keep on investing into hardware. Create 30+ 4g proxies. 6% done
- Write software for proxy management. 30% done
- Ensure scaliblity and high-availiblity. 5% done
OF_Beekman
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