[Journey] Building an iOS & Android App Empire

Lay said:

Ok here I see what you are saying but once you publish the app you want to stay up-to-date on the competition futures, on the bugs that comes out, on the features implementation that you want to add.
You said in the past that you treat your apps likes a real company and invest and analyze them, doing ASO and test different ASO optimizations, but now the path is different I guess.

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Of course I also make updates, and so on. The situation is: You have to move fast. Speed wins. The worst thing is when you spend 3 months on an app just tot figure out it doesn't make you money.

nakamura said:

Of course I also make updates, and so on. The situation is: You have to move fast. Speed wins. The worst thing is when you spend 3 months on an app just tot figure out it doesn't make you money.

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Yes it's a good concept. You have the idea and develop it in a month or so, then you have to improve it or update it with new data from users like testing new screenshots or impediments new features. Are you able to create, ranking/adv the app and making profit in the first month and validate the idea?
(I've both of your ebooks)

Update:

Last month (April) has been ALMOST similar to March, so I save myself the time to go into detail. The app that went viral came back to normal and 70% of the subscriptions expired. I expected this. The rest 30% forgot to unsubscribe and give me weekly money so far.

Here is what I am doing right now:

Building another iOS app, I gave myself 7 days to finish it. Today is Day 5 and I am almost done. Its crazy how good Claude.ai and also Google Gemini 2.5 is at coding. They are making high quality apps if you prompt them correctly.

One approach I followed for this app is: I create a screenshot of the screen on Canva, then save the image, upload it to the AI and tell it to code a screen that looks exactly like this. Results are amazing.

But, these days I also focus on something else: Getting free traffic.

I am planning the following:

- Create 20 TikTok / IG accounts manually
- Buy 50 TikTok accounts
- Creating around 15-20 YouTube channels for shorts

Buying a software for automation (something similar to what Jarvee used to be). It should do auto-posting, etc.

Then I feed all the accounts with content and want to publish daily.

I know for a matter of fact, that there are developers out there who are building apps and finding niches based on viral marketing. Building apps that you can make content for and are easy to promote though TikTok. I already have 3 of these apps. All I need is: Content, TikTok accounts and a way to automate everything.

Another way would be to set up affiliate links and pay the content creators per thousand views instead per video. This would be harder to set up tho.

There is a lot of things to figure out and I try to put the puzzle together to make it work

nakamura said:

Another way would be to set up affiliate links and pay the content creators per thousand views instead per video. This would be harder to set up tho.

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As far as I know there is a new platform thst is being promoted that pays people per 1000 views not per video

p3n7357 said:

As far as I know there is a new platform thst is being promoted that pays people per 1000 views not per video

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can you DM me or write her whats the platform?

nakamura said:

can you DM me or write her whats the platform?

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If I remember it correctly is whop

Update:

Just about to release my new iOS app. Usually Apple gives you a push for 5-6 days, it helps you to see how your app converts.

Luckily for me, Meta (Facebook) gave me exclusive access to their API platform. I can use their Meta LLAMA models for free (for testing, and they probably get a lot of data). This means I have no API costs. This also means, I am planning to make a give away for my app to get free downloads and also to get into the Top 20 of the iOS charts.

Lets see how this plays out. If it plays out well, I will tell you guys how I did it and also the results.

nakamura said:

Update:

Just about to release my new iOS app. Usually Apple gives you a push for 5-6 days, it helps you to see how your app converts.

Luckily for me, Meta (Facebook) gave me exclusive access to their API platform. I can use their Meta LLAMA models for free (for testing, and they probably get a lot of data). This means I have no API costs. This also means, I am planning to make a give away for my app to get free downloads and also to get into the Top 20 of the iOS charts.

Lets see how this plays out. If it plays out well, I will tell you guys how I did it and also the results.

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Thankyou brother

Can you share, how to create multiple android and apple dev accounts without linking them together.

nakamura

Nice catch, gemini seems to be better than Chat GPT....gonna test it more

Good luck. Keep us posted.

sabhan said:

Can you share, how to create multiple android and apple dev accounts without linking them together.

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Use the anti-detect browser with separate profiles or VDS, or different PCs of course
For creating accounts use the different: data, email, payment method, quality number and good proxy (+device if it needs).
Everything different in creating and everything separate in using.

Joinz said:

Use the anti-detect browser with separate profiles or VDS, or different PCs of course
For creating accounts use the different: data, email, payment method, quality number and good proxy (+device if it needs).
Everything different in creating and everything separate in using.

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Yes agree, anti detect, VPS and different PC is a must.

The most I got stuck is the payment method. Earlier I used to buy from Vietnamese resellers who would sell $25 android account for $50 but the account wouldn't stay alive for 1 month.
I had a friend in USA who was also struggling with the cards, most VCC didn't work for the long term.
So we would start uploading blackhat apps like music downloader, yt downloader and hope to earn handsome in 1 month and then repeat.

It was cat and mouse game and was not long term. So which unlimited payment methods work for long term on google.

Will start creating TikTok accounts, etc. today to get more organic traffic.

I will make apps for GenZ, some of them might be ridiculous for normal people but it is what it is with GenZ. Specifically, I will make apps based on the chance of them going viral.

What I will do today:

App:

> finally finish and upload one of my newer apps (not for GenZ). Just need to get the keyword research done for each country and make screenshots, then hit the send to review button

TikTok:

> will manually create around 7-8 TikTok accounts on my own devices (2x iphones, 1x ipad)
> will use smartproxy 4g mobile proxies + imyfone anywhereto account for proxy and location to create US accounts

> will buy around 30x warmed up US accounts
> will buy an automation tool (probably JarveePro) and a US based windows VPS
> will set up this bot and also use the 4g mobile proxy

From tomorrow I will spend some hours per day making TikTok/IG/shorts videos, nothing special, just important to have a good hook or something triggering. Main goal is to go viral and advertise my app (not as a traditional advertising, but more subliminal)

Why manual accounts on my real device and why bought accounts on a vps?

I will run an A/B test to see which one gets more traffic / shadowbanned. If manual accounts get more traffic, I will buy more smartphones (just 2nd hand cheap phones somewhere here in thailand), if there is no difference between the manually created accounts and the bought tiktok accounts I will just buy even more tiktok accounts.

Why do all of this hassle with tiktok?

Because I have seen the effect of going viral twice now and it can make you a lot of money in a very short time, also it has some side effects such as going into the top charts, increasing your apps keywords ranking, etc.

Why primarily go for tiktok?

Tiktok is by far the best for going viral and organic traffic. YT shorts and reels are not somewhere close to that. I will post on there as well, but I won't make so many accounts on these platforms.

sabhan said:

Yes agree, anti detect, VPS and different PC is a must.

The most I got stuck is the payment method. Earlier I used to buy from Vietnamese resellers who would sell $25 android account for $50 but the account wouldn't stay alive for 1 month.
I had a friend in USA who was also struggling with the cards, most VCC didn't work for the long term.
So we would start uploading blackhat apps like music downloader, yt downloader and hope to earn handsome in 1 month and then repeat.

It was cat and mouse game and was not long term. So which unlimited payment methods work for long term on google.

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But you were able to publish apps and got approves from moderators?
What is the problem with VCC?) For GP you don’t even need to use the card issued in your account location. Just a quality virtual real bank’s card will be good, the plastic one will be awesome.

Joinz said:

But you were able to publish apps and got approves from moderators?
What is the problem with VCC?) For GP you don’t even need to use the card issued in your account location. Just a quality virtual real bank’s card will be good, the plastic one will be awesome.

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Yes, at that time, the review process was not robust 2014-15.
I couldn't find a reliable VCC card provider. Most VCC would expose them to Google and G would happily take $25 and after few days, account would be banned out of nowhere (even if no app was published on it).

It was only when I started to use real computers with different IP address and real credit/debit cards of friends and relatives, the problem never came. But we can't have unlimited friends/family.

That's why I asked OP here, how is he registering and operating the developer accounts?

sabhan said:

Yes, at that time, the review process was not robust 2014-15.
I couldn't find a reliable VCC card provider. Most VCC would expose them to Google and G would happily take $25 and after few days, account would be banned out of nowhere (even if no app was published on it).

It was only when I started to use real computers with different IP address and real credit/debit cards of friends and relatives, the problem never came. But we can't have unlimited friends/family.

That's why I asked OP here, how is he registering and operating the developer accounts?

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You know where I can buy ready made developer accounts? That I can just upload my app

Olabromax said:

You know where I can buy ready made developer accounts? That I can just upload my app

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With this stuff you have to keep in mind it will be difficult to monetize your app through IAPs. Because the address and country settings are very likely set to another country.

This story is crazy! Thank you so much

nakamura said:

With this stuff you have to keep in mind it will be difficult to monetize your app through IAPs. Because the address and country settings are very likely set to another country.

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Well, I want to use only ads first