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Join me in my medium sized niche site journey...

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by fedez, Jun 2, 2014.

  1. fedez

    fedez Registered Member

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    FEDEZ - ATTEMPTING TO MAKE A PROFITABLE SITE IN 4 WEEKS

    Once before I was following bluematter's famous blog here. For those of you who don't know search it, in it he details how he made an authority site that was earning $100/day. Following that blog i attempted to make my very first site. I put ~5 months in it really casually, maybe 10 hours a week (most of it on learning basics, Wordpress, Adsense etc) and at the end of it I had a fairly decent site that was making no money at all. I had spent ~$280 buying scrapebox, hosting and domain and some other subscriptions to help me on this. But it failed, I will tell you why in a moment... but first, In terms of the top 10 competition, the quality of my site and on page seo was absolutely on-par if not better than my "competitors", in-fact during keyword research phase I was going through the sites and thinking, "this should be easy to beat" nothing higher than PR3... not much content on sites etc etc. The keyword seemed good too, high volume traffic, relevant adsense ads, and high CPC... simple right? But I was VERY wrong. I don't know whether us noobs are being intentionally misled here to defuse competition but A LOT of the advice here simply doesn't pan out smoothly in reality. It's like saying, I will by a chicken, it'll give me four eggs, then i'll have 5 chickens and keep doing it till I have a million chickens and sell each one for 2 dollars and become a millionaire. In reality if you try to follow these "5 star" method threads with thousand + posts. You realise the numerous details and obstacles in the way that weren't so obvious before. This is why I am going to start a new journey here ON MY OWN and try to be completely transparent about my tactics and results and include details and obstacles. Another thing to remember is IM is always changing, I don't think much if anything blue-matter personally said on that thread is still relevant, I was wasting a huge amount of time following out-dated techniques. I'm not gonna take any advice seriously unless it is 3 months old at most...



    Problem with my old site (according to what I have researched)



    The main problem in that site and in-fact the main problem any site builder will face is backlinking/link juice. Sure it feels good to think that google will now rank on quality alone (after the recent updates) or that using white hat seo and original high quality content will somehow give a shot to the creative but technically ignorant IMer. But the first lesson that i learned is, it's simply not true. Look for any good niche site out there and check it's back-links and SEO optimisation and you'll realize backlinking is still 80%+ of the effort, and a lot of these sites that are making $100-$1000 a month have no more than 30 articles. They don't use flashy videos, pics or "interactive layout" so that particular advice is BS. CONTENT SHOULD NOT BE YOUR BIGGEST FOCUS... It was mine and that was my downfall. Backlinking/link juice is the hardest part of succeeding in making profitable sites.



    So how did my competitors backlink?



    Backlinking is the KEY, it's everything. This I believe, is the reason my perfectly decent and value-giving site was outranked by a bunch of ad spamming rubbish. When I checked my competitions backlinking strategy using ahrefs, I saw the most retarded pseudo-blog sites listed in the referring urls. These were like one page blogs but the page had like 100 even a thousand articles on different unrelated things. And there were hundreds of these blogsites linking to the main site. NOTE: these weren't weebly blogs or anything, they were independent sites with standalone domains. My only guess is that these guys (the veterans) have made massive blog networks for sending link juice to their different niche sites. they imply switch links and feed that link juice into any new site they're making.

    search for "best penis extender" in the top 10 there are 3 sites by the same guy
    pensiextendertruth.com
    penisextendercentre.com
    penisextenderlabs.com

    There is nothing special about the content, it can be created in 3 days max if you focus, or even outsource it! But check the backlinking of these sites and you will land in these "blog networks" i'm talking about. These three sites by the way are making at least a few hundred a month collectively.
    Whatever they're tactic is the simple fact is, if you are trying to make a niche site to make a small passive income, then you will fail at the step of BACKLINKING unless you can match these guys.



    The difference between you and them:



    As a newb (like me) you're at a pretty frkn big disadvantage. These guys have a couple of things I don't and probably you don't either.
    - excellent long term outsource writers, not easy to find (I've tried)
    - blog networks, forget weebly, you need a network of 10-50 high pr blogs that each have their own back links.
    I will try to get both of these before I even start researching a niche.

    the whole point of doing proper keyword research is to AVOID COMPETITION because simply put, if you DO pick a niche where there is even a moderately experienced IMer chances are he/she will probably have already monopolised and be light years ahead. Why even bother trying to catchup to a bullet train? Remember that once they start to earn cash, they can grow the site on auto-pilot through outsourcing, there is no way you can compete unless you have HUGE capital. I'm personally going to find a niche with ridiculously low competition, I don't care if the returns are minimal, i'd rather rank #1 for 15 absurd and mildly profitable sites than 1 "ever green" niche site. Which brings me to my next point, screw evergreen. Dating, dick enlargement, real estate, I've gone very long tail in my research and all of these niches are really saturated.



    Over-rated advice I got on backlinking...



    DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME on scrapebox. It is literally so hard to find a ******** blogs, and any good ones are already spammed to death, you'll have to be running it for weeks to collect a dozen or so. Outsource your social bookmarking to fiverr, it's a huge waste of time doing it manually. I've never seen any evidence of my guest posting having any effect, so I do not recommend it. Instead make blog networks...

    I'm going to be following the strategy of sites like penisextendertruth.com, because I know IT WORKS, instead of hypothetical opinions and theory which is a lot of times BS. My method will be dissection and replication of working models, that's it. So far what I have learned in summary:

    - Pick lowest competition keyword possible, something untapped by IMers.
    - Build BLOG NETWORKS with lots of link juice from 3rd tier spam linking.
    - Content is not THAT important, move past this step as soon as possible.

    I will be setting the whole thing up, hopefully within 4 weeks MAXIMUM. I really do not want to waste months doing this. My longest time will probably be spent on Keyword research, because I really believe with the level of competition out there and the "intentional?" misinformation on here, there is no point in doing this until you've found a gold mine.

    Will keep you all posted. If any of you would like to advise me along the way, make comments, follow along, whatever, feel free to do so. Only reason i'm doing this is to find out what really works.
     
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  2. simple98203

    simple98203 Junior Member

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    Thanks for this post. Ive learned something here and I think you are right about these so-called gurus. There is a reason why "gurus" keep talking non-stop on how to build quality sites with original content AND bunch of "gurus" are selling backlinks packages.

    I'll follow ur journey.

    PS: Isn't this supposed to be in the "My Journey" section?
     
  3. fedez

    fedez Registered Member

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    Yes it is supposed to be in that section, so far I haven't found a single niche worth pursuing.
     
  4. fedez

    fedez Registered Member

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    I have found a niche that is, in my opinion, worth moving forward with. Before saying anything more, the site I am going to make is an amazon affiliate site, and that will be my monetization method. I have found ad-sense is quiet useless unless you are already very experienced in driving traffic.

    My niche selection criteria can be summarised as follows:

    - Exact phrase search volume > 1000 per month (determined by google keyword planner)

    - The keyword should be saleable, ie have the suffix -sale, - for sale, or prefix buy - , cheap -, best -. These sort of words will bring in traffic that is possible to sell to, this is vital if you ever want to profit.

    - Lack of direct competition: there should be no direct "seo" sites for the same phrase in the first page. For example, if you search buy cars online and see a website called "buycarsonlinenow.com" then you know there are other SEOs hustling, avoid it altogether, you are out matched, out resourced. Better to go for a a niche that has NO competition at all.

    - Content potential: this is less often discussed. The keyword shouldn't be so exact and specific that there are no sub-keywords otherwise you won't be able to diversify your anchors and keyword profile and it'll look spammy to google. Whatever you pick should have enough possible content behind it to make a 5 page website with a few variations of your keyword. So for example, don't make a website for a specific product.

    I am now going to research sub-keywords and research content and plan a site architecture along with a theme selection. Hardest part is over. More to come.