DR Resolved jayden67 vs. onlyzagor

Username: jayden67

Do you meet all of the Dispute Resolution criteria? Yes

Please create your Dispute title using the format in the description below. jayden67 vs. onlyzagor

What is the date the incident took place? Aug 1, 2025

Are you the buyer or seller in this dispute? Buyer

Have you started a chargeback/dispute with any payment provider? No

Have you sent a DM to the accused informing them of the Dispute? Yes

Has 48 hours passed since you have informed the Accused of the Dispute? Yes

What is the name of the accused? @onlyzagor

How did you make contact with the accused initially? Sent a DM (https://gyazo.com/1f823cf125e06730efe8accbc96d42f0)

Please describe the reason for this Dispute in detail.
I posted a WTB (Want to Buy) thread looking to purchase a verified SES account. Three users contacted me in response. One of them sent me a private message asking me to connect with them via Telegram.

I reached out to the provided Telegram contact, and we chatted extensively over a period of time. After building some trust, I was ready to proceed with the purchase. Initially, the seller was not willing to lower the price, so I continued looking for other providers.

Later, the same person suddenly agreed to sell me the SES account for $500, claiming they had one account available. I checked the account via anydesk, and everything appeared to be fine. After verifying, I sent the payment and saved screenshots of our chat as proof.

Immediately after I made the payment:

The seller disappeared

All Telegram chat history was deleted

I was blocked

Later, I was unblocked.

I also contacted the same user on BHW, but they claimed, "you contacted the wrong person" and denied any involvement. However, I searched carefully on Telegram using their exact username, and only one account appeared. the same one I spoke with and sent payment to.

I’ve attached a screenshot of their message and username for verification. The explanation they gave “you probably lost money to fake accounts pretending to be me” doesn't add up, as all signs point to it being the same person.

In conclusion, this person took the payment and scammed me, and is now denying responsibility.

Payment trx - https://www.oklink.com/tron/tx/604441ce66b7aaabdd69262e72b6ce202cb359f20542122a8eacc92f6f9f1baa

Do you feel you've done everything you can on your side to resolve this issue with the accused? Yes

What steps have you taken to try to resolve this issue with the accused? Be as detailed as possible.
I contacted the same person on BHW (where we originally connected). I explained the situation and asked for clarification. The person responded by claiming that I had contacted the wrong Telegram user and denied any involvement.

What kind of outcome are you hoping for from this Dispute?
Refund of $500

Please upload any photo, video, or document files that support your case or serve as evidence.


Please paste any URLs that point to evidence.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/direct-messages/amazon-ses-50k-acc-always-ready.30741797/#convMessage-35720806

Did you upload proof that a transaction took place? Yes

Did you upload proof of there being a problem? Yes

Is there any other information you would like to give about your dispute?


Yes, I have provided all evidence.
No, there is missing evidence but I've explained in the form. Yes

Information For The Accused
@onlyzagor, you have 24 hours to respond to this disputes thread. If you do not respond within 24 hours or we note that you're engaging in any other activities on the forum rather than dealing with this dispute, the decision will be made in favour of the dispute starter and you will be permanently banned from Black Hat World. In the event that you're permanently banned from the forum, you may send in a support ticket using our support channel only once you've refunded and/or provided what the plaintiff has requested.

If your responses to this dispute do not remain prompt, your account will be banned.

Information For The Accused & The Dispute Starter
Please remain professional as name calling, insults, griping, tu quoque, and ad hominem will not be tolerated. Should the dispute starter resort to this, the dispute will be forfeit; and if the accused resorts to this, the dispute will automatically be in the dispute starter's favour.

If the focus of this thread shifts from trying to resolve the dispute to simply wanting to see the other party banned, the dispute will automatically be ruled in favour of the other party.

The moderator mediating this dispute is simply trying to fair a resolution to this dispute. Any mod abuse or accusations (e.g., "you're biased", "you're protecting scammers", etc) directed toward the moderator will not be tolerated and may result in an infraction for mod abuse.

Information For Other Members
If anyone else has the same issue with the accused, you may respond so long as you supply evidence in the form of screenshots, videos, etc.

Please bear in mind Dispute Resolution section rule #4 before responding.

"If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread. Anyone caught doing so will receive an infraction and be reply banned from posting in the thread."

I understand 100% what this person’s real intention is. After a few days, they create fake evidence using people who send them private messages and then try to open a complaint and get something out of it. Since their account is new, they don’t care if they get banned they just change their IP and create a new account, then look for someone else in another industry. That’s their approach.

The Telegram handle “onlyzagor” is 100% mine, but making it look like you’re chatting with me or that I scammed you is extremely easy just use “Inspect Element” on Telegram Web, and you can create any kind of fake conversation you want, as if someone scammed you, sent you a payment, or didn’t deliver a service. I messaged this person on BHW, asking if they wanted to buy a SES account and provided my Telegram info, but they never responded and instead started sending me private messages accusing me of scamming them.

My friend, this isn’t a playground. I can’t even explain to you how low and pathetic it is to try to scam someone here, because you wouldn’t understand it’s in your character and upbringing to go after other people’s money and hard work. No matter what I write or explain to you here, tomorrow you’ll still be trying to scam others. But don’t forget: someone as desperate as you will end up in jail sooner or later, and your life will be full of hunger and misery. That never changes, my friend. But honestly, I didn’t expect such cheap evidence. Be a bit more professional and provide solid proof maybe then you’ll succeed.

The logic is very simple: the conversation shows August 1st, but this wallet received a payment 2 days ago. What do you think about someone trying to scam another person being so amateur as to overlook something like this? @BassTrackerBoats

onlyzagor said:

The logic is very simple: the conversation shows August 1st, but this wallet received a payment 2 days ago. What do you think about someone trying to scam another person being so amateur as to overlook something like this? @BassTrackerBoats
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i am trying to understand your logic

onlyzagor said:

The Telegram handle “onlyzagor” is 100% mine, but making it look like you’re chatting with me or that I scammed you is extremely easy just use “Inspect Element” on Telegram Web, and you can create any kind of fake conversation you want, as if someone scammed you, sent you a payment, or didn’t deliver a service. I messaged this person on BHW, asking if they wanted to buy a SES account and provided my Telegram info, but they never responded and instead started sending me private messages accusing me of scamming them.

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When i contacted you :

You didn’t even bother to ask how, when, or where I sent the payment or which TG account was used. That alone raises serious suspicion.

It looks like you're deliberately avoiding details because you are the one who scammed me on TG.

And honestly, why would a JR VIP member be sharing a TG handle through BHW PMs if not to mislead people?

onlyzagor said:

My friend, this isn’t a playground. I can’t even explain to you how low and pathetic it is to try to scam someone here, because you wouldn’t understand it’s in your character and upbringing to go after other people’s money and hard work. No matter what I write or explain to you here, tomorrow you’ll still be trying to scam others. But don’t forget: someone as desperate as you will end up in jail sooner or later, and your life will be full of hunger and misery. That never changes, my friend. But honestly, I didn’t expect such cheap evidence. Be a bit more professional and provide solid proof maybe then you’ll succeed.

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I understand you're upset beacsue a newbie made dispute, but throwing around insults and assumptions doesn't prove anything. If you believe I’ve done something wrong, feel free to report it with actual evidence instead of personal attacks.

I’ve provided what I can, and I’m open to resolving the issue fairly. But if you continue with baseless accusations and emotional outbursts, it just weakens your credibility.

Let’s keep things respectful and stick to the facts.

onlyzagor said:

I understand 100% what this person’s real intention is. After a few days, they create fake evidence using people who send them private messages and then try to open a complaint and get something out of it. Since their account is new, they don’t care if they get banned they just change their IP and create a new account, then look for someone else in another industry. That’s their approach.

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did i contacted you .. no. You sent me message with your telegram





Maybe you’ve scammed a lot of people or taken advantage of newbies before, but this time you got caught red-handed. You know very well how easy it is to scam people on Telegram, but now there's proof.

onlyzagor said:

Be a bit more professional and provide solid proof maybe then you’ll succeed.

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Next time I contact someone on Telegram through BHW, I’ll record the entire process from start to finish, maybe even hire someone to professionally document it

just to have solid evidence.

jayden67 said:

i am trying to understand your logic

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When i contacted you :

You didn’t even bother to ask how, when, or where I sent the payment or which TG account was used. That alone raises serious suspicion.

It looks like you're deliberately avoiding details because you are the one who scammed me on TG.

And honestly, why would a JR VIP member be sharing a TG handle through BHW PMs if not to mislead people?



I understand you're upset beacsue a newbie made dispute, but throwing around insults and assumptions doesn't prove anything. If you believe I’ve done something wrong, feel free to report it with actual evidence instead of personal attacks.

I’ve provided what I can, and I’m open to resolving the issue fairly. But if you continue with baseless accusations and emotional outbursts, it just weakens your credibility.

Let’s keep things respectful and stick to the facts.


did i contacted you .. no. You sent me message with your telegram

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Maybe you’ve scammed a lot of people or taken advantage of newbies before, but this time you got caught red-handed. You know very well how easy it is to scam people on Telegram, but now there's proof.


Next time I contact someone on Telegram through BHW, I’ll record the entire process from start to finish, maybe even hire someone to professionally document it

just to have solid evidence.

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You watch too many movies we’re not in a cinema, my friend. good luck

onlyzagor said:

You watch too many movies we’re not in a cinema, my friend. good luck

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That is not a response to what they posted.

What do you want me to say? It’s not even evidence it’s just a blank screenshot, clearly edited, with no video, no visuals, nothing. He says he wants to buy, I’m selling for $900, and the screenshot shows a $500 payment there’s no explanation for that. Ridiculous things can only be laughed at; there’s really nothing to respond to here because it’s all nonsense. He never contacted me before; there was never even such a conversation. I never scam anyone, my friend my monthly transaction volume is in the tens of thousands of dollars. If you’re trustworthy, you’ll make money; if you scam someone, that money will come right back out of you tomorrow. Don’t expect me to respond to this. The fact that this issue has dragged on this long is nonsense in itself.

Did this answer satisfy you? @BassTrackerBoats

onlyzagor said:

Don’t expect me to respond to this.

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I won't expect you to respond to this going forward.

The accused has been permanently banned from Black Hat World as they decided to not participate in this dispute thread.

The dispute thread will remain live and is now open to commentary as rule 4 is no longer enforced in this thread.

What's with the scams happening on Telegram lately? Can you retrospectively delete messages on Telegram?

I don't think you can do that on Signals or even Whatsapp.

Peter Ngo said:

What's with the scams happening on Telegram lately? Can you retrospectively delete messages on Telegram?

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Yes if you delete message from both ends its deleted from both sides, nothing left behind and this may be the reason. But currently i am seeing a lot of frozen accounts as well. So may be telegram going stricter on creating use and throw accounts.

can you get money back?

pretylor said:

can you get money back?

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No, but it's okay.
I was just surprised that when I posted a WTB with strict escrow requirements, I didn’t get a single response.

jayden67 said:

No, but it's okay.
I was just surprised that when I posted a WTB with strict escrow requirements, I didn’t get a single response.

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oh, sorry, you lost a lot of money, yes, strict requirements should be imposed on the seller

JessiPinkme said:

Yes if you delete message from both ends its deleted from both sides, nothing left behind and this may be the reason. But currently i am seeing a lot of frozen accounts as well. So may be telegram going stricter on creating use and throw accounts.

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You must always record your screen while interacting with the person.

Personally i don't use telegram even though people are always asking me for it.