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I've Got 99 Problems and Indexing Ain't One

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by lightningblitz, Jan 14, 2016.

  1. lightningblitz

    lightningblitz Elite Member

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    So June 2015 hit and ALL the indexers stopped working as well. We heard a LOT of 'theory' about how to index links. Case Studies, indexing services making claims that they could still index links, etc. I also see a lot of threads asking 'how do I index XYZ' which makes my head spin.

    The truth? I have not seen a single indexer has impressed me since June 2015. So that got me into my lab to figure things out.

    Here are some facts:

    1. No more 'instant indexing'
    2. Submit URL to Google still indexes links QUICKLY
    3. All traditional indexers no longer work as well
    4. You still pay the same for indexing
    5. Some links on the same platform can take different times to index
    6. Some links, which were hard to index before, are even more difficult to index now.

    Before I move forward, I did a LOT of split testing on indexing Profile Links. No traditional link indexer did any justice, not that any had a high success rate to begin with.

    Profile links did not index well before June hit, and were even worse after. But that was the basis for how I proceeded. I looked at what would index my Profile Links.

    1. Massive amount of Blog Comments
    2. Massive amount of Social Bookmarks
    3. Massive amount of Social Signals

    Do not ask me why, but if I blasted several thousand social signals, a page would index. Would SERPs improve? Not at all. But at least I would get it indexed. So from that point I moved backwards.

    After some testing on Profile Links post 2016 Index - Apocalypse I noticed that I could still get links to index. But as a 'quality vs quantity' approach I had issues sending 1,000s of blog comments to a 'good link' I made. So I found my limits of what would index a link. Spam still worked.

    So I decided to take a look at what could I do in the least amount to get my good links to index.

    Anyways, after some testing, here are the most successful ways I found to index links now (Feel free to add your own):

    - Moderate amount of blog comments on highly crawled blogs or websites (highly active blogs)
    - High Volume of Social Signals (Yes, for some reason this tends to work)
    - Massive amounts of spam as tier three
    - Press Releases
    - Putting your link on a highly crawled 'link farm'

    The surprising part of 'put your link on a link farm' was that I found it pretty easy to take a BUNCH of links, put them onto a Web 2.0 or PBN domain and submit it to Google. It got crawled and EVERYTHING indexed quickly. But boy, it sure was stupid to leave that kind of foot print, right?

    Well, that is where you need to be creative. Submitting one link to WMT is a sure way to take a life time to index all of your links and for the paranoid, you never want to submit a tier link into your money sites WMT. Sure, you can do a dummy account, but it all looks suspicious after a while and again, takes too long.

    So I starting to put up some dummy PBN sites on free hosting. I would put a bunch of links onto my page, submit to google, then remove the links after they get indexed.

    This was still super risky, so I started doing this on tier three only, and that did the trick fairly well.

    Remember my point of 'Some links on the same platform can take different times to index'? Well, that had me puzzled. As time went on, it became harder and harder to index SPAM contextual links.

    For example, if I had two identical sites with tier two of contextual links, one set using poorly spun content, and the other using fresh content, the fresh would index quicker. Even after I would add tier three and force it to index, the junk contextual links in tier two would take longer to index and due to this so did tier one.

    So far this is a lot of rambling, and things I found. But I will wrap a short thread up with exactly the combination of things I use now to get my links indexed:

    1. Low volume of cheap social signals
    2. Moderate amount of 'quality' blog comments
    3. Highly crawled Web 2.0 links with highly crawled, unique and indexed content (Hint: I use Tumblr - Image with new description will get indexed)

    *Quality means highly crawled domains

    That is what I use to index my tier one properties in a hurry. For my lower tier links this is not possible for things such as Parasites, so I:

    1. Take my submitted spam URLs and put them onto a dummy domain and submit it to google
    2. Fire up a tier two / three / four of 100% garbage to the tune of 10,000 + links

    This is exactly how I index my links now. Not an amazing share but I hope someone finds this useful.
     
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  2. VinceC

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    Still using Tier 3 ?
     
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  3. remon24

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    Yes social signals works but the best thing that works for me is expired web 2.0 mainly tumblr and blogspot blogs.
     
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  4. lightningblitz

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    Only as indexing links where I fire away. The only time I use tier three for SEO value is when I use 301 shorteners as a tier two to a Web 2.0 property.

    Aside from that, not at all. Blog comments and bookmarks sometimes even point to my money site.

    I get a lot of benefit out of aged tumblr accounts used as indexers. It is the reason why I have several hundred junk tumblrs sitting around, they will index anything.
     
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    the struggle when your newly created tumbler or blogspot don't index
     
  6. lightningblitz

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    Submit the tumblr to google. I need to do that with newly created tumblr.

    Then you can add a link pointing at a tier one property and it will get ranked in a jiffy.
     
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    ajithrocksca Senior Member

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    The power of tier 3 links is very limited now.. I find authority tumblrs and pinterest accounts very effective for indexing.
     
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  8. lightningblitz

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    Power? Minimal.

    Ability to index? Pretty high.

    Although Reddit, Tumblr and Pinterest are excellent tools to get something indexed I did not mention as I did not find a very easy way for me to do it. If you have a process to do it or bot they are great additions.
     
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    Wow that was a hell lot of info! I was always confused about indexing my tier 1s. I can figure that out from now.. Waiting for your next thread..
     
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    Great insights as always from you. As you rightly said, the tiered spamming do not work exactly as they used to back in early 2015. Time to test and try new tricks. Have tons of repurposed tumblrs sitting around. Will test this out.
     
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    Getting things indexed is not that hard, the problem is it is risky now. But planning ahead (Highly crawled Web 2.0s - for example) will get the job done.
     
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    comfortable to read your post.

    and some people say, add a Youtube video and get your xml plugin refresh will get your URL index quickly, no idea if this is true. But I surely get some URL indexed very quickly, less than hours for sure, if not the minutes.
     
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    Thank you terrycody, I will have to give that trick a try.
     
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    Any suggestions on a good place to get a low volume of social signals?
     
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    You can get a $5 blog comment blast on fiverr, much better then any index service.

    Google rekt them all.
     
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    I prefer the money site page to index links. If you have hundreds of money sites which do not do anything for you then you can use this method. I have at least 50+ which is not making any money but domains are registered for 10 years or so. Those sites do not have any rankings but have 10k plus pages altogether. Sites made in 2005 times when i was just into IM and starting out. Lucky i kept those sites. I add a few pages to one of the site and list out the links there. Everything is crawled and indexed in couple of days time, then i remove those pages from those sites. I mix this up regularly to ensure that i stay under radar. But this can be risky, but i believe google trust those old sites as they have been aged, not dropped, not much seo etc on them. So setting up some aged domains for this purpose is a good idea. I have tried everything else, nothing moves the crawlers to index the links.
     
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    The thing that sucks about indexing now is this: It used to be true that you could build a quality web2.0 (or whatever) with quality content, lots of pages, and you link in it and then simply WAIT. You didn't have to really do much of anything, just go about your normal SEO business and then that quality link would get indexed. But now that isn't true. You can build a nice 5 page web2.0 with hand written content and wait weeks and nothing happens. This sucks because I personally feel that spamming for indexing opens your up to more risk of penalty. It also costs more (not much but still something) and takes more time to implement than simply waiting did.

    The fact is this: Google probably can "see" any link your drop. This they don't index it then its because they CHOOSE not to
     
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    Yeah....

    You need to blast things or google frankly does not care to index them. We all know they are being crawled, but they are not indexing them.

    I try to aim for quality but as you said it is SUPER expensive and still no guarantee it will get indexed. Spam it is or your great tier one link is a waste. Ironic how google is driving us to spam now.
     
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    I use social signals for indexing and it's nice to see you putting it into action too. Looking forward to your upcoming threads. :)
     
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    Thanks for this I read all what you post and all comments. And I read more other threads about this topic. In conclusion I see a lot of people what say good things about social media... now need something what post to social media in same time, post a link and automate share on Google+ Facebook Tumblr Pinterest and more like this.