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I've done it all and it's not working

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by outsid3r, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. outsid3r

    outsid3r Newbie

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    I know this is basically my first post, but I've been lurking this forum for quite a while now. I've done all the "search forum" before posting. Convinced myself not to ask any silly questions that have been asked a million times, but at the point I'm at right now. I am REALLY stumped. I've built a bunch of websites that I just can't seem to get very much income. At most $2 a day throughout all of my sites. I've tried CPA, CPC, and Affiliates. I've tried different ad placements for better conversions of which didn't do much. As you can see I've taken a ton of action, but am not seeing results. If you don't mind I'll post my websites of which have nothing to do with selling people money making guides or anything. I'm mainly focused on small niches and gaming niches. If it's against the rules I'll be more then happy to remove my links.


    Just some things I have done for traffic. I've made Facebook fanpages, advertised through sig links on forums, yahoo answers, reddit, seo, much more! I truly need some real advice guys. I'm not looking for some get rich quick $500 a day idea. My goal is just to start off small and hopefully pay some bills then work from there. So again if I can get some real help from you guys I would GREATLY appreciate it.

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  2. outsid3r

    outsid3r Newbie

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    I'd basically like someone to take a look at my websites and see the rate it's going and possibly offer some advice. I'm truly working hard on this and taking a ton of action.
     
  3. outsid3r

    outsid3r Newbie

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    I can't PM as I don't have 15 posts yet.
     
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    sensitiveheart_4 Power Member

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    As you already have sites, Now is the time to start working on getting traffic

    SEO, social media, and all free means of traffic is your best bet

    Remember traffic = money, I suggest you to create a twitter and facebook account and build make it strong

    And than you can always flip your sites on flippa which will get you enough money to start bigger and better project
     
  5. MoosePunch

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    Send me your site as well.
     
  6. outsid3r

    outsid3r Newbie

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    I have done both with my websites and although I am building them up they build up slowly, but continue to not bring in any conversions. It's really hard to explain without being able to show you guys my websites. I'm truly looking for some real help here and again not trying to be like the normal "noobies" that are looking to make money quick, but at the same time I don't want to have a painting go viral when I die.
     
  7. chris1025

    chris1025 Regular Member

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    Stick to one Method, and specialize, first you need to be effective, then efficient.
     
  8. outsid3r

    outsid3r Newbie

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    There, I've posted an image of my websites. In the first post.
     
  9. outsid3r

    outsid3r Newbie

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    Come on guys. I'm asking for some genuine help. It's finally not a, "how do i make moniez 100 doller day" type question which seem to be the ones that get tons of replies.
     
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    Blackprizm BANNED BANNED

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    I think you've done them all . Well, read http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/125-blackhat-sucess-never-give-up.html.
     
  11. idealu

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    Maybe you are in a wrong niche ?

    Maybe some keywords that won't convert ?
     
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    Geezzz..... I didn't take time to go thru all them. But two of them are only a little over a month old. This stuff takes time.
     
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    The system messed up - double post
     
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    First do a keyword research in Semrush.com / Google Keyword tool ( exact matches). Start with less competitive kws. Even if you do your link building right you need to wait for at least 3 months for a new website to generate some income. For fast money you need social traffic.
     
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    i looked over borderline2tips content is to short not catching any atention thus no conversions. Title of the blog post I would move to the white space under it but thats just me..... so to conclude your content sales pitch whatever you want to call it needs to be replaced I will assume same case with other sites
     
  16. outsid3r

    outsid3r Newbie

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    So to sum up all of the replies is basically, Don't give up, start a new niche, use better keywords, wait longer... Right?
     
  17. outsid3r

    outsid3r Newbie

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    Guys I wanted to bump this back up as I really didn't get any help last time.
     
  18. BlueTurtle

    BlueTurtle BANNED BANNED

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    Well, what do you want?

    It's like someone with a brick and mortar business turning up to a business networking breakfast and saying "Help, my business isn't making money. I've taken action, what now?!"

    He'd be laughed out the building.

    You've created a handful of tiny sites, added to reddit, created a fb page, put your link in your sig and mentioned 'seo', but not any keywords/rankings. You've then messed about with some ad placements and then decided you've done it all, taken action so it's time to go and get someone else to tell you what to do.

    I'm sorry but that isn't how you run a business m'friend. If you want to be told what to do next go and get a job. Nothing wrong with working for someone else, not everyone is cut out to run their own business.

    If you're serious about running your own business then start getting up every day at 6am, starting work at 7am, take 15 mins for lunch and finish at 10pm. Do that 7 days a week. Keep a daily To-Do, weekly to-do and monthly to-do. Every evening transfer weekly tasks to daily ready for the next day. Every sunday night transfer some monthly tasks to weekly.

    Keep a journal of everything you're trying including your results so you have a detailed log of failures and don't repeat them.

    Spend 5 hours a day studying and 5-6 hours a day of productive work(writing, building sites, building products, real work, not reading)

    Study accounting and business. Find out how to run a real business and how to do your accounts. Learn how to create a business plan and make one.

    Study copywriting.

    Read through bhw and keep a 'methods + tips book'(pen + paper) -- Write down methods, have sections for various topics and write down useful information you find.

    Use a contact resource managers of some sort. I use a wiki for this purpose. Keep track of everyone you talk to. Write down their contact details, important information about them, logs of chats. Network with people, build contacts.

    Simple, but effective project management. Use your wiki for this. Keep track of your projects. Keep it simple.

    RUN A REAL BUSINESS.

    A handful of small web sites with a sig on a forum for traffic is not a business.

    Create an offline business offering services. There's countless threads on here about offline businesses. You can do almost anything for companies. You just need to be better at it than they are.

    Build communities, authority sites, membership sites. Online real estate. Real assets.

    Study more about social and use your copywriting/psychology/human behavior knowledge you'll learn from copywriting books to make them work. You can't just write some shitty article, bookmark it and expect it to go viral. Some things just do not work with social. Most things don't work well with social in fact. A gaming article is never going to go viral on reddit and a self ip site is just a waste of time.

    Buy advertising. Reinvest your offline profits and use your copywriting skills. Learn about media buys, ppc, ppv and every and any way to buy traffic. Test test test. If you're good at copywriting you'll do well with paid traffic. COpywriting/psychology/human behavior is KEY. 99.9% of marketers have zero clue about it.

    Invest in offline advertising. Radio, tv, newspapers, magazines. Go to the stores and look through all the magazines. Look for niches, see what sells and what they're interested in. Email the magazine's advertising department and ask for demographics and advertising prices. Create products, advertising online based on demographics then advertise in the magazine.

    Build email lists for your communities/products. Cross-sell stuff, push new products and maintain fresh/trustworthy lists.




    Is that enough help for you? Follow that and you'll be successful. Do you know how the successful people solve problems? We don't create threads or ask people for help. We test stuff and learn from failures. FAILURE IS YOUR TEACHER. If you're afraid of failure and get depressed when you fail then you will never be successful. Fear of failure is like fear of the road to success. If you can't walk on the road you can't get to your destination.
     
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  19. therage

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    Copyright sucks, nothing but boring articles to read. You do know that you need to actually have very fluent content to get people to click any ads on a gaming site? Amazingly simple to turn the gaming sites around, and as for the others didn't check. Also, gaming news sites don't do wonders with cpa or ppc if they are as bland and wrongly presented as yours. Would take to much of my time to actually turn your site around for free, so all I can offer you is a simple tip. Build up solid videos be it news videos from gaming conventions or fan related videos about your favorite games on YouTube or even another community site and you will start to get a following. Other than that, good luck and just so you know my main moneymaker is literally making games along with various other niches I have gotten into.
     
  20. Danny1111

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    I didn't see your Sites - but seems from what I read in the thread - you want to work for a month and be making money pretty quickly.

    That's the flaw with IM - Adsense CPA Amazon all take time when you just make a website and rely on organic rankings and a sprinkling of Social Traffic - its just not possible to succeed quickly this way.

    I would suggest you get into content locking - generate cash quickly - via twitter/facebook/youtube/article submission/pr submission and must have content.

    Then at the same time work more slowly on your longer term sites and invest some of the profits into it from the other activity.

    If you don't trust either of those methods then that leaves you reselling Fiverr Gigs at a higher price or selling Seo or Social Media Services.

    Anyway that is the blueprint - whether you choose to take action is up to you.