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is web design a good career choice?

Discussion in 'Web Design' started by star293, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. star293

    star293 Registered Member

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    hello guys :) so I am a sophomore (2nd year) at my college and I was wondering if web design is a good career choice to get into. I am asking this because i have to choose my major at my college next month and I am deciding whether i should get a degree in design or business..

    What is the average salary like when you work under a medium size company in US?

    I would really appreciate if you give me any advice on this..

    Thanks in advance! :)
     
  2. jstover77

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    If you are good at it you can do very well. Why work for a company, when you can work for yourself? You can make much more by doing it for yourself.

    Fact is, designers are a dime a dozen, so you have to distinguish yourself from the crowd. You do this by understanding the nuances of web design such as: knowing SEO (on page mostly), functionality, conversion tracking, etc etc.. If you become well rounded and you create good designs, you can make well over $100K per year.
     
  3. switch_2012

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    Hi mate,

    It is a very good area if you are really talented. I was a web designer before, competition was really high (big companies offer services nxt to nothing). Then i went into email marketing..

    Either way, you will enojoy IM once when you know a bit about design, coding..

    Regards,
     
  4. kirkonpolttaja

    kirkonpolttaja Senior Member

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    become web designer :) i get 500€ a pop for simple design... sick isnt it? ;) i asked like 40€ but they said that they are willing to pay 500€ lmao... took only 15min to do with my tools :)
     
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    It depends on the web designer, i work as a designer for about 6 months and now i make from $2000 to $3000 a month. its good money if you are a student isn't it ;)
     
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    It is if you know what you're doing and you choose the right partner (coding+management). Choose wrong, you'll get maybe $2k/month. Choose right, you could be doing $10k+ a month.

    Going with a business degree would pretty much force you into doing a 9-5 job and be pretty boring.



    Go design if you think you're unique. Go business if you're not unique.
     
  7. benzy

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    web design is a great career choice despite the competition as there will always be consistant demand for these skills whether you work for yourself or for another company...although webdesign is probably something you can learn independantly through reading or through short courses..

    However do not underestimate the importance of having a business degree which will give you a better general education and perhaps make you more employable or give you certain skills which you may find useful when starting a business..
     
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    I would have to disagree with that. Getting a business degree will give you more options and the education for running your own business. If you can't sell then go with the business degree and learn to run a business and then minor in web design. A lot of that can be self taught.

    Don't put your self in a corner, if it turns out that you hate web design then you need something to fall back to.
     
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    You need to diversify, especially with 2012 upon us!

    Being well versed in proper SEO techniques along with PPC/SEM Marketing, Social Media & video.

    The web landscape is always changing and 2012 will bring together SEO+Video+Social media as a juggernaut to be reckoned with, if you get get ahead of the curve and ride this first wave you can do well.

    Analytics/Data Mining is another field that's booming now my brother's company cleared 750k+ last year.

    so with all that said, ya you can make good money in web design, especially if you find an untapped niche where you can command high dollar. I started out building my portfolio with non-profits, then moved onto small biz @ $250 a pop for landing page sites now I'm doing $2-5k a pop sites, even landed a local .gov site a few months back
    build that portfolio & network - good luck to ya
     
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    doubt they will teach you anything that will get you building good websites in school. see if they teach anything to do with wordpress/ecommerce, or graphic design/LPs dsign, sales writing, etc. have fun in college take some business course and chill, teach yourself on the side
     
  11. mpulse

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    It is good but its hell sometimes cause you have to sorta work around the clock..
    You have a few areas to deal with that nobody mentioned.
    This is if you plan to work for yourself and not a company

    1) You make your business. Meaning you have to get your own clients on your own time. And fight sometimes tooth and nail to win them from another freelance guy or designer company

    2) you handle your own customer service. Customers can be retarted and some down right stupid. You have to take in consideration how stupid they may be. In the end delaying their project and costing you $ and time

    3) you have to cover your ass for charge backs and other unforeseen things..

    4) your designs must be on point

    5) every client is different so you have to account for things people want. If they ask you to do something and you cant do it.. alot of times you will loose your potential client

    that's just a couple. but web design is profitable.. but you have to know what your talking about and dont take jobs too big and screw yourself...

    hope this helps you some
     
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    You have to be good at it, but if you're into working long hours and can handle that, you should do fine. It'll probably be tough at first, but once you get the hang of things, it should flow quite well.

    Good luck!
     
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    I wonder if sometimes we're shooting too low. How about this, learn web design with the goal of running a company where the bulk of the work is done by other designers (aka 'outsourcing'). Either that, or just sell Weebly sites to business that want a static site, then outsource the changes to others. There's a great thread on this topic. In other words, learn to think like a businessperson (note the gender neutrality!) about web design.
    My advice, get a business degree or something that has traction...you may not want to be making websites when you're 43 and have a spouse and two kids. More importantly, get some connections and make an effort to stay in touch with them...listen to what your profs are (hopefully) telling you about networking.
    Fair disclosure, I've got an undergrad degree and an MBA in Finance, so I'm a bit biased. Not to be smug, and I'm aware of the exceptions to the rule, but take a guess which group of my friends drive Mercedes, have nice homes, travel and shop in Europe: the web designers or the investment bankers? ;)
     
  14. mpulse

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    well said!
     
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    i think it's a good are to move man, good luck ;)
     
  16. kokoloko75

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    There are "web designers" and "web designers"...

    Beny
     
  17. meatro

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    No.

    I've been designing websites for almost 15 years and the field as a career choice has gone downhill for me ever since the beginning. The only reason I haven't completely scrapped my knowledge on the topic is passion, I love designing websites more than almost anything.

    However, I've watched it go down the toilet for a long, long time. The reason that I chose not to study design in college was pretty simple. First of all, I was seeing MySpace come into popularity and all those teenager's websites that gave away free profile designs. Those MySpace profiles were actual HTML/CSS.. It was legit design that these kids were doing and as soon as they figured that out, it's over for design.

    It's only gotten closer and closer to that. Over the past 10 years, the price of website design has gone down considerably! Especially for me; I live in the Mid-West and nobody here recognizes the value of a well designed website.. Here are some actual quotes I've gotten from potential clients:

    - "This isn't California, you're not going to get those prices out here. I'll pay you $9/hour to start and after 30 days, we'll see about $10."
    - "My nephew said he would do it for $150. Can you match this?"

    Needless to say, I walked out of both of those conversations at those points. The days of snatching up $3-5,000 for a website are just about dead, unless it's a large business that understands the importance of a dynamic online presence, but you'll usually be apart of a team on those or they're handled in house.

    Even offering websites for sub-$500 is tough, like I said, most clients don't actually understand the importance of a good site. So your $500 offer is overlooked for this $350 one, but even that guy is going to have to do some fast talking to beat out the $250 offer. It's nothing less than ridiculous and everything on TV and in people's minds about the field are playing against you.. I've seen it already in this thread.. "Designers are a dime a dozen."

    This is completely false and misleading, just like those commercials on TV of "come here and build your own site for free! Why pay somebody?" First of all, like I said, I've spent nearly 15 years PERFECTING my craft. I can expertly manage multiple platforms and I can build CUSTOM templates for them as well. All the way from a blank PhotoShop file to a working theme.

    THIS IS NOT A DIME A DOZEN!! Most "designers" understand this:
    WP-Admin -> Themes -> Add New -> Upload.

    That is ALL! However, good luck getting people to understand this.

    Of course, it's all about how you manage your business (so business would by my suggested field), if you have some unique approaches to the operations of YOUR design business, then you have a chance. I've seen a couple of good ones.

    1.) Design crappy static sites using free templates. The time takes less than 30 minutes.. Go to an outdated local business' website, place their content in a nice free template and tell them you'll sell them this website for $XXX.

    2.) Mix SEO into it. If you can get your head around the fact that SEO is basically just a set of instructions of how Google wants you to design your website (which, no offense, most of these new turds can't, so we *good* designers have a very, very strong advantage!).. Then you can offer BETTER services than your competition.

    At this point in the world, it's all about non-specialization. If you can take care of all of their online needs in one place, you have a good chance. However, just know that the competition is FIERCE in the design field. Design has gotten retardedly easy over the past few years and it only points to getting easier.

    We're very near the point where people CAN do like on the commercials.. "Business name, logo... a little about us.. Done!"

    So if you're going to get into it.. Do it NOW. Establish your client base NOW. You quite honestly DO NOT have 3-4 years to sit around on this. In 4 years, I don't even want to know how simple it's going to be to take a site from concept to launch. At this point in time, it takes a good designer about 1 day in WordPress, maybe 3-4 in Joomla. A couple hours for static HTML.

    GL out there and stick to the cities. These rural fuckers think the only things worth money are John Deere tractors and 82 Camaros with no engine/trans.
     
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    That 's to your advantage really. Sell ads - not sites. People know the value of advertisement and pay. You don't have to explain to them why they should advertise in general.

    They do use facebook in the rural areas, no? Make fan pages for the stuff that 's hot locally. Get fans. Lots of them. Link them to the awesome niche site you created. Sell ad space. Sell newsletter ad space. Repeat with the next local hot niche. Move to the beach house 6 months a year.
     
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    Hm, that's a pretty good idea. I've thought about what I could do online locally to make some bucks.. A business directory was one thing I thought of.. There's a couple of them around here, but my favorite thing would be to bank on the travel industry.

    We have some nearby tourist spots, a brand new airport (that barely ranks for its own name) and lots and lots of attractions like live shows.

    I've thought about just telling them all, screw you.. Ranking for the airport, ranking for tickets, ranking for travel/reservations and then doing CPA, advertisements or flat out selling the website. :)

    Thanks.
     
  20. Oalddesign

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    There is a lot of web designer those day so it is a bit hard to find a job in there from where i am, but it is always nice to know that and you can work with that as side job and make a bit more money.
    so it is a useful thing but you can learn design by yourself so it will probably be a better idea to choose other career