Is this Creepy or What?

I can see how some would think its creepy and I agree with KF that he seemed comfortable with doing it as a professional and he would do the best job. I just have a problem with a father encouraging this type of breast augmentation and nose job for his daughter.

At least he is not a gynecologist though am I right. :)
 
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I thought this was old news? I've heard this somewhere before...
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
Could be but it was in today's NY Daily news... I usually read that on a daily basis.
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I've just found something dated back to Nov 28/29 2011:

Code: 
http://www.andersoncooper.com/episodes/dad-gives-daughter-plastic-surgery-bullying-psa-anderson-works-at-boston-market/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wma0oR3gex0

I'm pretty sure I've seen/heard of this before November from a more reliable news source but I can't seem to find it. Maybe it was something similar...
 
2 words perv vert.

@Kickflip, do you post in threads just to entice arguments ?

Not a personal attack at all, just a question. Some people just like to debate to add substance to conversations. Who knows.
 
tymillz said:
2 words perv vert.

@Kickflip, do you post in threads just to entice arguments ?

Not a personal attack at all, just a question. Some people just like to debate to add substance to conversations. Who knows.
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I like to get peoples real thoughts on things, and I like to tell my thoughts how I see the world. Do I see the world differently then most people on blackhatworld? Yes, I think that is probably clear, or at least I see it differently then most people who speak up.

It really isn't "arguing" that I enjoy. I enjoy bringing peoples TRUE opinions and thoughts out. 99% of threads that are created are made by people hoping to have their egos stroked and have everyone agree with them and thank them blindly. I don't see the point in that. If I don't agree with something, I think it would be wrong of me not to state my true feelings, because it deprives people of the opportunity to open their minds to a different way of thinking.

Especially with this being such a multicultural forum, a lot of opinions go unsaid because people are afraid to state them due to not being able to find words to express themselves, and out of fear of being "attacked" and not being able to defend themselves how they truly want. Forums tend to have such a gang mentality, where people will look for the strongest (highest rep/highest ranked) person and join up with them to attack someone who is weaker to try to make themselves look good.

Well if everyone in the forum suddenly decided to say that dog food tastes like heaven, I am going to march right in there and tell them they are all crazy because it tastes like dog food. Gang up on me if you like, I can take it, and I know the truth in my mind, and I try to stick to real opinions based on my person experiences only, not something that I believe without actual experience.

I understand their have been stories of doctors taking advantage of women while they are under sedation, but the majority of doctors are legitimate and the sexual thrill of seeing tits for a plastic surgeon is almost entirely gone from the start, add in the fact its his daughter, and he is truly seeing it as a "gift" he can give her, and wants to make sure everything is done correctly and safely.
 
Hi,

First of all God created each in every single one of us in a certain way.So, who gives you the right to change God's creation? + this is really creepy and also fake, and i feel so sorry for the wemon around the world who do such things to their bodies. and true men should not consider beeing with women like this. no matter how pretty they seem to be. bec i rather marry a self confidante woman then a woman with fake breasts.
P.S: Sorry for my hatred comment, but it was clear what has to be said, since most of you couldn't say it.
 
THEPROGAMER said:
Hi,

First of all God created each in every single one of us in a certain way.So, who gives you the right to change God's creation? + this is really creepy and also fake, and i feel so sorry for the wemon around the world who do such things to their bodies. and true men should not consider beeing with women like this. no matter how pretty they seem to be. bec i rather marry a self confidante woman then a woman with fake breasts.
P.S: Sorry for my hatred comment, but it was clear what has to be said, since most of you couldn't say it.
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God gave plastic surgeons the brain power to develop ways to change people's body to look better.:D
 
Kickflip said:
So are you saying that those women you know have never worn a bit of makeup, never had their ears pierced, never had any tattoos etc? Since they know how beautiful they are on the inside, surely they would never do anything like those examples I just gave right? In your opinion, anyone who ever wears a drop of makeup probably does it because they hate who they are and feel ugly on the inside and have nobody who loves them enough to make them feel beautiful.

That 2 cents doesn't make sense to me.
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Actually, you're right. My wife wont go out in public without putting on makeup because she feels "ugly". I for one think she is quite beautiful without it, but its what she feels. So yes, I would dare to argue anyone who modifies their appearance has some sort of insecurity. And women that drop thousand and thousands of dollars and put their life at risk,(and I know its not a big risk, but still a risk) to permanently modify their appearance probably has deeper insecurities then the woman who occasionally puts on makeup.

And there are women who do go without makeup/tatoos/piercings because they are truly comfortable with who they are. Very rare though.

And a side note. I see nothing wrong with plastic surgery, and it certainly has its place. All I was trying to state was that women who undergo plastic surgery have some sort of insecurity, and are not truly happy with themselves. And if getting a boob job will do that for them, then so be it. I'm a boob man myself and if my wife wants a boob job later on down the road to make herself feel better, there wont be any arguments with me :D
 
pkalico said:
Actually, you're right. My wife wont go out in public without putting on makeup because she feels "ugly". I for one think she is quite beautiful without it, but its what she feels. So yes, I would dare to argue anyone who modifies their appearance has some sort of insecurity. And women that drop thousand and thousands of dollars and put their life at risk,(and I know its not a big risk, but still a risk) to permanently modify their appearance probably has deeper insecurities then the woman who occasionally puts on makeup.

And there are women who do go without makeup/tatoos/piercings because they are truly comfortable with who they are. Very rare though.
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Why does everything have to be about insecurities or feeling ugly or inadequate? Sometimes we do certain things in life for other reasons which you are not seeing, because you are looking at the world in black & white.

I have hair on my head that I like to style with a little gel and wax because my friends asked me to, not because I personally care what it looks like. I prefer my head shaved, but my friends asked me to grow it out a bit, and style it. So I did. I want my friends to feel comfortable around me.

I suck in my gut when I am meeting certain people, not because I want to impress them or because I worry about what I look like, I am very comfortable with my little tummy poking out, but because I don't want to embarrass the people I am with, because they always comment on my tummy.

I feel very comfortable in my own skin, but I would still get my teeth whitened, and work out more, and get my eyebrows waxed and wear make-up etc if it meant that my friends would feel more comfortable around me, or it meant I could get further in my career etc.

Why do you wear pants when you leave the house? Because you are embarrassed by your genitals or because society requires it?
 
Kickflip said:
Why does everything have to be about insecurities or feeling ugly or inadequate? Sometimes we do certain things in life for other reasons which you are not seeing, because you are looking at the world in black & white.

I have hair on my head that I like to style with a little gel and wax because my friends asked me to, not because I personally care what it looks like. I prefer my head shaved, but my friends asked me to grow it out a bit, and style it. So I did. I want my friends to feel comfortable around me.

I suck in my gut when I am meeting certain people, not because I want to impress them or because I worry about what I look like, I am very comfortable with my little tummy poking out, but because I don't want to embarrass the people I am with, because they always comment on my tummy.

I feel very comfortable in my own skin, but I would still get my teeth whitened, and work out more, and get my eyebrows waxed and wear make-up etc if it meant that my friends would feel more comfortable around me, or it meant I could get further in my career etc.

Why do you wear pants when you leave the house? Because you are embarrassed by your genitals or because society requires it?
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There are certain situations where pleasing others could be a reason to change your appearance. But back to the OP, what reasons other then a horrible self worth would a 18 year old get a boob job? And it may not even be her fault, the world she grew up in and around probably expects girls/women to get boob jobs. So when she doesnt have a new pair, it makes her feel insecure. I have a hard time believing she did this to please others or make others happy.
 
pkalico said:
There are certain situations where pleasing others could be a reason to change your appearance. But back to the OP, what reasons other then a horrible self worth would a 18 year old get a boob job? And it may not even be her fault, the world she grew up in and around probably expects girls/women to get boob jobs. So when she doesnt have a new pair, it makes her feel insecure. I have a hard time believing she did this to please others or make others happy.
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Maybe she was asked to get the breasts by her employer and she really enjoys her job. Maybe her boyfriend asked her to get them because he would be happier with them. Why are you so bent on making everyone believe this girl hated herself? Why cant you admit that you really have no idea the reason, and you have absolutely no evidence at all to backup your claim that she probably has/had low self esteem?
 
Kickflip said:
Maybe she was asked to get the breasts by her employer and she really enjoys her job. Maybe her boyfriend asked her to get them because he would be happier with them. Why are you so bent on making everyone believe this girl hated herself? Why cant you admit that you really have no idea the reason, and you have absolutely no evidence at all to backup your claim that she probably has/had low self esteem?
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Just like you have no evidence she did it for the reasons you listed. And I never said she hates herself, just some sort of self esteem issues. We could go back and forth arguing her reasons. I guess my logic on this matter is different then your logic. In my mind, a woman who has no self esteem issues would tell her boyfriend to go to hell if he told her he didnt like her boobs, and wouldnt be working at a job that would request a boob job.
 
pkalico said:
Just like you have no evidence she did it for the reasons you listed. And I never said she hates herself, just some sort of self esteem issues. We could go back and forth arguing her reasons. I guess my logic on this matter is different then your logic. In my mind, a woman who has no self esteem issues would tell her boyfriend to go to hell if he told her he didnt like her boobs, and wouldnt be working at a job that would request a boob job.
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The difference between my logic and your logic is that your logic is based on trying to make her look bad and basically insult her calling her weak minded with self esteem issues. I am telling you right now, this is a fact that you can't dispute and has nothing to do with reasoning or logic, and is only based on fact, not everyone who wants to please their boyfriend or works for a pervy boss has low self esteem.

If you are a model or actress, you usually can further your career extremely fast by getting breast implants. Your manager will usually request you get them if you are below a b-cup. Do all models and actresses have low self esteem in your opinion? If not, then your original opinion is no longer your real opinion.

If a woman is in love with a guy, and he does EVERYTHING perfect, and his only request is that the woman get breast implants, you think she should tell him to piss off? Why shouldn't she want to make her man happy? Breasts aren't just nice to look at, but also come into play in adult situations. Breast size DOES have matter for certain acts which people may like to perform. Once again, it just isn't making sense to me.

Your posts are very frustrating.

If someone offers to give you $500,000 no strings attached, would you turn them down because you have high self esteem? If someone offers you $500,000 if you get breast implants, would you turn them down ONLY due to your high self esteem?

I just dont even know how else to explain it or what to say at this point. I would get breast implants right now if someone told me they would pay me $100,000. Now that obviously has nothing to do with low self esteem, because I am not a transvestite or anything. It has to do with taking the easy route. Why NOT take the easy route in life if I am not hurting anyone else?

I could get the breasts removed after a certain amount of time, donate some money to charity, and get a nice legitimate online business going hard and be set to go. Where do you see self esteem being any part of that scenario?
 
Kickflip said:
The difference between my logic and your logic is that your logic is based on trying to make her look bad and basically insult her calling her weak minded with self esteem issues. I am telling you right now, this is a fact that you can't dispute and has nothing to do with reasoning or logic, and is only based on fact, not everyone who wants to please their boyfriend or works for a pervy boss has low self esteem.

If you are a model or actress, you usually can further your career extremely fast by getting breast implants. Your manager will usually request you get them if you are below a b-cup. Do all models and actresses have low self esteem in your opinion? If not, then your original opinion is no longer your real opinion.

If a woman is in love with a guy, and he does EVERYTHING perfect, and his only request is that the woman get breast implants, you think she should tell him to piss off? Why shouldn't she want to make her man happy? Breasts aren't just nice to look at, but also come into play in adult situations. Breast size DOES have matter for certain acts which people may like to perform. Once again, it just isn't making sense to me.

Your posts are very frustrating.

If someone offers to give you $500,000 no strings attached, would you turn them down because you have high self esteem? If someone offers you $500,000 if you get breast implants, would you turn them down ONLY due to your high self esteem?

I just dont even know how else to explain it or what to say at this point. I would get breast implants right now if someone told me they would pay me $100,000. Now that obviously has nothing to do with low self esteem, because I am not a transvestite or anything. It has to do with taking the easy route. Why NOT take the easy route in life if I am not hurting anyone else?

I could get the breasts removed after a certain amount of time, donate some money to charity, and get a nice legitimate online business going hard and be set to go. Where do you see self esteem being any part of that scenario?
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"this is a fact that you can't dispute and has nothing to do with reasoning or logic, and is only based on fact, not everyone who wants to please their boyfriend or works for a pervy boss has low self esteem." - Prove it.

The problem is you can't, just like I can't prove they do have low self esteem. When we start talking about psychology and why people do what they do, there are no 'facts'. There is educated guesses, and I imagine there are psychologists that would argue both sides. And yes, I do believe that anyone who makes a living off their looks have self esteem issues. Why else would anyone show off their looks? To me, people who do make a living off their looks are trying to prove to others, or themselves, that they arent ugly.

And I never said she was weak minded. Self esteem issues yes. I don't think I know 1 person who doesnt have some sort of issues with self esteem. That doesnt make them weak minded, just human. I never said that people who get plastic surgery are aweful human beings, and if I implied that I wasnt trying to. My main argument from the very beginning was agreeing that people who get plastic surgery have a hard time seeing their inner beauty.

And someone who has high self esteem, meaning they love themselves JUST the way they are, would be insulted to take money to change their appearance, even just temporarily. When a person takes pride in something in their life, there isnt enough money in the world to get them to change. So when someone really loves themselves and takes pride in their looks, high self esteem, they would not change for all the tea in china.
 
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